Peter Pano
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Can't say I'm too impressed by these comparisons. Maybe the boat ride should be renamed: "Pandora - It's A Very Small World"! 
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danlb_2000
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This is a good point. The measurement I took of the Maelstrom building included the queue and theater area, the Avatar measurement was just the area where the ride path is.
Correct. The one meter per fortnight rate will make this 12.3 month journey the longest ride in themed amusement park area history!
The Princess cruise where I ran into JC (men's crapper, bar, 4th level, aft if you must know) didn't even rate average in my opinion.
Cesar R M
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wdwgreek
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Reading over the last few pages of posts, and looking at the building comparisons, I think he ride will clock in around 5 minutes. I imagine this being a slower paced ride. The Maelstrom comparison may be not accurate, because of the backwards fast moving section, the drop and the indoor queue and theatre. It depends as everyone has been saying on it there are stops for show scenes, or slow downs at certain points. I wonder if we can look to the Shanghai boat ride as an indicator for ride system and technology?
dstrawn9889
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we would have to spot a 'boat' on its way to the ride to see the actual mechanism to tell if it is a real boat on a guide (think mark twain) or an omnimover with water around it... those seem to be the two ways to go with the guide that we see in the maintenance bay pictures
articos
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You are good at this.
No, it never actually goes into the pentagonal show building as per those leaked plans. It does run below the queue though, the turquoise structure I had highlighted.
This one demonstrates what the second floor looks like:
My completely (again educated) assumption is that the actual boat ride in the leaked plans was just a rough placeholder at the time to demonstrate how the Flight of Passage queue would eventually sit on top of a small chunk of Na'vi River Journey. Which is also why I don't lend too much credence to the plans naming it a C-ticket. That leak occurred well before Cameron was happy and one of those compromises likely involved plussing the C-ticket boat attraction it references.
djkidkaz
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Any idea if you will be able to see the boat ride while in the queue for Flight of Passage? I love when they give you the ability to get a little peek at other attractions from another ride. Similar to Splash and the train, or people mover and buzz. I even just like being able to look down on Toy Story Mania while in the queue. @BrianLo
Brian Swan
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I'm guessing no. Maybe on overlook at the boarding area (as in iasw), but given the "immersive" nature of the boat ride, I doubt they will want riders to be able to see a queue for a different ride, and as lighting will be critical to the boat ride, I doubt that want any light "spillage" from a queue area. "Could" they do something with well-disguised one-way windows or "peep holes"? Probably, but I don't see what their motivation to do so would be.
articos
Well-Known Member
Can't answer this. Sorry. I do love when you can get a glimpse, too, though.
doctornick
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@articos do you know if the ride system for Na'vi River Journey is the same as the Shanghai POTC ride which allows the boats to change speed and directions?
doctornick
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It depends on how such a view is handled, but I don't think you can appreciate the train (while riding on Splash) or the view of Garden Grill (when riding LWTL). These kinds of views can be designed to be hidden away from the direction of the people riding the ride and not interfere. The queue could potentially be darker in such an area to avoid light leak and get a better view of the bio-luminescence of the boat ride show scenes.
Anyway, if you look at the leaked blueprints and follow the main/longer queue, there is a rectangular area that the queue winds around near the bottom of the queue. That would be in an area above the boat ride. Seems to me that it is possible that it could be a view down into a boat ride show scene. Of course, maybe it's just a support area or something.
BrianLo
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I have no evidence to support one way or the other.
The Flight of Passage queue is very, very intriguing... Really that attraction is in general, which people frequently write off as Soarin' 2.0
Tom
Beta Return
I imagine the boat ride will require extreme control of ambient lighting, and as such, having any sort of viewing portal could interfere with the theatrics that will be used.
Not to mention the 100% guarantee of people throwing things if they're able to look down into the ride.
I don't see any "sneak peeks" happening.
Not to mention the 100% guarantee of people throwing things if they're able to look down into the ride.
I don't see any "sneak peeks" happening.
Cesar R M
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I think they mean the finale scene from splash, that you can see from the Train (aka the chickens dancing on the boat scene)It depends on how such a view is handled, but I don't think you can appreciate the train (while riding on Splash) or the view of Garden Grill (when riding LWTL). These kinds of views can be designed to be hidden away from the direction of the people riding the ride and not interfere. The queue could potentially be darker in such an area to avoid light leak and get a better view of the bio-luminescence of the boat ride show scenes.
Anyway, if you look at the leaked blueprints and follow the main/longer queue, there is a rectangular area that the queue winds around near the bottom of the queue. That would be in an area above the boat ride. Seems to me that it is possible that it could be a view down into a boat ride show scene. Of course, maybe it's just a support area or something.
doctornick
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Yes, I know the scene. When you are riding on Splash, you don't see the steam train or it's rails -- you have to make an effort to look that direction to appreciate it. I think the same thing could occur with Na'vi River Journey in that they could orient any "window" from the Flight of Passage queue to not be able to be seen when riding the boat ride. It wouldn't really be that difficult if that is what they want to do.
djkidkaz
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That's good though because it means people's expectations are low and most will end up thinking it's better than they expected.
articos
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Not something I can answer, but if you were to have a new ride system that's pretty nifty, it would make a lot of sense to show it off, right?
Figment2005
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The hardest part would be preventing noise pollution from the queue into the boat ride. I think the light levels would be similar so that would not be a problem. Besides I wouldn't expect a large opening, but more like if you look through the canopy the guests in the queue could catch glimpses of the ride below.