News 'Beyond Big Thunder Mountain' Blue Sky concept revealed for Magic Kingdom

James Alucobond

Well-Known Member
I agree, however I do think any "blue sky" going forward will actually happen, but would be more these plans are exact, but it's gonna look something like this and have these IP's instead of the last few years of blue sky which was how upset would you be if this is built and don't worry none of this is probably gonna happen anyway.

My bets are Moana in Adventureland, Coco as the first phase of BBTM, and IP confirmation/development of Villains and whatever else happens.
If it’s at all certain, they won’t call it blue sky. By their very nature, blue sky plans are meant to be a bit amorphous.
Yeah but Moana isn’t going to go in the BBTM area (it’s supposed to be in Adventureland)
Didn’t mean to imply it was.
 

lazyboy97o

Well-Known Member
Not at Universal .. Epic Universe was on point but they knew what they were going to build and not wondering around "what if" word salad! They were romaine ready for a long time coming with that available parcel of land!
This is just nowhere close to true. There was a bunch of wondering “What if?” with Epic Universe. Entire lands were considered and dropped. Drastic revisions completely changed the lands and attractions that are going to open next year.
 

rd805

Well-Known Member
This is just nowhere close to true. There was a bunch of wondering “What if?” with Epic Universe. Entire lands were considered and dropped. Drastic revisions completely changed the lands and attractions that are going to open next year.
Like what?! Besides postponed expansions (which would delay the opening of the park), everything that has been reported for the last 5-8 years is PRETTY darn accurate.
 

lazyboy97o

Well-Known Member
Like what?! Besides postponed expansions (which would delay the opening of the park), everything that has been reported for the last 5-8 years is PRETTY darn accurate.
That should tell you how long these projects actually take even at Universal.

Waterworld was considered. Entirely indoor lands were considered. Building out the existing parks and delaying the new park was considered. Universal even received building permits for three attractions that are not being built, one of which was then “What if-ed” for Universal Studios Florida.

The difference is that Universal didn't discuss the What Ifs in a big public presentation.
That doesn’t mean it didn’t happen. It’s just the nonsense of people who claim to want to know what is being considered being big mad when they get what they say they want.
 

eddie104

Well-Known Member
That should tell you how long these projects actually take even at Universal.

Waterworld was considered. Entirely indoor lands were considered. Building out the existing parks and delaying the new park was considered. Universal even received building permits for three attractions that are not being built, one of which was then “What if-ed” for Universal Studios Florida.


That doesn’t mean it didn’t happen. It’s just the nonsense of people who claim to want to know what is being considered being big mad when they get what they say they want.
Gosh every time I read your posts it’s like a breath of fresh air.
 

Bocabear

Well-Known Member
This is just nowhere close to true. There was a bunch of wondering “What if?” with Epic Universe. Entire lands were considered and dropped. Drastic revisions completely changed the lands and attractions that are going to open next year.
Difference is Universal did not have a huge marketing and Fan based event to start talking up the new lands and attractions....and then cut them after constructin started... They were pretty quiet about everything they were doing ...
 

lazyboy97o

Well-Known Member
Difference is Universal did not have a huge marketing and Fan based event to start talking up the new lands and attractions....and then cut them after constructin started... They were pretty quiet about everything they were doing ...
And again, this is nonsense hypocrisy from people who have gone out of their way to be someplace dedicated to that sort of information. You’ve been begging Wonka to let you in and now your mad that he did.
 

Bocabear

Well-Known Member
And again, this is nonsense hypocrisy from people who have gone out of their way to be someplace dedicated to that sort of information. You’ve been begging Wonka to let you in and now your mad that he did.
It wasn't just realeased to the D23 members...It was widely talked about by Disney, etc. If it gets to the point where they are going to release the info to the Fan community, they should at least have a more concrete idea if they will build it or not... It is not like someone walked through Willy Wonka's factory and saw something on someone's desk about the Everlasting gobstopper and that person told everyone... Willy Wonka created a press release about the Everlasting gobstopper and then decided not to make it.....
 

Rhinocerous

Premium Member
It wasn't just realeased to the D23 members...It was widely talked about by Disney, etc. If it gets to the point where they are going to release the info to the Fan community, they should at least have a more concrete idea if they will build it or not... It is not like someone walked through Willy Wonka's factory and saw something on someone's desk about the Everlasting gobstopper and that person told everyone... Willy Wonka created a press release about the Everlasting gobstopper and then decided not to make it.....
Oompa-loompa-doompety-doo
I've got a plan for lying to you...
 

lazyboy97o

Well-Known Member
It wasn't just realeased to the D23 members...It was widely talked about by Disney, etc. If it gets to the point where they are going to release the info to the Fan community, they should at least have a more concrete idea if they will build it or not... It is not like someone walked through Willy Wonka's factory and saw something on someone's desk about the Everlasting gobstopper and that person told everyone... Willy Wonka created a press release about the Everlasting gobstopper and then decided not to make it.....
They released it to a fan community that spends hours a day trying to suss out what they are working on. A fan community that knows about dozens of projects that never were but were shared, going back decades. Big Thunder Mountain Railroad sits on the site of one such project.
 

Bocabear

Well-Known Member
They released it to a fan community that spends hours a day trying to suss out what they are working on. A fan community that knows about dozens of projects that never were but were shared, going back decades. Big Thunder Mountain Railroad sits on the site of one such project.
It also showed up on news feeds...
 

James Alucobond

Well-Known Member
iT WaS jUSt Fan COmMuNItiES….

Yes, members of the press attending the conference will write about it. Yes, Disney wants people to know about the announcements so that D23 is appealing and continues to sell out. People are paying for a look behind the curtain, and the inevitable result of that is that the information then becomes widely available.

If Universal Creative were an entity with as much marketable cultural cachet as Imagineering, they might monetize their creative process as well, but that’s also kind of irrelevant. The point being made is that the processes are not all that different; it’s just that more of the process has been exposed in one case, at the behest of an eager segment of the public.
 

lazyboy97o

Well-Known Member
It also showed up on news feeds...

iT WaS jUSt Fan COmMuNItiES….

So what? It’s not John Q. Public that’s here kvetching over something that Disney has done for decades. Disney sold postcards with concept art for Thunder Mesa on it before Walt Disney World even opened. The first Disneyland fun map includes a version of New Orleans Square that was never built with a wax museum and thieve’s market, Edison Square and Liberty Street, which was even advertised in the park on a giant wall in the same spot that also advertised the never built International Street.
 
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MisterPenguin

President of Animal Kingdom
Premium Member
They released it to a fan community that spends hours a day trying to suss out what they are working on. A fan community that knows about dozens of projects that never were but were shared, going back decades. Big Thunder Mountain Railroad sits on the site of one such project.
A fan community, who, when they *don't* get info about things in the works:
  • accuses Disney of having no plans and doing nothing
  • accuses Disney of having bad advertising skills and plans
  • accuses Disney of disrespecting their fans
  • accuses Disney of budget cutting things that were never budgeted to begin with
  • accuses Disney of incompetency by having problems getting things done as the reason for not filling us in on a project's status
  • accuses Disney of being evil incarnate (the anti-everything-Disney faction using this as a canard)
 

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