AVATAR land construction progress

HauntedMansionFLA

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Seeing as how they have appeared to master making the animals on the ToL move, would it be possible to make it appear that there are banshees resting on the side of the floating mountains?
The ToL was amazing when we saw it last week. It was one of my wife's highlights along with the new soarin' ride. I told her that Pandora will have a ride even better than that ride. It will be cool to see what they come up with - the technology to bring things to life is great.
 

ULPO46

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Well if you really want to get into the nitty gritty of things, we have both the technology and resources to Genetically Modify and engineer the genome sequencing in plants and add jellyfish proteins to make plants glow. If it is done on animals, why not plants. But you know, current Disney management has no use for vision since doing something this real and amazing would "over budget" a project that i wish had more to offer from such an amazing fictional universe.
 

Prototype82

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Im not really sure what to think of this. I hope they combine different effects to achieve the look of the planet being bioluminescent. Using only projections I'm afraid it wont look realistic enough. The light should come from the plants themselves, like they do in real bioluminescent sources, not just projected on, for it to look realistic.. so i hope they have some of that too!
I'm quite positive that they will. But if this is for bioluminescence, it does make sense to use projection on foliage that is up above/in the distance.
 

Mike S

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Well if you really want to get into the nitty gritty of things, we have both the technology and resources to Genetically Modify and engineer the genome sequencing in plants and add jellyfish proteins to make plants glow. If it is done on animals, why not plants. But you know, current Disney management has no use for vision since doing something this real and amazing would "over budget" a project that i wish had more to offer from such an amazing fictional universe.
And now we know why the land costs $1 Billion.
 

ULPO46

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And now we know why the land costs $1 Billion.
Haha it was crapped before it was even a thought. The idea was brought over to us from a professor at Florida State. But the cost was well over 7 figures so it wasn't an option for something we couldn't guarantee that guest wouldn't tear to shreds. You can only grow so many GM plants in a tube a year. Personally I really love science and thought it was a great idea, but money is a huge concern.
 

Buried20KLeague

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Im not really sure what to think of this. I hope they combine different effects to achieve the look of the planet being bioluminescent. Using only projections I'm afraid it wont look realistic enough. The light should come from the plants themselves, like they do in real bioluminescent sources, not just projected on, for it to look realistic.. so i hope they have some of that too!


They're already driving this projection mapping thing into the ground. It's going to lose it's wow factor with all the places they're rolling it out.
 

Mike S

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Haha it was crapped before it was even a thought. The idea was brought over to us from a professor at Florida State. But the cost was well over 7 figures so it wasn't an option for something we couldn't guarantee that guest wouldn't tear to shreds. You can only grow so many GM plants in a tube a year. Personally I really love science and thought it was a great idea, but money is a huge concern.
The way you talk is almost as if you're working on this yourself.
 

ULPO46

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The way you talk is almost as if you're working on this yourself.
No but i'm amongst those who are and the one who is most naive about this whole project. Don't get me wrong i love Avatar and pandora seems amazing, but 2009 is a long time ago in a world which Magic is the biggest draw to Orlando. Don't get me wrong WDW still gets the most visitors but it will take innovation that doesn't rely on cost to keep us ahead of the boys down the street who are finally leaving puberty behind them. All i know is i love my job, even though i've been approached to leave i have faith. But i'm a healthy skeptic and have been since i started my internship.
 

Disney Analyst

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While I could see them using projection to add depth to the mountain lighting package at night, including bioluminescence. I do wonder if perhaps this is just how they will light the mountains? It's such a unique structure, it would be hard to light with conventional equipment. You can use projection mapping to light everything you want without any spill over. I believe Shrek the Musical used projection mapping to light scenery on Broadway.
 

Cesar R M

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Definitively calibrating something, look at those marks!

Seeing as how they have appeared to master making the animals on the ToL move, would it be possible to make it appear that there are banshees resting on the side of the floating mountains?

Thats what I think as well.. Either that and also water effects.. I dont think that will be for bioluminescence.. because we never seen the aleluya mountains "light up". Only the dense forests of pandora.
Besides, the aleluya mountains are waaaaaaaaaaay too high in the movie (compared to the forest below).
 

mikeh

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Projection mapping is like a puzzle... you need to piece everything together just right to make it look convincing. I feel like that's why it looks so odd currently... they have to get it programed just right to the surface it will be projected on.

Yeah, this was the first night CM's had seen the projections, so I'm assuming it was some very early stage stuff that wasn't necessarily supposed to be captured.
 

Mawg

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Haha it was crapped before it was even a thought. The idea was brought over to us from a professor at Florida State. But the cost was well over 7 figures so it wasn't an option for something we couldn't guarantee that guest wouldn't tear to shreds. You can only grow so many GM plants in a tube a year. Personally I really love science and thought it was a great idea, but money is a huge concern.
Yeah, it's not a viable plan. But, it would have been cool to have built a small lab where these plants and animals are being studied and you could get a walk through, maybe in a queue. The really expensive, do not touch plants could be behind windows and maybe an animatronic on an operating table with a broken leg.
 

flyerjab

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Definitively calibrating something, look at those marks!



Thats what I think as well.. Either that and also water effects.. I dont think that will be for bioluminescence.. because we never seen the aleluya mountains "light up". Only the dense forests of pandora.
Besides, the aleluya mountains are waaaaaaaaaaay too high in the movie (compared to the forest below).

For some reason, I was thinking that the D23 model that was out - that included a nighttime version complete with bioluminescence - showed it on the floating mountain vegetation as well.
 

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