News 'Beyond Big Thunder Mountain' Blue Sky concept revealed for Magic Kingdom

doctornick

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I’d love for them to bring the best stuff from their other parks to WDW.

I’ve no interest in a Disney Land trip as long as WDW is an option, and if I’m visiting Tokyo or Paris, places with endless cultural and historical interest, I’m unlikely to spend time in a theme park.
This has generally been my attitude as well. I mean, I think have the occasional unique attraction at each park is good but most great attractions should be at multiple parks in order to save money and have a wide variety of guests experience them - especially at WDW given the “blessing of size”.

Personally I think a nice general guideline would be to generally consider cloning rides from the Asia parks at WDW and clone attractions between DLR and DLP - given the proximity of DLR to WDW (and some overlap of guests there). The number of folks that go to Disney parks in China or Japan and also do trips to WDW is so small that it really shouldn’t be a huge consideration.

Edit: I’d also say I have less of an issue with unique stuff at DLR vs WDW because there is some overlap there and they both have a certain place in the American psyche.
 
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TheRealSkull

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More reason for them to bring them to World.
And people have been asking for the cloning of the experiencs, especially with the success of Fantasy Springs, Frozen and all. Don't know why people are so against the idea of a cloning of Cars Land or RSR though. I have seen more people wearing Cars merchandise in the parks recently.

That being said, new experiences would be just as welcome, too. But don't forget the winning formula.
 
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doctornick

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You’re really missing out on some superior Disney experiences.
But is going to a “better” Disney park worth pursuing over the myriad of actual unique cultural attractions to experience in Paris, Tokyo, Hong Kong or Shanghai? I guess if I had a month off and was in France traveling I might go to DLP but if I’m on a typical one or two week trip, DLP wouldn’t find a way into my itinerary- too much other stuff to do there
 

peter11435

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But is going to a “better” Disney park worth pursuing over the myriad of actual unique cultural attractions to experience in Paris, Tokyo, Hong Kong or Shanghai? I guess if I had a month off and was in France traveling I might go to DLP but if I’m on a typical one or two week trip, DLP wouldn’t find a way into my itinerary- too much other stuff to do there
I was mostly referring to Disneyland honestly.
 

Delta-7

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And people have been asking for the cloning of the experiencs, especially with the success of Fantasy Springs, Frozen and all. Don't know why people are so against the idea of a cloning of Cars Land or RSR though. I have never seen more people wearing Cars merchandise in the parks recently.

That being said, new experiences would be just as welcome, too. But don't forget the winning formula.
I wouldn’t give a crap if Cars Land was brought to WDW period, but I would not be okay with it part of Beyond Big Thunder. I get the Monument Valley connection, but I struggle to accept the idea of having modern racing cars with faces around the corner from a rustic, 19th century gold mine in which the only semblance of the unrealistic is the trains moving without drivers.
 

bwr827

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I wouldn’t give a crap if Cars Land was brought to WDW period, but I would not be okay with it part of Beyond Big Thunder. I get the Monument Valley connection, but I struggle to accept the idea of having modern racing cars with faces around the corner from a rustic, 19th century gold mine in which the only semblance of the unrealistic is the trains moving without drivers.
All they need is a thematic transition as you walk, denoting the passage of time and advancement in civilized development and transportation technology.
 

doctornick

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I wouldn’t give a crap if Cars Land was brought to WDW period, but I would not be okay with it part of Beyond Big Thunder. I get the Monument Valley connection, but I struggle to accept the idea of having modern racing cars with faces around the corner from a rustic, 19th century gold mine in which the only semblance of the unrealistic is the trains moving without drivers.
Yeah, I’m of the mind that if they bring Cars Land to WDW, it should go into DHS.
 

Tha Realest

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And people have been asking for the cloning of the experiencs, especially with the success of Fantasy Springs, Frozen and all. Don't know why people are so against the idea of a cloning of Cars Land or RSR though. I have never seen more people wearing Cars merchandise in the parks recently.

That being said, new experiences would be just as welcome, too. But don't forget the winning formula.
I don’t have an objection to them bringing Cars Land to WDW. It’s probably one of my favorite lands. I do think *just* bringing RSR fees lazy and cheap and eliminates like most of the charm of the land.
 

yensidtlaw1969

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I wouldn’t give a crap if Cars Land was brought to WDW period, but I would not be okay with it part of Beyond Big Thunder. I get the Monument Valley connection, but I struggle to accept the idea of having modern racing cars with faces around the corner from a rustic, 19th century gold mine in which the only semblance of the unrealistic is the trains moving without drivers.
"Here you leave today and enter the world of Yesterday, Tomorrow, Fantasy, and KA⚡CHOW"
 

Chef idea Mickey`=

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I wouldn’t give a crap if Cars Land was brought to WDW period, but I would not be okay with it part of Beyond Big Thunder. I get the Monument Valley connection, but I struggle to accept the idea of having modern racing cars with faces around the corner from a rustic, 19th century gold mine in which the only semblance of the unrealistic is the trains moving without drivers.
Unless in WDW's version they make it so you don't and won't see the Cars.. perhaps if where Big Thunder was the back of Ornament Valley and the Cars are actually facing Beyond but still hidden beneath the bedrock so to give that Magic Kingdom scenery remained.
 

TheRealSkull

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Unless in WDW's version they make it so you don't and won't see the Cars.. perhaps if where Big Thunder was the back of Ornament Valley and the Cars are actually facing Beyond but still hidden beneath the bedrock so to give that Magic Kingdom scenery remained.
Yeah if the Rivers of America in Disneyland could hide Galaxy's Edge well, they can do the same in Florida. Especially with all that space.
 

Chef idea Mickey`=

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I’d love for them to bring the best stuff from their other parks to WDW.
Walt Disney World should never be compared to Disneyland resort. There's a reason it's castle park is called Magic Kingdom and not Disneyland Florida. The name World should encompass the most of all The Parks Around The World.

Having Walt Disney World share attractions from the World makes the name WDW best sense and it would never take away from the other parks success or appeal. It could actually do the opposite effect and hence intrigue many guests to want to visit the other parks for having the experience or shared experiences in this Giant resort.
 

McMickeyWorld

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Although I don't like the idea of Cars due to the narrative style of its story, I don't think it is a problem for me because of the "modern" aspect. In the end, it's more likely that Coco is closer to Cars than to the Wild West or Tiana. Even in the movie itself, there is modern technology. If I had to guess, I would say it could take place between the late 90s and the early 2000s (depending on the context of the town of Santa Cecilia, but based on my personal experience, it gives me vibes of my childhood in the 2000s) xd 😅
 

TheRealSkull

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Although I don't like the idea of Cars due to the narrative style of its story, I don't think it is a problem for me because of the "modern" aspect. In the end, it's more likely that Coco is closer to Cars than to the Wild West or Tiana. Even in the movie itself, there is modern technology. If I had to guess, I would say it could take place between the late 90s and the early 2000s (depending on the context of the town of Santa Cecilia, but based on my personal experience, it gives me vibes of my childhood in the 2000s) xd 😅
No denying it, too, Cars Land would be a massive hit in Florida.
 

MisterPenguin

President of Animal Kingdom
Premium Member
Walt Disney World should never be compared to Disneyland resort. There's a reason it's castle park is called Magic Kingdom and not Disneyland Florida. The name World should encompass the most of all The Parks Around The World.

Having Walt Disney World share attractions from the World makes the name WDW best sense and it would never take away from the other parks success or appeal. It could actually do the opposite effect and hence intrigue many guests to want to visit the other parks for having the experience or shared experiences in this Giant resort.
WDW and DL have basically the same number of rides -- with most of them being the same exact ride (with minor changes), or, the same ride mechanic, but with a different theme. So, in that way, the comparison is apt.

However, WDW does have many more non-ride attractions and a more resort-like resort attached to it -- a world fair, a zoo, golf courses, spas, nightly fireworks, etc...
 

yensidtlaw1969

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Walt Disney World should never be compared to Disneyland resort. There's a reason it's castle park is called Magic Kingdom and not Disneyland Florida. The name World should encompass the most of all The Parks Around The World.

Having Walt Disney World share attractions from the World makes the name WDW best sense and it would never take away from the other parks success or appeal. It could actually do the opposite effect and hence intrigue many guests to want to visit the other parks for having the experience or shared experiences in this Giant resort.
I don’t know, I’m definitely not interested in visiting Tokyo Disneyland because of all the stuff that’s the same as WDW. I’m much more interested in seeing the stuff that I haven’t seen anywhere else.

Technically that falls under fantasy. Also Cars resembles true American car culture.
Yeah, and Tomatoes are technically a fruit, but Fruit Salad and all that. Cars Land is not a natural fit for The Magic Kingdom.
 

TheRealSkull

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WDW and DL have basically the same number of rides -- with most of them being the same exact ride (with minor changes), or, the same ride mechanic, but with a different theme. So, in that way, the comparison is apt.

However, WDW does have many more non-ride attractions and a more resort-like resort attached to it -- a world fair, a zoo, golf courses, spas, nightly fireworks, etc...
Again, I ask, where was this argument when Galaxy's Edge was announced and no one complained about the cloning of it?
 

TheRealSkull

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I don’t know, I’m definitely not interested in visiting Tokyo Disneyland because of all the stuff that’s the same as WDW. I’m much more interested in seeing the stuff that I haven’t seen anywhere else.


Yeah, and Tomatoes are technically a fruit, but Fruit Salad and all that. Cars Land is not a natural fit for The Magic Kingdom.
It actually is a great fit considering the family friendly appeal and the rockwork transitioning well from Big Thunder Mountain. Especially if the rockwork creates a stunning backdrop for Big Thunder. Wouldn't that fit in better than the current Florida swampland and greenery surrounding that Frontier landscape? Sounds more thematically consistent to me.
 

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