Avengers Campus - Reactions / Reviews

[BrianLo]

I so wish I could take all of you on Shanghai's Pirates... don't blame the tech, blame the people utilizing it.

 

[Californian Elitist]

I’m not eager to get to Shanghai Disneyland, let alone ride their version of Pirates.

 

[mickEblu]

I so wish I could take all of you on Shanghai's Pirates... don't blame the tech, blame the people utilizing it.

Does this include the fight scene screen?

 

[Disney Irish]

There’s the irony. This isn’t the 50’s and 60’s anymore, and yet instead of actual sets, we get screens. There are PLENTY more resources available today to be sufficient enough to blow Pirates, Mansion, and even Indy out of the water, and yet here we are, wearing 3D glasses and watching television.

And there are plenty of examples out there of attractions at various Disney parks around the world that show the screen technology works within an attraction. I understand that it hasn't fully made it to DLR, but that is a different conversation.

 

[BrianLo]

I’m not eager to get to Shanghai Disneyland, let alone ride their version of Pirates.

I mean just to briefly transport people to the ride, not like a mandate to go. Just so people can see the right way that screens can actually improve a dark ride.

 

[SuddenStorm]

I will fully admit that GotG is the not the best use of the screen technology. However I personally don't think its bad or that it takes me out of the moment anymore so than any other attraction. My point is not specifically to defend GotG, but rather that screen based attractions have their place in a theme park. As I've said before, I'm not an advocate of any one technology over the other, I think both screens and practical sets/AAs have their place in attractions. I just think you can't limit WDI, let them use the best tools to tell a story on an attraction. And if that primary technology used is screens, so be it.

The problem is, screens- while an invaluable tool for the creators- are more often used as a time and cost saving measure vs. a "let's make the best experience possible"

I'd extend this to projections as well. In some cases, projections are phenomenal for enhancing effects- but other times, they're used in place of physical effects.

 

[BrianLo]

Does this include the fight scene screen?

That's not particularly a standout, but I don't think I have much problem with it in real life.

Really the underwater transitions and the backdrop for the boat battle are magnificent.

 

[mickEblu]

That's not particularly a standout, but I don't think I have much problem with it in real life.

Really the underwater transitions and the backdrop for the boat battle are magnificent.

The underwater transitions and backdrop for the battle come across somehow as being pretty impressive even on the YouTube ride throughs. I just don’t think screens really have a place as the focal point of main story telling device like the Sparrow/ Davy Jones fight scene for example.

 

[brb1006]

So the question is not if this Spider-Man ride will be as good as the attraction at Universal but will it be as good as the Justice League shooter at Six Flags?

At least the Justice League ride is in improvement for Six Flags standards. The same can't be said for their Looney Tunes stage shows.

 

[brb1006]

I’m not eager to get to Shanghai Disneyland, let alone ride their version of Pirates.

But the Shanghai Pirates is one of the few times screens are used for good effect.

 

[Disney Irish]

The problem is, screens- while an invaluable tool for the creators- are more often used as a time and cost saving measure vs. a "let's make the best experience possible"

I'd extend this to projections as well. In some cases, projections are phenomenal for enhancing effects- but other times, they're used in place of physical effects.

The same can be said about any cost cutting measure within an attraction. However I don't think any of us here know for sure that screens inherently cost less than practical effects, that is just an assumption.

 

[BrianLo]

The underwater transitions and backdrop for the battle come across somehow as being pretty impressive even on the YouTube ride throughs. I just don’t think screens really have a place as the focal point of main story telling device like the Sparrow/ Davy Jones fight scene for example.

I somewhat agree. I don't think they belong in non-action sequences (characters pontificating at you) and they definitely need to avoid the pitfalls of lack of depth without properly framing the screen ala Gringotts.

The only screen elements that actually annoys me is Jack Sparrow yelling from the upper deck in the main boat battle sequence. But no ride is perfect. My other complaint is the lack of continuity of theming in the back half of the reverse tunnel. Maybe my eyesight is too good or something...

 

[Disney Irish]

I somewhat agree. I don't think they belong in non-action sequences (characters pontificating at you) and they definitely need to avoid the pitfalls of lack of depth without properly framing the screen ala Gringotts.

The only screen elements that actually annoys me is Jack Sparrow yelling from the upper deck in the main boat battle sequence.

This is where I think screen excel at action sequences vs practical effects and AAs. There are just limited physics with practical effects and AAs within a confined space that screens allow you to overcome.

 

[TROR]

Theme parks are physical environment that guests can walk in and explore and movie screens are the anti-thesis of theme park design

 

[SuddenStorm]

The same can be said about any cost cutting measure within an attraction. However I don't think any of us here know for sure that screens inherently cost less than practical effects, that is just an assumption.

It's definitely not an assumption. Factor in long term maintenance costs for maintaining a projector and screen vs a unique animatronic.

 

[Californian Elitist]

And there are plenty of examples out there of attractions at various Disney parks around the world that show the screen technology works within an attraction. I understand that it hasn't fully made it to DLR, but that is a different conversation.

I’m not referring to what works and what doesn’t work. I’m referring to effort.

 

[SuddenStorm]

Theme parks are physical environment that guests can walk in and explore and movie screens are the anti-thesis of theme park design

I've never once seen that emoji used in a way that isn't incredibly obnoxious. I agree with the point, but yeesh.

 

[Disney Irish]

It's definitely not an assumption. Factor in long term maintenance costs for maintaining a projector and screen vs a unique animatronic.

I have a feeling if you do a cost based analysis of screens vs AAs over the life time of both I have a feeling they'll come out equal.

 

[Californian Elitist]

But the Shanghai Pirates is one of the few times screens are used for good effect.

So?

 

[SuddenStorm]

I have a feeling if you do a cost based analysis of screens vs AAs over the life time of both I have a feeling they'll come out equal.

Switching out a projector bulb whenever one burns out costs the same as maintaining a custom built animatronic?