AVATAR land coming to Disney's Animal Kingdom

[lazyboy97o]

Do we have to bring this out again?

Welcome to a kingdom of animals... real, ancient and imagined: a kingdom ruled by lions, dinosaurs and dragons; a kingdom of balance, harmony and survival; a kingdom we enter to share in the wonder, gaze at the beauty, thrill at the drama, and learn.
—Michael D. Eisner, April 22, 1998

Where, may I ask, in that dedication does it say "Earth animals"? I believe the wildlife of Pandora fits perfectly into the "imagined" category.

The connection to earth and human cultures is seen in what was proposed and built as well as Joe Rohde's portfolio of work. And speaking of Joe, he can't be too busy with this seeing as he has been in Mongolia for the past month. So how long ago was the model photo taken?

Did it make 1 billion, or the inflation equivalent?

Point is, it was not a relevant movie.....if Avatar isnt "relevant" in 2017 (I guess we are tossing out the future sequels?) As long as the land is beautiful, the ride is fun and the shows bring in crowds.....it'll be a bonus. Besides, look at its replacing....a dead zone camp minnie mickey.....who cares? Throw in a merry-go-round and its an upgrade.

Relevance isn't directly correlated to box office numbers. People knew the Uncle Remus stories as well as the still known "Zip-A-Dee-Do-Da."

 

[lazyboy97o]

how many post have you made on this topic today/ take a break and just enjoy theme parks for what they are...give it try when it opens

And what elevates the theme park above the mere amusement park? They have to be more than just eye candy and rides.

 

[Captain Neo]

Harry Potter, kids grew up with it. It's kid friendly. LOTR, some kids grew up with it, it's still kid friendly.

Avatar...is NOT kid friendly.

It's an honor to have an expert on children's entertainment posting here.

 

[andre85]

The backside of Everest, I presume.
Having taken the KTTK tour, I can tell you this looks better than the backside of Splash.

Way better than the backside of Cars Land too

 

[doctornick]

What is TDO expecting from Avatar? I remember seeing the pictures of the crowds when Harry Potter Opened at IOA. If Disney is expecting those kind of crowds with Avatarland I think they will be disappointed. I don't think crowds that big are reasonable to expect for Avatar. But I do hope Avatarland and the night show make AK into a full day park. Any opinions ?

I cannot imagine that TDO would be so naive to expect that HP kind of reaction for Avatar (for Star Wars on the other hand, they might.....). I suspect what TDO would expect for DAK with Avatar and the night time show is:

1. More people going to DAK total (higher attendence) instead of skipping the park
2. People staying longer in the park, increasing revenue there (merch and food sales) and taking the burden off of the other parks that get PM traffic from DAK.
and, really optimistically,
3. People spending more than 1 day at DAK or just in general doing longer vacations at WDW.

 

[BaconPancakes]

I cannot imagine that TDO would be so naive to expect that HP kind of reaction for Avatar.

I'm pretty sure Bob Iger did expect that though.

 

[GoofGoof]

There is a difference between mythical and fictional...

You got me. There is a difference. It changes nothing. I was paraphrasing anyway. @danlb_2000 said it in his post better. Real, ancient and imagined. The creatures from Avatar are imagined. They fit in.

 

[EPCOT Robot]

Not really. But nice try.

According to this forum:

Movie makes billions of dollars due people going back to see it four times because the audience loved it so much.

Movie becomes the most successful film of all time.

Movie breaks home video records.

Movie receives multiple academy awards.

Movie receives near universal praise from all film critics.

But the movie is "bad" because a few elitist Disney nerds are mad it wasn't made by the Walt Disney Company.

Yeah, I think that about covers it.

 

[FigmentJedi]

But the movie is "bad" because a few elitist Disney nerds are mad it wasn't made by the Walt Disney Company.

Yeah, I think that about covers it.

Oh it's not just Disney fans. Avatar has been the butt of many an internet joke for its unoriginality, preachiness and creepy Navi otherkin fanbase.

 

[twebber55]

According to this forum:

Movie makes billions of dollars due people going back to see it four times because the audience loved it so much.

Movie becomes the most successful film of all time.

Movie breaks home video records.

Movie receives multiple academy awards.

Movie receives near universal praise from all film critics.

But the movie is "bad" because a few elitist Disney nerds are mad it wasn't made by the Walt Disney Company.

Yeah, I think that about covers it.

post of the day in my book...only here is this movie described as being bad

 

[BaconPancakes]

According to this forum:

Movie makes billions of dollars due people going back to see it four times because the audience loved it so much.

Movie becomes the most successful film of all time.

Movie breaks home video records.

Movie receives multiple academy awards.

Movie receives near universal praise from all film critics.

But the movie is "bad" because a few elitist Disney nerds are mad it wasn't made by the Walt Disney Company.

Yeah, I think that about covers it.

Why no dislike button wdwmagic?

 

[twebber55]

Oh it's not just Disney fans. Avatar has been the butt of many an internet joke for its unoriginality, preachiness and creepy Navi otherkin fanbase.

and star wars geek is one word used often

 

[misterID]

You got me. There is a difference. It changes nothing. I was paraphrasing anyway. @danlb_2000 said it in his post better. Real, ancient and imagined. The creatures from Avatar are imagined. They fit in.

Oh, are they still using the old imaginary vs mythical reason as to why Avatar doesn't fit AK?

...imaginary and mythical both mean the same thing: made up = imagined.

btw, I think it fits just on the shared enviormental message. That was my first thought at why it fit.

 

[BaconPancakes]

only here is this movie described as being bad

You tried it.

 

[twebber55]

Why no dislike button wdwmagic?

i may disagree with you but thats funny

 

[englanddg]

It's an honor to have an expert on children's entertainment posting here.

I never said, or claimed to be one. Thanks for playing.

But, here's what I see. A PG-13 rating...extravagant violence and cursing, trying to shore up a shallow plot that I could just have easily have shared with her by showing her Fern Gully, without the awkward questions and "new vocabulary".

Wow, a great film to show my 5 year old.

I suppose it does teach a "lesson"...about how magical plot devices can be invented to seal plot holes, and that will save her life...oh, and that she should "save the planet" even if it's not her planet...

Yeah...it's a worthless movie.

And to think that Spielberg swapped out shotguns for walkie talkies because he thought ET was "too violent"...

Meh...try again.

 

[GoofGoof]

Joe better watch his back - he's *this* close to being branded "angry theme park designer guy".

Haha. This is very funny. I laughed out loud. Posts like this are doing wonders to reverse your reputation as being "angry". Keep it up.

 

[twebber55]

I never said, or claimed to be one. Thanks for playing.

But, here's what I see. A PG-13 rating...extravagant violence and cursing, trying to shore up a shallow plot that I could just have easily have shared with her by showing her Fern Gully, without the awkward questions and "new vocabulary".

Wow, a great film to show my 5 year old.

I suppose it does teach a "lesson"...about how magical plot devices can be invented to seal plot holes, and that will save her life...oh, and that she should "save the planet" even if it's not her planet...

Yeah...it's a worthless movie.

And to think that Spielberg swapped out shotguns for walkie talkies because he thought ET was "too violent"...

Meh...try again.

who says the land will not be child appropriate?

 

[doctornick]

Harry Potter, kids grew up with it. It's kid friendly. LOTR, some kids grew up with it, it's still kid friendly.

Avatar...is NOT kid friendly.

While basically true, I'm not sure this is a big deal. Kids don't have to be intimately familiar with the source material to enjoy the attractions and I doubt they'd have a big military theme pervading the attractions. I'm expecting the rides to be more about viewing the environment of Pandora.

Also, I'm not sure the violence in Avatar is any worse than what is in the Harry Potter movies.

 

[FigmentJedi]

post of the day in my book...only here is this movie described as being bad

Someone hasn't been around the internet that much.