News 'Beyond Big Thunder Mountain' Blue Sky concept revealed for Magic Kingdom

Disgruntled Walt

Disgruntled Walt

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Here's the thing: Disney already broke the "Magic Kingdom" mold when they built Galaxy's Edge in Disneyland, or arguably even when they built Toontown. Anything they put behind Big Thunder has the potential to stick out like a sore thumb. The "good" thing about the Coco idea is that it could kind of fit into a Mexican quarter of Frontierland, so it wouldn't just be a Coco-land. Technically, they could put Radiator Springs in behind Big Thunder, with a transition element. However, it could only be as a new land, and I wouldn't like that. AND I think it's rather shortsighted when DHS could really use something like that (and I mean the full Radiator Springs, with more than just the E-Ticket). That said, I want something new for DHS, not just a rehash of Radiator Springs.
 
BrianLo

BrianLo

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Delta-7 said:
not even sure why this whole RSR idea is suddenly having a surge of confidence as of yesterday when the one source who said it was possible has a questionable track record.
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There's no surge of confidence. There's just seemingly a new poster wishfully hoping.

RSR is not in consideration for Magic Kingdom. I don't even think it's in consideration for WDW at all, though that mystery DHS project seems unnamed.

It's also a bit of a franchise in decline. I think it holds significant weight and nostalgia for Gen Z, but I don't think Gen Alpha really pays attention to it much. It's not a bad franchise and it's a delightful land in DCA, but it is well over a decade old.

I think the reason that is has to do with getting a bit left behind. Disney pivoted from princesses and cars and toy story when Marvel and Star Wars entered the mix. Cars feels like it was punted for Spiderman.
 
BrianLo

BrianLo

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TheRealSkull said:
Those complaints were being vocalized not for the reasons of cloning, but rather because people did not want Star Wars intruding upon Walt's original park.
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I’m not sure if you had a pseudonym, but the complaints were being lodged against DHS, which was the park receiving a clone.

I had many criticisms in the Disneyland facing board that they were not actually designing something for DHS, but using a weird layout meant to wrap around the rivers of America with giant empty berms that made no sense. And that Galaxies edge was 2 e tickets only, which didn’t really service the needs of DHS’a lack of variety of attractions very well.

But at least they were co developed projects and didn’t come 15-20 years late
 
yensidtlaw1969

yensidtlaw1969

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TheRealSkull said:
That would even make for a better transition than from the Tea Cups into Tomorrowland, and yet for some reason, no one seems to complain about that.
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That’s actually a pretty popular complaint on these boards. It’s pretty frequently regarded as the worst thematic transition in MK.

Still doesn’t justify Cars Land in Magic Kingdom.
 
PizzaPlanet

PizzaPlanet

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BrianLo said:
It's also a bit of a franchise in decline. I think it holds significant weight and nostalgia for Gen Z, but I don't think Gen Alpha really pays attention to it much. It's not a bad franchise and it's a delightful land in DCA, but it is well over a decade old.
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To be fair though that’s like brand new by Disney standards. Tokyo just got an E-ticket based on a movie released in the early 50s
 
SilentWindODoom

SilentWindODoom

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TheRealSkull said:
They have so much room to expand. Not worried about that one bit. Blessing of size people!
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It's a concern I've heard with the park before and has been leveled at Toy Story Land. With the BBQ restaurant now, there's a bit of a dead end. Yes, there's plenty of room, but building a land with a back border that cuts off access to new expansion without a winding pathway with nothing on it isn't optimal.

Delta-7 said:
So RSR is coming (to MK)? Or at least a higher chance of it? I wasn’t really surprised that it could be a possibility because Radiator Springs —> desert stuff.
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No. That's not what I was saying at all. I was saying that we're likely not going to have any new information on the project this thread is about, so we're having a conversation on the theoretical fit of something that has been postulated could be there.

Delta-7 said:
But talking modern cars to me isn’t the same thing as talking animals, monsters - even tiki statues, sentient objects from animated films, and the cab from Roger Rabbit. Those are either living beings or cartoonish things that don’t take realism seriously, and have some enchanting charm to them. Modern cars are machines. Even though the Cars world does have sentient vehicles, that’s pretty much all the magic it has. Everything else is realistic.
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Eh. Sounds more like a matter of "it's never been done, so it feels like it doesn't fit whether that's a rational thought or not". The word "vibes" has been brought up a bunch. Same thing.

EricsBiscuit said:
What would be nice is if they built something on the level of Fantasy Springs at TDS. Multiple high quality attractions in an excellently themed environment. Also, one land but multiple IPs.
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Honestly... I'd actually like that at Animal Kingdom. All the Fantasy Springs rides are fairly small or unambitious compared to a giant E-ticket. Impressive, of course. But they're all the kind of thing that we've been saying AK needs. Getting four of them at once would be a boon!
 
TheRealSkull

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Haymarket2008 said:
I know a few “Baddies” who could fit that bill quite nicely.

Magic Kingdom deserves the Fantasy Springs level of expansion and investment.
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Pretty sure Villians will execute to that level. I'm just hoping that every attraction in this new expansion doesn't need to be one of these "big box" attractions (Rise of the Resistance, Flight of Passage, Runaway Railway, Guardians, etc...). Sometimes I do prefer the simplicity of a B or C ticket.
 
Haymarket2008

Haymarket2008

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TheRealSkull said:
Pretty sure Villians will execute to that level. I'm just hoping that every attraction in this new expansion doesn't need to be one of these "big box" attractions (Rise of the Resistance, Flight of Passage, Runaway Railway, Guardians, etc...). Sometimes I do prefer the simplicity of a B or C ticket.
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Fully agree. Which is what Fantasy Springs does so well.

They have a B, C, D+ and E. A GREAT and diverse lineup. (These are up for debate, but thats how I'd classify them.)
 
TheRealSkull

TheRealSkull

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Haymarket2008 said:
Fully agree. Which is what Fantasy Springs does so well.

They have a B, C, D+ and E. A GREAT and diverse lineup. (These are up for debate, but thats how I'd classify them.)
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Yep I would agree too. But I am over the trackless craze. At least until the breakdowns stop occurring daily, sometimes multiple times a day, which would take some time to figure out. But that is just the nature of the ride system, I guess.
 

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