700 with three attractions including the coaster E.
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cjkeating
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I always felt like the $700m tag included any additional developments in the park which we are seeing far more than I imagined. Was money shifted in additional AK experiences (after the loss of the Avatar coaster and/or additional Avatar attractions) or was their already an additional budget above the $700m for Rivers of Light and capacity improvements?
doctornick
Well-Known Member
Can you clarify: Are you saying he budget for Pandora was originally $700M and it was cut to $200-300M? Or are you saying it was cut by $200-300M (i.e. is now $400-500M)?
The latter seems more consistent with the rumors we have heard.
sshindel
The Epcot Manifesto
Based on the new art/model, do we assume that the piece of concrete in front of the E ticket is the rock work that hides the show building, and the place where it rounds off near the (likely) boat ride is the mountain with the waterfalls on the left of the concept art, likely to be a main support for the floating mountains?
ThemeParkTraveller
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$200-300 Million for the entire land seems like a low figure considering the proposed scale and detail. As pointed out above, that's roughly the cost of just Radiator Springs Racers.
700 then cut to 4-500.
doctornick
Well-Known Member
Thank you, that makes more sense to me. $400-500M should be enough to make a great land, but the problem is WDI's inflated budgets.
Fsunolekrw
Active Member
I know some people have mentioned that the boat ride has been changed/scaled back from its original design. Does anyone know if this is true and if so what kind of changes are we talking about? Like the difference between Kali River Rapids original design and what we ended up with or something less drastic?
sshindel
The Epcot Manifesto
From what I remember, I don't know if anyone has seen concrete updated plans that prove the boat path has been changed, just that the concrete pad/base for what we all assume is the boat ride doesn't line up (yet) with what they've seen on the original leaked plans.
I could be wrong on that though.
danlb_2000
Premium Member
You are correct. The leaked plans focused on the Soarin ride so it's very possible that the details of the boat ride shown on those plans were never intended to show the actual final design, just a representation of what was planned to go in that part of the building.
msteel
Well-Known Member
I believe the spot marked in Green in the aerial is a concrete pumping crane making a pour on the wall thing.
I've got to admit I liked the earlier concept art better. Now that Disney is using some sloppy, color coded mess that is clearly visible to every guest, it just looks terrible. I don't even think there was a Rog or Roger in the movie. Even worse than the ceiling tiles in IaSW. Bad show Disney, bad show.
sshindel
The Epcot Manifesto
Oh, I guess you hadn't heard. They are teaming up with one of their former voice actors to be our "Avatar" in our experience on Pandora. Meet Rog the Na'vi
Cesar R M
Well-Known Member
that would be a stupid loss.
since the immersion is what would sell the land.
the bioluminescent is one of the critical parts (the flying rocks, the giant tree too)
Cesar R M
Well-Known Member
speaking of the pizzafari area.. its my imagination or they might add another bridge?
if Avatar land becomes a sure hit. all the traffic going only from africa (harambe theatre area) and pizzafari might be not enough.
Discovery Island already gets packed to hell.
ahem, except that .. for carslands.. radiator springs is critical.
Its like building Asia with no EE.
no EE = overglorified zoo.
Cesar R M
Well-Known Member
ThemeParkTraveller
Well-Known Member
I agree that it's a pretty sizeable budget cut, but my post was actually referring to the $200-300 million figure as the amount to build the whole land (before marni1971 clarified that the budget was cut by that amount, not to that amount).
Atomicmickey
Well-Known Member
Sometimes I wish I didn't know about budget cuts. Think about it. 99.999% percent of
people will just visit the land, and not think about how it could have been a third bigger
and better. Whatever that would mean. Here we are, discussing a thing that we've never
seen, don't know the details of, and bemoaning the fact that it won't be. More money
doesn't always equal better. Yes, a coaster would have been cool. Very cool. OK, now
I'm sad again. Or happy. Or something. Sigh, the life of a Disney fan. LOL.
people will just visit the land, and not think about how it could have been a third bigger
and better. Whatever that would mean. Here we are, discussing a thing that we've never
seen, don't know the details of, and bemoaning the fact that it won't be. More money
doesn't always equal better. Yes, a coaster would have been cool. Very cool. OK, now
I'm sad again. Or happy. Or something. Sigh, the life of a Disney fan. LOL.
sshindel
The Epcot Manifesto
I'm fairly convinced that is part of the reason why there are quite a few who miss the way Disney "used" to do things. We just didn't know what it was we were missing out on, or the politics behind it, or any other reasons. We just went and said "I like that, I like that, I don't like that, I like that".
Now we spend all day discussing these things online, we know what imagineer was shafted because he was in the wrong clique, the grand designs that never came to fruition because of the decision of some person in management and we walk around wondering what could have been.
Of course, it's a double edged sword, because we want to know all these things, and it has become part of the way we enjoy Disney as a company and product.