Avengers Campus - Reactions / Reviews

mickey33

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Just like Paris!

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IMDREW

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I thought all three would share the big E-ticket Avengers ride.. Though the original artwork for the HKDL version looked way better than the big silver box it has become in DCA. But all three had the quinjet outside, so they sound like the same ride. I don't think they would design multiple different Quinjet rides, so that should be a hint I guess.
 

IMDREW

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So Hong Kong gets redressed Buzz Lightyear, redressed Star Tours and the Quinjet ride.
DCA gets redressed Midway Mania, a bar and Quinjet ride.
What does Paris get?
Don’t forget redressed tower of terror for DCA as well. Paris gets redressed Rock’n’Roller coaster and redressed Midway Mania (same spidey ride as DCA).

So all three lands have 2 redressed rides and the big avengers E-ticket eventually.
 

planodisney

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Redressed Midway Mania, redressed Rock’n’Roller Coaster and likely Quinjet clone.
i have only heard about the Avengers attraction for Hong Kong and DCA. I’m wondering if, with all the other additions to Paris, they are getting a smaller Avengers Campus. I know the GE concept art for Paris looks scaled down.
Also, let me try this.
DCA gets
1. A rethemed ToT that was significantly inferior to the original and has proven to be very popular.
2. A Spiderman D/E ticket that uses some Midway Mania tech and design but has plussed ride vehicles with more movement, some actual sets in the attraction and all over projections, not JUST screens.
3. A purpose built area for an outdoor permanent Dr. Strange show the caliber of which DCA is sorely lacking.
3. A themed sit down eatery.
4. Highly themed purpose built Avengers headquarters M&G facility.
5. A huge Avengers E-ticket with all new ride tech.
 

Phroobar

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i have only heard about the Avengers attraction for Hong Kong and DCA. I’m wondering if, with all the other additions to Paris, they are getting a smaller Avengers Campus. I know the GE concept art for Paris looks scaled down.
Also, let me try this.
DCA gets
1. A rethemed ToT that was significantly inferior to the original and has proven to be very popular.
2. A Spiderman D/E ticket that uses some Midway Mania tech and design but has plussed ride vehicles with more movement, some actual sets in the attraction and all over projections, not JUST screens.
3. A purpose built area for an outdoor permanent Dr. Strange show the caliber of which DCA is sorely lacking.
3. A themed sit down eatery.
4. Highly themed purpose built Avengers headquarters M&G facility.
5. A huge Avengers E-ticket with all new ride tech.
6. The build your own Infinity Gauntlet store.
 

IMDREW

Well-Known Member
It’s planned for Paris where the stunt show now sits. The stunt show entrance will for the forseeable time be moved to the side where the new lake will be. When all expansions are successful they plan to expand everything they’re building now.

So thats a second ride for Star wArs land. The frozen coaster for frozen and the avengers e-ticket for marvel.

But thats years out at this time.
 

shambolicdefending

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I think Disney's starting to see the other shoe drop. Overcrowding, subpar new attractions, lands that generate no emotional attachment, and overpricing to the point where even the most casual customer perceives the company as greedy-- These are not factors that generate repeat visitors.
And yet record attendance every year.

So I don’t disagree with you in principal. But in the real world where Disney is considered a lifestyle your point is moot. I mean just look at us here, we sit here daily discussing the same basic topics over and over. We complain , we bi*ch, we moan over things like pricing and lackluster offerings. Yet I venture to guess that 95-99% of us still give Disney money in some form or another all because we need our Disney fix.
I think there are multiple things true at once here.

Domestically, the parks have been in a pattern of cutting costs (i.e. quality) and raising prices for a few years now. That always has long term consequences that eventually force the pendulum back the other way. Same type of thing we saw in the late 90s-early 00s. Eventually it caught up with them, and they had to bring in Ouimet and basically rebuild DCA to get things back on track.

But, the overall effects are usually a lot more subtle (a gradual plateau or modest attendance decline), and Disney's business and offerings are still strong enough overall that the bottom never really falls out, per se.
 

DanielBB8

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There wasn't record attendance this year. It was record revenues, which is different and should be considered better, but Wall Street punished Disney a bit. Disney can recover with strategic price discounts.
 

Disney Irish

Premium Member
I think there are multiple things true at once here.

Domestically, the parks have been in a pattern of cutting costs (i.e. quality) and raising prices for a few years now. That always has long term consequences that eventually force the pendulum back the other way. Same type of thing we saw in the late 90s-early 00s. Eventually it caught up with them, and they had to bring in Ouimet and basically rebuild DCA to get things back on track.

But, the overall effects are usually a lot more subtle (a gradual plateau or modest attendance decline), and Disney's business and offerings are still strong enough overall that the bottom never really falls out, per se.
Except this isn't the 90s and we aren't seeing the same type of cuts. So its not exactly the same, so not truly comparable.
 

Disney Irish

Premium Member
There wasn't record attendance this year. It was record revenues, which is different and should be considered better, but Wall Street punished Disney a bit. Disney can recover with strategic price discounts.
I don't know how you can say that when the year isn't over yet.

For the last decade, except for 2012 and 2016, the attendance at DL has steadily increased:


If anything 2019 will likely be flat to slightly lower just like in 2016. Which still over the average of the last decade is still a yearly increase.
 

shambolicdefending

Well-Known Member
I don't know how you can say that when the year isn't over yet.

For the last decade, except for 2012 and 2016, the attendance at DL has steadily increased:


If anything 2019 will likely be flat to slightly lower just like in 2016. Which still over the average of the last decade is still a yearly increase.
With a few odd exceptions, attendance has basically always increased since 1955. I'm sure that will continue into the forseeable future. No other competitor can compete with the quality of the Disney parks experience. Until that changes, attendance will continue to grow with market size.

Although, it is worth noting that it appears the attendance increases in the last 20 years have been disproportionately driven by increased AP visits, which probably isn't as valuable to the company financially.
 

Disney Irish

Premium Member
With a few odd exceptions, attendance has basically always increased since 1955. I'm sure that will continue into the forseeable future. No other competitor can compete with the quality of the Disney parks experience. Until that changes, attendance will continue to grow with market size.

Although, it is worth noting that it appears the attendance increases in the last 20 years have been disproportionately driven by increased AP visits, which probably isn't as valuable to the company financially.
So that was my point exactly, attendance continues to rise no matter what.

As for APs there has been no proof they aren't valuable to the company financially. In fact I would say this summer proved beyond a reasonable doubt they are even more valuable to the company than most here would admit. Iger even admitted as much during the recent earnings call.
 

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