AVATAR land - the specifics

[Rteetz]

Some inside photos

http://blogmickey.com/2017/04/photos-leaked-images-pandora-construction-site/

Also, it appears some are getting in early. JeniLynn from Inside the Magic is at Pandora today.

 

[danlb_2000]

Some inside photos

http://blogmickey.com/2017/04/photos-leaked-images-pandora-construction-site/

Also, it appears some are getting in early. JeniLynn from Inside the Magic is at Pandora today.

"Hertz Rental" really ruins the immersions.

I all seriousness these are cool pictures. Hopefully they don't get pulled.

 

[sculljoey]

Also, it appears some are getting in early. JeniLynn from Inside the Magic is at Pandora today.

I'm assuming she's there on official disney (green badge) business and not for itm

 

[Kman101]

I doubt they'll love the leaks but maybe it's intentional?

 

[Cesar R M]

Those numbers are not close to accurate, for Pandora or several others. Just at AK he's significantly off (plus or minus) for Kali, Everest, Dinosaur, and Kilimanjaro.

He admits that he's merely guessing so that's okay, I appreciate the honest disclaimer.

Flight of Passages throughput is well under the theoretical, but the theoretical is much higher than what he's guessing. It's got 4 theaters and I promise you each of them isn't going to do 330 an hour operationally. Look to Soarin for your numbers on that. Ruver Journey- boy I would have loved to see throughput numbers like that, but we're looking at boats smaller than Frozen and he's expecting 3 times Frozen's typical ohrc? Intervals will be faster, but to achieve 3000 an hour on a 4-5 person boat (on average) you'd need to send out over 600 boats an hour, or one every 10 seconds to hit thrc.

Cant that be done if there was multiple lading stations? Ie, 6 loading stations at same time, it takes 120 seconds to fill each one, thus you get approximately 10 second dispatch for each boats as long they go in succession.

 

[Cesar R M]

Where is it said that Disney won't have the Magic Band readers in Pandora?

I actually wonder if they will be themed differently. Instead of having a Mickey logo. It will have a Banshee logo?

 

[Cesar R M]

The report I saw was from the site ending in NT that said their would be readers but they'd be customized to ACE and not a Mickey logo. Obviously not confirmed but I guess it's a possibility.

Awesome!

 

[danlb_2000]

I actually wonder if they will be themed differently. Instead of having a Mickey logo. It will have a Banshee logo?

May an ACE logo.

 

[Cesar R M]

Some inside photos

http://blogmickey.com/2017/04/photos-leaked-images-pandora-construction-site/

Also, it appears some are getting in early. JeniLynn from Inside the Magic is at Pandora today.

daaaaamn.. looking nice!
I was exception about Disney lately(specially after the mine train). But after Shangai pirate's and AK. I hope they continue this trend of high quality and immersion.

 

[wdisney9000]

Again, it reads as if they dislike the movie so they're finding a way to complain about it by wanting to know why Disney "prefers" SW and Pandora over the other lands, which reads how I took it. I know they say it's not but that's how I took it, and I appreciate one of them clarifying it, not that they really owed me anything.

To me, appreciate the immersion and stop trying to find a way to complain about something you haven't seen yet. The points are valid but I explained how I saw it. I'll move on. LOL

Sorry, I just try to ask questions and maybe come off a little pushy at times but it's just me trying to understand other viewpoints ...

My concern, (not complaint) is that it will be FLE all over again in terms of a beautifully themed land with mediocre rides. Please remember, I am not complaining, just being cautious to get my hopes in terms of Disney producing something groundbreaking attraction wise.

If Flight of Passage is simply "Soarin over Pandora", that will be upsetting. Doesnt mean it wont be a fun attraction, I am just hoping Disney allowed WDI do a little more than clone Soarin. Same for the boat ride. I hope it is not 4 minutes of screens and a few sets then a cool A.A. at the end. Again, not saying that it will not be fun, just that Id like to see Disney produce something unique, let alone mind blowing at WDW. Its been quite awhile now.

 

[doctornick]

My concern, (not complaint) is that it will be FLE all over again in terms of a beautifully themed land with mediocre rides. Please remember, I am not complaining, just being cautious to get my hopes in terms of Disney producing something groundbreaking attraction wise.

I agree with this concern. I do think it is extremely important for the quality of the rides to match with the overall land. Otherwise, it is a larger scale issue of what we have seen with the Little Mermaid ride at MK where the queue builds up too much for the overall ride quality. I'm hoping that they didn't skim on making high quality rides (not just high quality queues for the rides).

That said....

If Flight of Passage is simply "Soarin over Pandora", that will be upsetting. Doesnt mean it wont be a fun attraction, I am just hoping Disney allowed WDI do a little more than clone Soarin. Same for the boat ride. I hope it is not 4 minutes of screens and a few sets then a cool A.A. at the end. Again, not saying that it will not be fun, just that Id like to see Disney produce something unique, let alone mind blowing at WDW. Its been quite awhile now.

These concerns seem far too pessimistic based on simply on what we know about the experiences. For starters, FoP is certainly not "a little more than a clone of Soarin'" -- the seats alone give that away not to mention the reports that there will be more specific 4D effects and far more movement of the ride (plus it being in 3D). It's a ride system that has some similarities but not the same ride at all. We also already know it has a higher height restriction than Soarin' (44" versus 40") hinting to the greater thrill level and movement involved. I'm personally confident that the experience will be unique and enthralling especially with Cameron's involvement.

As for NRJ, I think there's a lot more question about what it will entail. I have a nagging feeling that it will be kind of ride where some people will rave about it while others will say "that's it?" and be underwhelmed -- sort of like the ride equivalent of RoL. That said, even if it has its flaws (and it's not intended to be the headliner), it should exhibit the best blending of video and physicals sets in tandem that WDW has seen to date.

 

[roj2323]

All images by https://twitter.com/LoganTMiller

 

[Kman101]

My concern, (not complaint) is that it will be FLE all over again in terms of a beautifully themed land with mediocre rides. Please remember, I am not complaining, just being cautious to get my hopes in terms of Disney producing something groundbreaking attraction wise.

If Flight of Passage is simply "Soarin over Pandora", that will be upsetting. Doesnt mean it wont be a fun attraction, I am just hoping Disney allowed WDI do a little more than clone Soarin. Same for the boat ride. I hope it is not 4 minutes of screens and a few sets then a cool A.A. at the end. Again, not saying that it will not be fun, just that Id like to see Disney produce something unique, let alone mind blowing at WDW. Its been quite awhile now.

I agree with this concern too. I stated in another thread about Test Track that it's style over substance and it seems to be a trend lately. I'm cautiously optimistic but the land itself looks like it will be incredible. I have my concerns too but I've always said the land itself look great and I think immersion should be applauded, not finding a way to passive aggressively complain because other areas aren't as immersive. They should be but that's really not the point.

 

[Figments Friend]

So why did he let them cut huge chunks out of the River Ride (after OKing only two rides in the first place?)

Priorities.



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[Casper Gutman]

Priorities.



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The rides weren't priorities? I'm not sure that speaks to Disney's or Cameron's judgement...

 

[Figments Friend]

The rides weren't priorities? I'm not sure that speaks to Disney's or Cameron's judgement...

Oh they are, of course.
My comment regarding 'priorities' relates to the entire experience of Pandora as a whole entity, and not just focusing all resources in one area.
Rides are an important part of that experience for telling this lands 'story', but they are not the only elements worth being given attention ( and budget ) to in this themed area.

Trust in Cameron's judgment, and the creative people working on this project as the experience is going to deliver on many levels.




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[Rteetz]

I'm assuming she's there on official disney (green badge) business and not for itm

That would make sense. She said it's beautiful and went to both food locations.

 

[The_Mesh_Hatter]

What is UP with those tiny boats!?

 

[Kman101]

I doubt it was just up to Cameron that it would be two rides. Someone really wants to dislike everything about this LOL

 

[Magic Feather]

Having three rides was in a (much) earlier concept and was not approved, therefore it was not cut, merely opted out of. Same goes for the boat ride, in which (believe it or not) scenes were added, since it was originally about a 2.5 minute romp (albeit with more LM figures). The final product may put a bit of style over substance, but the substance is still present, moreso than Diagon or NFL (the land and league).