I have to assume it was a typo from a previous post, or maybe they're saying they're going to blow raspberries at people
Discard the ppl pppppp text lol, yes I’m sure Fantastic Four will surely set up the avengers saga and maybe drop an RDJ Doom cameo.
D&W is an endearing wake for the Fox X-Men films more than anything else. Its MCU status is rather perfunctory.
Perfunctory Definition: Carried out with a minimum of effort or reflection.
Outside of Nolan's entries DC hasn't owned anything in the last 30+ years. It'll remain to be seen if Gunn's attempt at a reboot changes that, but so far I'm not holding my breathe.
Suicide Squad didn’t set the world on fire. DC seems to just be cursed in terms of directors, actors, story. I’m not hoping for them to fail as competition is always Angie thing but I guess we will see what the new Superman brings to the table.
So far Superman Legacy has been viewed better than Man of Steel and they aren't rushing it this time by leading directly into things like BVS and JL.
Some people seem to think WB should cut their losses on trying to build a MCU level universe. Another factor holding DC back is money. WB has had nowhere near as much money as Disney to take big chances on DC.
I'll add Wonder Woman (2017) to the list.
Individual pieces of content that do well here and there is not “owning” a year or decades as the poster I quoted was saying would happen. Also 3 out of those 4 are tv shows, ones that don’t really move the needle in terms of viewership. So again that isn’t “owning” anything.
Trailer viewership doesn’t equate to box office “owning”, just ask the Snyder Bros on that one.
I'm just speaking in terms of quality and entertainment. Suicide Squad, Peacemaker, Creature Commandos, and Doom Patrol are far better than any of the MCU shows or recent films. Plus you also got non canon flicks like Joker and Joker 2, which was maligned by many, but is actually more interesting than the original film.
Wonder Woman had a good first half. I just really hate where the film ends up at. It reminds me of a lot of the recent MCU shows and films. Interesting ideas that eventually give way to the same generic cookie-cutter superhero noise.
Ok, but still isn’t what my post was about which was a response to another poster.
I don't care about "owning," I care about having films and television that tell interesting stories with characters who make me care about them. Marvel has lost that since Endgame. DC has been mailing it. Sure, Suicide Squad wasn't a huge hit. Because it was free on HBO Max immediately. And it was named similarly to the atrocious The Suicide Squad. And while those factors may have affected the Box Office, they didn't affect the film itself.
Eh, agree to disagree on the "artistic" aspect.
But we are not talking about a production of Hamlet that nobody sees. We are talking about a production of Hamlet that has been seen and applauded by millions and comparing the ticket sales to a production of Mrs. Doubtfire the musical. Obviously the watered down family content is going to generate more revenue, but nobody is pointing Mrs. Doubtfire or recent MCU films as success stories. And as an audience member, I'd rather watch a great version of Hamlet in a smaller crowd than a soulless content that lacks characters and good writing.
You’re trying to argue a different point than what was being talked about, which was box office. For you as an artist you care about something different than what general audiences or even studios care about. I understand why it’s important to you, but again that isn’t DC “owning” Marvel at the box office. DC hasn’t “owned” the box office or for that matter the overall genre for decades outside of Nolan. Yes you can point to individual movies that were successful, but overall they really haven’t brought the masses along to the genre since Reeves played Superman and Keaton played Batman. That is the difference between “owning” and fumbling, and DC has been fumbling their franchise for a long time, something that many here claim the MCU is now doing.
Well the ride is just now starting construction, so it’s going to be a bit until we have any real conversation about it. As it’s going to be a few months of very little progress until construction goes vertical and we can see the actual progress. So check back on the progress in like April or May.
Thank you agent H is out! Peace!