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sshindel

The Epcot Manifesto
the only thing in WDW that needs to open the building roof to work on/replace, IIRC, is the huge sheet panes in HM for the Peppers' ghost effect in the ballroom.
Ahh, it was @marni1971 s video. I see what I was thinking of:

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marni1971

Park History nut
Premium Member
So who do we believe @marni1971 or @marni1971's video? ;)
That video description was a bit ambiguous wasn't it.

The Horizons screens framework for the room itself was installed before the roof; the actual screen structure itself was long after. But Horizons was a different beast than Avland. The main support core (and elevator shaft, stairwell, HVAC and the like) for the whole building was part of the Omnimax area. Better look at something like Soarin for comparison to what's being built today.
 

sshindel

The Epcot Manifesto
That video description was a bit ambiguous wasn't it.

The Horizons screens framework for the room itself was installed before the roof; the actual screen structure itself was long after. But Horizons was a different beast than Avland. The main support core (and elevator shaft, stairwell, HVAC and the like) for the whole building was part of the Omnimax area. Better look at something like Soarin for comparison to what's being built today.
I just like pretending that every ride they build is going to actually turn out to be Horizons instead of what they say they're building :)
 

Rob562

Well-Known Member
You would not believe the debate I had with my architect bf the other night when I showed him the pictures of the steel going up. He couldn't wrap his head around why they would completely assemble the steel for the central core of the building to its full height and then build the outer walls, rather than build all of it up at the same time. He kept trying to insist that the core was it, that the building wouldn't be any bigger.

Sat there going back and forth between the leaked blueprints, the latest aerials and the newest pic from the bus road showing the southern wall going up.

I tried to tell him that themed attraction buildings are a totally different beast than the biomedical stuff he's used to designing. ;)

The top level of steel in the core appearing blue in the aerials was also a head-scratcher for him... I said that in the past they've often had coatings on steel in areas that would be exposed to water features like waterfalls.

Edit: Of course I wouldn't put it past my bf to have realized his mistake yet decided to continue arguing his side because he could see how passionate I was about it and he knew it'd push my buttons. ;)

-Rob
 
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twebber55

Well-Known Member
You would not believe the debate I had with my architect bf the other night when I showed him the pictures of the steel going up. He couldn't wrap his head around why they would completely assemble the steel for the central core of the building to its full height and then build the outer walls, rather than build all of it up at the same time. He kept trying to insist that the core was it, that the building wouldn't be any bigger.

Sat there going back and forth between the leaked blueprints, the latest aerials and the newest pic from the bus road showing the southern wall going up.

I tried to tell him that themed attraction buildings are a totally different beast than the biomedical stuff he's used to designing. ;)

The top level of steel in the core appearing blue in the aerials was also a head-scratcher for him... I said that in the past they've often had coatings on steel in areas that would be exposed to water features like waterfalls.

-Rob
Rob thanks for this post
im now more confused than ever
 

speile

New Member
New You would not believe the debate I had with my architect bf the other night when I showed him the pictures of the steel going up. He couldn't wrap his head around why they would completely assemble the steel for the central core of the building to its full height and then build the outer walls, rather than build all of it up at the same time. He kept trying to insist that the core was it, that the building wouldn't be any bigger.

Sat there going back and forth between the leaked blueprints, the latest aerials and the newest pic from the bus road showing the southern wall going up.

I tried to tell him that themed attraction buildings are a totally different beast than the biomedical stuff he's used to designing. ;)

The top level of steel in the core appearing blue in the aerials was also a head-scratcher for him... I said that in the past they've often had coatings on steel in areas that would be exposed to water features like waterfalls.

Edit: Of course I wouldn't put it past my bf to have realized his mistake yet decided to continue arguing his side because he could see how passionate I was about it and he knew it'd push my buttons. ;)

-Rob

It may well be because the dynamics of the ride that may cause the central structure to reverberate, and hence the outer shell needs to be separate, due to structural , rather than architectural reasons. Like how the yeti, ride and mountain are all independent structures on Everest.
 

danlb_2000

Premium Member
It may well be because the dynamics of the ride that may cause the central structure to reverberate, and hence the outer shell needs to be separate, due to structural , rather than architectural reasons. Like how the yeti, ride and mountain are all independent structures on Everest.

I think it's just a case of the design of the ride. The ride requires four large open spaces for each of the four theaters so the central core doesn't connect to the outside walls except at the four points between the theater. The plans do show the core going all the way to the outside wall at those points.
 

matt9112

Well-Known Member
I am not really seeing any place where the boat ride could possible leave the concrete area. What we still don't know is how much of that area will be enclosed in a building.

There appears to be a lot of space between the ride and the façade, but remember they haven't actually built the outside wall of the show building yet. I have marked where that will go with a red line.

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is all the raw internal steel in that shot part of that movie ride system thing we saw?
 

kap91

Well-Known Member
The tale was that Cameron was being hardnosed during the negotiations, then Disney announced the Lucas Deal. Suddenly, seeing as how he was about to get kicked to the back burner, Cameron decided to play nice.

Personally, the fewer roller coasters at Disney the better. Let every other theme park on earth have those.

Also from what has been previously said, the budget for the land remains the same despite no coaster. All indications have been their goal is to hit it out if the park with the other two attractions.
 

matt9112

Well-Known Member
Personally, the fewer roller coasters at Disney the better. Let every other theme park on earth have those.

Also from what has been previously said, the budget for the land remains the same despite no coaster. All indications have been their goal is to hit it out if the park with the other two attractions.

Although I don't entirely disagree with you some coasters have place. EE even without yeti is fantastic and a great addition...rock and roll Rollercoaster although showing it's age is another good one with some decent pre show elements. Across the road the hulk even wit minimal theming is fantastic and doesn't feel out of place.
 

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