Automated monorail system update

[GrumpyFan]

How many more facts like that are "hiding" from me?

All of them!

Oh dear. Really?

Thales were the contractor for Manchesters LRT signalling and control upgrade. After years of errors it's ended in the courts.

It was pure speculation. Upon further thought, it may just be an upgrade to MAPO to a more advanced system. Of course, this could transition and be used for an automated system, but I don't know anything official. In regards to the Manchester LRT situation though, I would hope their software has improved since then to resolve many of the issues.

 

[PeterAlt]

Phase one beams were originally. Later they were pressed on site. Disney actually purchased the pressing plant to do any future expansions cheaper themselves in house and on property.

Stop teasing me with bits and pieces of information I had no clue about! You started this one. So, please finish the story! What happened?

Also, the sale to Bombardier was mentioned. My info on this is very sketchy to say the least. When exactly was this? What other information about it do you know? Details! Please....

 

[PeterAlt]

All of them!

Facts often confuse me. I love them to death yet they're the source of all my frustrations and aggravations. Facts are things I am often forced to deal with. Facts are often moody. Not sure if they're friends or enemies.

 

[danlb_2000]

Another permit today that might be related to this project. This one expires in July 2014.

MK Entrance Station, Monorail Station, GF Monorail Platform, Poly Monorail Station, TTC, Epcot Monorail Station - Electrical - Train Control System

 

[PhotoDave219]

What is the incremental expense to upgrade the trains for automation ?

Two trains, one tragic death and a negotiated settlement with the NTSB.

 

[George]

Facts often confuse me. I love them to death yet they're the source of all my frustrations and aggravations. Facts are things I am often forced to deal with. Facts are often moody. Not sure if they're friends or enemies.

Frenemies?

 

[PeterAlt]

Frenemies?

Could be...

 

[PeterAlt]

Another permit today that might be related to this project. This one expires in July 2014.

MK Entrance Station, Monorail Station, GF Monorail Platform, Poly Monorail Station, TTC, Epcot Monorail Station - Electrical - Train Control System

Yay! That Little Engine that I Knew Could! That's you done did!

 

[danlb_2000]

Yay! That Little Engine that I Knew Could! That's you done did!

Huh?

 

[Uncle Remus]

Facts often confuse me. I love them to death yet they're the source of all my frustrations and aggravations. Facts are things I am often forced to deal with. Facts are often moody. Not sure if they're friends or enemies.

And here I thought all this time that the facts were in fact facts.

 

[Uncle Remus]

Fact......facts...sounds like.....tracks.....train tracks!..monorail!

 

[PeterAlt]

And here I thought all this time that the facts were in fact facts.

No, those are faxes not facts!

 

[PeterAlt]

Fact......facts...sounds like.....tracks.....train tracks!..monorail!

Whoa, hey now!

 

[PeterAlt]

Huh?

N/m... It made sense when I typed it. It no longer makes any sense.

 

[ford91exploder]

This is the kind of fact that I didn't know, should have known about, need to know, and wish I had known about. How many more facts like that are "hiding" from me?

Not hiding it's just if you are not a civil engineer you are not likely to be looking in the right places, one of the PM's at my shop is a civil engineer with a stamp and everything and he would routinely amaze me by finding stuff which I had no idea existed for construction projects.

 

[ford91exploder]

All of them!



It was pure speculation. Upon further thought, it may just be an upgrade to MAPO to a more advanced system. Of course, this could transition and be used for an automated system, but I don't know anything official. In regards to the Manchester LRT situation though, I would hope their software has improved since then to resolve many of the issues.

THALES is after all a defense contractor, So install hardware which is about 30% functional and then charge for fixing what should have worked in the first place

 

[wdwmagic]

Guys, let's keep this thread on subject. Thanks

 

[ford91exploder]

Big question is wired or wireless positive train control, I suspect it will be wireless but wired has reliability advantages that wireless does not, And it's been around since the 1930's when the GG1's had cab signal repeaters so the engineer had a duplicate of the upcoming signal in the cab of the GG1 on the NE corridor between DC and Boston, US speed record of 156 MPH was set by a GG1 before the Acela broke it.

 

[Bacalou]

N/m... It made sense when I typed it. It no longer makes any sense.

I think posting at 2:35am EST may have contributed too...

Big question is wired or wireless positive train control, I suspect it will be wireless but wired has reliability advantages that wireless does not, And it's been around since the 1930's when the GG1's had cab signal repeaters so the engineer had a duplicate of the upcoming signal in the cab of the GG1 on the NE corridor between DC and Boston, US speed record of 156 MPH was set by a GG1 before the Acela broke it.

The system Thales is installing is wired to the sensors and then wireless to the train. I posted a pretty good video which explains the system like the one being installed at WDW and is in use elsewhere.

The official project is classified as SelTrac CBTC/R – UTO. CBTC is "communications-based train control" and the UTO part is "Unattended Train Operation". You can take the information I posted yesterday as definite confirmation that Disney is and has begun the process of making their Monorails automatic (UTO).

Update: I just confirmed that the SelTrac CBTC/R - UTO system is in use on the Hong Kong Disneyland Resort Line.

 

[PeterAlt]

I take the expression "focus your train of thought" quite literally. I try to focus my thoughts on "train" whenever possible.