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Disneyhead'71

Disneyhead'71

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Voxel said:
Dude, no need to have a snarky attitude with me either, I was just stating a logical statement. If you follow the definition of a Motion Simulator you would see that a Motion Platform is under the same definition. Spider-man and Transformers are Motion-Based Simulators, or Motion platforms on a roving base. So under the broad category of motion simulators they would be included. In fact both are communally called motion simulators.

http://www.mirror.co.uk/lifestyle/travel/usa-long-haul/transformers-ride-3d-best-theme-1975864
http://themeparks.about.com/od/univ...sformers-Ride-at-Universal-Studios-Review.htm

For spiderman:
  • First ever combination of moving, motion-based ride vehicles, 3-D film and live action
And finally under a list of Simulator rides both attractions are included.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Simulator_ride
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I wasn't being snarky with you. I was agreeing with you. But I will say that because a ride uses sim tech, that doesn't mean all they are is a sim ride. To call Forbidden Journey a "Simulator" is simply factually incorrect.
 
Voxel

Voxel

President of Progress City
Disneyhead'71 said:
I wasn't being snarky with you. I was agreeing with you. But I will say that because a ride uses sim tech, that doesn't mean all they are is a sim ride. To call Forbidden Journey a "Simulator" is simply factually incorrect.
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I apologize for the one comment then. Its already deleted. :). I miss understood your context, which I do commonly via internet. I will agree that FJ is not a simulator, its no where close.
 
RSoxNo1

RSoxNo1

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SJN1279 said:
Transformers takes you from screen to screen. It has no sets or show pieces. It also lacks humor, a coherent storyline, and a musical score. It made me feel like I was stuck in the violent video game that Wreck-It Ralph made fun of.

That said, I love The Simpsons , and have yet to ride Despicable Me.
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"It lacks humor"? Since when do rides have to be funny?
 
RSoxNo1

RSoxNo1

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Bairstow said:
...or when was the last time Disney built an E-ticket as a buffer for the incoming crowd crush from an upcoming expansion?
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They tried to do it in 1998 but failed (Test Track failed to open before Animal Kingdom). They successfully did it in 1989 prior to the opening of MGM with expansion at both Magic Kingdom (Mickey's Birthdayland) and Norway/Wonders of Life in Epcot.
 
Disneyhead'71

Disneyhead'71

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Transformers was never intended to be brought to Orlando. They wanted to bring Spider-man to Hollywood. But because of Universal's monitary situation it didn't happen prior to Disney's Marvel acquistion. So they reconfigured then ride system to a different IP.
After Potter profits Universal found themselves in a situation where they had a $100 Millon dollar tax bill. They either had to reinvest it or hand it over to Uncle Sam. So since Transformers was a plug and play attraction, they dropped it along with Cabana Bay into the resort essentually for free. And Transformers served as a great stop gap until Potter 2.0.
I'll take a state of the art E-Ticket over flushing $100M anyday. Disney wishes they had those kinds of problems
 
ford91exploder

ford91exploder

Resident Curmudgeon
A ride with set pieces, AA's and projection could be awesome as each has it's strength, Look at the Aladdin sequence in Philharmagic - You feel as though you are actually flying even though you are firmly fixed to the ground. For AA's Hall of Presidents, for set pieces Haunted Mansion.

Imagine an attraction which used ALL THREE to optimum advantage.
 
TubaGeek

TubaGeek

God bless the "Ignore" button.
marni1971 said:
And please, there are set pieces a plenty. Some more impressive than Spiderman where they were specifically designed to blend into the screen.
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I still find Spidey superior because it actually has MOVING set pieces. The most impressive effect of either attraction, I feel, is how naturally the fire escape ladder falls under Spider-Man's weight and bounces back up once he webs away. Not to mention Spider-Man has actual pyro on it.
 
jt04

jt04

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Just trying to visually this and the potential. Truly capable of surpassing potter. And I expect some of this technology will eventually find its way into attractions depicting a galaxy far far away.

2017 can't get here soon enough. Not to mention December 2015. ;)
 
SJN1279

SJN1279

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Voxel said:
No, thats how they are gonna do the Dementors on the train ;)
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Dementors on a train. That will go over well with under 5 set having to travel from park to park. Maybe Disney should add a monster attack to the monorail ride to Epcot?
 
Disneyhead'71

Disneyhead'71

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ford91exploder said:
A ride with set pieces, AA's and projection could be awesome as each has it's strength, Look at the Aladdin sequence in Philharmagic - You feel as though you are actually flying even though you are firmly fixed to the ground. For AA's Hall of Presidents, for set pieces Haunted Mansion.

Imagine an attraction which used ALL THREE to optimum advantage.
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I believe the best approximation to date would be Harry Potter and the Forbidden Journey. Sim tech: Then 3 dome screen carosels. AAs: the dragon, dementors, and whomping willow. Set pieces: Observatory, covered bridge, and Chamber of Secrets.
 
SJN1279

SJN1279

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Bairstow said:
Don't forget Potter.



It's also tough being a theme park fan that appreciates actual animatronics and sets.

At the most basic level, riding a modern dark ride is starting to resemble walking down the TV aisle at Target.

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At least Toy Story Mania and Star Tours have animatronics to go along with the screens.
 
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doctornick

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MarkTwain said:
This is accurate from what I'm hearing. Although I don't know exactly how similar the ride will be to Soarin', I do know that the proposed ride is a kind of suspended simulator and is already being tested.
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Hypothetically: couldn't that still describe something like the "Pandora's Box" tech where the vehicle moves from space to place?

The scuttlebutt around here a while back was that the leaked plans with a "plussed" Soarin' ride were outdated and the "updated" plans has ride vehicles that moved through physical space. @Tim_4 brought it up and @pheneix seemed to agree with him (pheneix was the one who leaked the Avatar plans here to begin with). This new news article seems to use those "old" blueprints as the basis for the ride description, so I'm curious if that is back -- or if it never went away. I'd be curious if either of them could comment on what they have heard or any of the other insiders on these boards.

MarkTwain said:
What I find interesting is that the Avatar project has its own private building at Imagineering headquarters, due to James Cameron's insistence for more privacy on the project. The building requires key-code access preventing even most Imagineers from entering the building unless they're assigned to the project. Apparently the project has already accrued a small fortune in development costs.

Seems like overkill for what essentially is a duplicate of technology developed 12+ years ago.
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If this is true, wouldn't it be likely something significantly more than what Niles suggests in the article from the OP of this thread? Would they go to that much trouble and expense if the ride is only a small variation from Soarin'?

Furthermore, Cameron doesn't strike me as someone who will "settle" for having an uninspiring ride be the centerpiece of his land. If he's been reduced to 2 rides (and general theming of the land), I think he will make them count. And I certainly think Rohde would be supportive of making any attractions for Pandora be high quality and not value engineered to death.
 
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Disneyhead'71

Disneyhead'71

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SJN1279 said:
It is a dressed up commuter train to the other park. It should be a 100 percent family-friendly attraction.
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No! It should stay true to the source. Yes, the ride system is used as a cummuter train around the world. But it's application@UOR is a state of the art Harry Potter attraction. The Hogwarts Express was attacked twice by dementors in the book series so it is canon if it happens here.

And dressed up is an understatement. Never before seen parallaxes glassesless 3D projections is kind of cool.

just sayin'

But keep tryin '.
 
lazyboy97o

lazyboy97o

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Turtle said:
Universal builds its fifth simulator-based attraction --- Universal is doing big amazing things taking a change Disney doesn't dare to do!Disney builds its third simulator-based attraction --- OH MY GOD TDO ALWAYS REPEATS ITSELF
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  1. Mission to Mars
  2. Star Tours
  3. Body Wars
  4. Wonder Cycles
  5. Mission: SPACE
  6. Soarin'
  7. Toy Story Midway Mania!
  8. Star Tours: The Adventures Continue
 
raymusiccity

raymusiccity

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Disneyhead'71 said:
The Harry Potter series of books isn't for toddlers. The Hogwarts Express is a $100 million state of the art attraction, not a local commuter train.
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Well, it's actually a simulation of a train, being pulled back and forth by cables; with a bunch of video screens that will rapidly fill up with grimy handprints and remnants of butter-beer. I can only imagine what kind of abuse will be inflicted by the hoards during the Halloween Horror Nights.
 

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