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[SJN1279]

First, the decision to put Potter in both parks was not in Universal's hands. That was A JKR sticking point from day 1.



You assume Gringotts is not family friendly, which is not the case. There was a mandate to make the ride considerably more family friendly. Also, Hogwarts Express will have no height requirement.

Gringotts has a height limit and will have coaster elements. It is not a ride for the entire family.

The Hogwarts Express can't have a height requirement because it is transportation between two parks. Without a hopper, you can't ride it. If your kids don't enjoy monster attacks, you are in for one long ride.

 

[danlb_2000]

while I think they have done a great job expanding and adding new attractions... I think they are starting to put too much in Harry Potter. That is now what everyone relates to Uni... I personally am not a Harry Potter fan... I know many are... but when you start to build sections/lands in both parks now with a harry potter ride (sorta) linking them together... well...I just think they are trying to continue squeezing the toothpaste as hard as they can to get out every last drop (can't blame them, it is a business after all). Everything they do from now on though will be compared to what they did with Harry Potterland... Springfield is just an imaginationless expanded Mickey's Toontown themed to the Simpsons they are past their prime

So you do think Disney should expand Star Wars at DHS? DHS already has Star Tours, Jedi Training Academy, Tatooine Traders, not to mention the Star Wars weekends.

 

[Voxel]

So you do think Disney should expand Star Wars at DHS? DHS already has Star Tours, Jedi Training Academy, Tatooine Traders, not to mention the Star Wars weekends.

While I understand the point your trying to say here, I think what he means is that Spreading the same theme across two parks is different then having a large area dedicated to a theme.

 

[WDWDad13]

So you do think Disney should expand Star Wars at DHS? DHS already has Star Tours, Jedi Training Academy, Tatooine Traders, not to mention the Star Wars weekends.

I don't think they should build Star Wars Land in DHS and turn around and do Star Wars Land 2 (to expand it) in EPCOT

 

[GLaDOS]

while I think they have done a great job expanding and adding new attractions... I think they are starting to put too much in Harry Potter. That is now what everyone relates to Uni... I personally am not a Harry Potter fan... I know many are... but when you start to build sections/lands in both parks now with a harry potter ride (sorta) linking them together... well...I just think they are trying to continue squeezing the toothpaste as hard as they can to get out every last drop (can't blame them, it is a business after all). Everything they do from now on though will be compared to what they did with Harry Potterland... Springfield is just an imaginationless expanded Mickey's Toontown themed to the Simpsons they are past their prime

Good. Everything they do should be compared to WWoHP. It's their best work. Springfield is great for what it is. Transformers is another winner. If they keep comparing themselves to that there's no reason to worry.

Gringotts has a height limit and will have coaster elements. It is not a ride for the entire family.

What family are we talking about? Since when does the definition of the entire family have to mean "no height requirements"? Does that mean Big Thunder isn't a family ride? Space Mountain? Splash?

The Hogwarts Express can't have a height requirement because it is transportation between two parks. Without a hopper, you can't ride it. If your kids don't enjoy monster attacks, you are in for one long ride.

Haunted Mansion, Pirates, Snow White, Maelstrom, It's Tough to Be a Bug, Great Movie Ride, etc. All Disney rides that can be considered scary by some percentage of their riders. All have scary portions. Disney is so unfamily friendly, aren't they!?

 

[rd805]

I don't think they should build Star Wars Land in DHS and turn around and do Star Wars Land 2 (to expand it) in EPCOT

I just think they should build it. I don't mind where .

 

[GLaDOS]

While I understand the point your trying to say here, I think what he means is that Spreading the same theme across two parks is different then having a large area dedicated to a theme.

You're right. Disney should really close The Seas or Nemo the Musical. Or Toy Story Mania or Buzz Lightyear. Or BatB musical or Be Our Guest. Or Voyage of the Little Mermaid or the new ride. Or one of the 4 spinners in MK.

 

[magicallactose]

To clarify, we're talking about glasses-less 3D for the Potter train, right? Not Soarin over Pandora?

Yes, the Hogwarts Express. It was a very lengthy, detailed post about both the Gringott's dark ride and the Express.

 

[Voxel]

You're right. Disney should really close The Seas or Nemo the Musical. Or Toy Story Mania or Buzz Lightyear. Or BatB musical or Be Our Guest. Or Voyage of the Little Mermaid or the new ride. Or one of the 4 spinners in MK.

Calm down. Having a ride and having a entire THEME area are two different things. I am trying to be a voice of reason no need to jump down my throat.

 

[WDWDad13]

You're right. Disney should really close The Seas or Nemo the Musical. Or Toy Story Mania or Buzz Lightyear. Or BatB musical or Be Our Guest. Or Voyage of the Little Mermaid or the new ride. Or one of the 4 spinners in MK.

haha.. nice try there... 1 character within a show or attraction is not the same as a land with multiple attractions spread across 2 parks

 

[GLaDOS]

haha.. nice try there... 1 character within a show or attraction is not the same as a land with multiple attractions spread across 2 parks

It's irrelevant. As long as it's great, people don't care.

 

[Bairstow]

while I think they have done a great job expanding and adding new attractions... I think they are starting to put too much in Harry Potter. That is now what everyone relates to Uni... I personally am not a Harry Potter fan... I know many are... but when you start to build sections/lands in both parks now with a harry potter ride (sorta) linking them together... well...I just think they are trying to continue squeezing the toothpaste as hard as they can to get out every last drop (can't blame them, it is a business after all). Everything they do from now on though will be compared to what they did with Harry Potterland... Springfield is just an imaginationless expanded Mickey's Toontown themed to the Simpsons they are past their prime

Some fictional worlds are rich enough to support entire theme parks.
They could easily have built an entire theme park out of the Harry Potter mythology. Same goes for Jurassic Park, Star Wars, Lord of the Rings, and probably Toy Story.

 

[Voxel]

If you want my Honest opinion, while I think its a neat idea to have the train hop guest from park to park. I wish that "London" would have been build in IOA with the train running to the back half of the park to Hogwarts.

But marketing wise what Universal has done is brilliant. Many kids will say I wanna to Harry Potter, parent will be more likely to buy a 2park 1 day pass or 2 day pass so they can see all of Harry Potter.

 

[marni1971]

Gringotts has a height limit and will have coaster elements. It is not a ride for the entire family.

The Hogwarts Express can't have a height requirement because it is transportation between two parks. Without a hopper, you can't ride it. If your kids don't enjoy monster attacks, you are in for one long ride.

And that's a problem why? If the kids won't do Hogwarts you do what you have to do today.

Gringotts is not a coaster. It will be thrilling - stunningly so - but the coaster elements are being heavily overplayed. The restraints are needed for other reasons.

 

[marni1971]

It's irrelevant. As long as it's great, people don't care.

Quoted for truth.

 

[WDWDad13]

It's irrelevant. As long as it's great, people don't care.

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they might when they run out of room and 2/3rd of the park is HP

 

[orky8]

I don't think they should build Star Wars Land in DHS and turn around and do Star Wars Land 2 (to expand it) in EPCOT

The difference is Universal is building a high quality, thematically appropriate attraction linking the two lands. If Disney were to do Star Wars Land 2 in Epcot (well, let's say AK, because that makes more sense), and linked the two with a star tours type attraction that actually moved and took you to the forest of Endor at Animal Kingdom (which is as thematically appropriate as Avatarland), then I think we would all be applauding Disney. And if doing so got more people to spend money on park hoppers, I'd say good for Disney.

I'm not a Uni fanboy. Like you (I think), I much prefer the magic and IP of Disney. BUT, Uni is the only one stepping up to the plate right now and building quality attractions. It's not really Uni versus Disney, its Disney vs Disney and Disney is still losing -- it's not living up to its own potential, while its competitor is bringing its A game.

(As an aside, I think New Fantasyland is quality and shows what Disney is capable of doing, but it is the ONLY thing in Disney has done in a decade at a resort with three parks that are in desperate need of more attractions and updates).

 

[WDWDad13]

The difference is Universal is building a high quality, thematically appropriate attraction linking the two lands. If Disney were to do Star Wars Land 2 in Epcot (well, let's say AK, because that makes more sense), and linked the two with a star tours type attraction that actually moved and took you to the forest of Endor at Animal Kingdom (which is as thematically appropriate as Avatarland), then I think we would all be applauding Disney. And if doing so got more people to spend money on park hoppers, I'd say good for Disney.

I'm not a Uni fanboy. Like you (I think), I much prefer the magic and IP of Disney. BUT, Uni is the only one stepping up to the plate right now and building quality attractions. It's not really Uni versus Disney, its Disney vs Disney and Disney is still losing -- it's not living up to its own potential, while its competitor is bringing its A game.

(As an aside, I think New Fantasyland is quality and shows what Disney is capable of doing, but it is the ONLY thing in Disney has done in a decade at a resort with three parks that are in desperate need of more attractions and updates).

I agree with most of what you say... except for the fact that if Disney had done with Uni is doing and one up'ed them... there would still be people complaining about it on here

 

[marni1971]

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they might when they run out of room and 2/3rd of the park is HP

Bit of an exaggeration isn't it?

 

[marni1971]

I agree with most of what you say... except for the fact that if Disney had done with Uni is doing and one up'ed them... there would still be people complaining about it on here

I wish they had. I honestly do. And I'd be amongst the first to shout it from the rooftops.