Ariel's Adventure (Little Mermaid E Ticket) CONFIRMED!

SirGoofy

Member
Midway Mania does use fastpass. It already has 80 minutes waits to begin with. I have never seen the issue with fastpass. I am a big believer in puttting it on every attraction that can handle it. What can it hurt anyways? Buzz is an omnimover and it has a fastpass. I am a little worried about the line at AA without fastpass, especially the first couple of years.

As for the gift shops, they never effect me because I walk straight through them. :lol:

There's really no need for OMni's to have fastpass.

Not should TSMM have fastpass.
 

The Conundrum

New Member
Where'd you hear this? :D


Good news, if true!:sohappy: HATE FP on Omni rides, save for Buzz. Then, I only use it to get through the Queue of Doom.:lol:

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Keep in mind though he has more authority in CA thats why they have really been cutting down on FP there. But in florida its an FP bonanza. Not sure if its been answered already but does the orlando version of Midway Mania use FP? because the DCA version does not use fastpass.
 

EPCOT Explorer

New Member
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Keep in mind though he has more authority in CA thats why they have really been cutting down on FP there. But in florida its an FP bonanza. Not sure if its been answered already but does the orlando version of Midway Mania use FP? because the DCA version does not use fastpass.

I should go there more often, but home is here. :eek: :lol:

It's too busy over there.


Interesting thought, I hope TDO (is that who gives out FP!?) takes a que from DCA.
 

SirGoofy

Member
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Keep in mind though he has more authority in CA thats why they have really been cutting down on FP there. But in florida its an FP bonanza. Not sure if its been answered already but does the orlando version of Midway Mania use FP? because the DCA version does not use fastpass.

Yes, WDW uses FP to disastrous results.
 

RSoxNo1

Well-Known Member
Yes, WDW uses FP to disastrous results.

See, I don't get that argument. I think it's a personality thing. I have no problem scheduling things, in fact when I get to a park, I'm the type of person that comes up with a plan in my head as soon as I have a times guide. It's flexible to a degree, but I've normally got a few different options in my head that I present to people that I'm with so they don't think I'm a psycho that has the whole day planned out. Fastpass contributes to this, it's another thing to juggle, but if used efficiently it's a very valuable tool.

I know people complain that it lengthens standby lines, but if you choose to use it, you will certainly save time over the course of your day. It certainly works better on some attractions than others, but I also hate to wait more than 1/2 an hour for any attraction. I would rarely see Toy Story Mania or Soarin' if it weren't for fast pass, and I feel that the poor implementation of it on these attractions has more to do with underestimating the capacity need vs. utilizing fast pass in these attractions.

Now I have never worked for the parks, so I don't know how many headaches the system causes on that end. I'm sure there are several people that can weigh in on that topic.
 

The Conundrum

New Member
Yes, WDW uses FP to disastrous results.

Further proof that WDW really needs its own John Lasseter. They need to bring in Matt Ouimet as president of WDW and bring back Eddie Sotto or Steve Kirk as the lead imagineer because Eric "I like interactive video screens and meet & greets" Jacobson isn't going to cut it.

Disneyland has top talent in the form of Tony Baxter overseeing Disneyland and Bob Weiss overseeing DCA with John Lasseter overseeing the whole property. No morons are gonna screw with those guys.
 

SirGoofy

Member
See, I don't get that argument. I think it's a personality thing. I have no problem scheduling things, in fact when I get to a park, I'm the type of person that comes up with a plan in my head as soon as I have a times guide. It's flexible to a degree, but I've normally got a few different options in my head that I present to people that I'm with so they don't think I'm a psycho that has the whole day planned out. Fastpass contributes to this, it's another thing to juggle, but if used efficiently it's a very valuable tool.

I know people complain that it lengthens standby lines, but if you choose to use it, you will certainly save time over the course of your day. It certainly works better on some attractions than others, but I also hate to wait more than 1/2 an hour for any attraction. I would rarely see Toy Story Mania or Soarin' if it weren't for fast pass, and I feel that the poor implementation of it on these attractions has more to do with underestimating the capacity need vs. utilizing fast pass in these attractions.

Oh I use fastpass. I use it all the time. But TSMM's are out an hour into park opening, and after that you're doomed to a 2 hour wait, which is ridiculous.

Now I have never worked for the parks, so I don't know how many headaches the system causes on that end. I'm sure there are several people that can weigh in on that topic.

It's definitely a headache for JC. We would be incredibly efficient if it wasn't for FP.
 

jakeman

Well-Known Member
Fastpass does not increase the average per guest wait time unless it decrease hourly ride capacity.

I don't usually flat out say people are wrong, but saying that Fastpass hinders the wait times at a ride is wrong and mathmatically impossible.

I would be highly surprised if TLM doesn't have a FP.
 

DisneyMusician2

Well-Known Member
I agree that no omnimover needs a FP.

That is the whole point of continuous loading. Seems that FP on a continuous loader simply messes up the system.

But I am not a believer that FP on other rides screws up the other line by more than 5 minutes.

I would personally like to see some hard evidence to that fact rather than the usual conjecture on the net.

Perhaps there are some UG researchers not doing anything right now...
 

jakeman

Well-Known Member
I agree that no omnimover needs a FP.

That is the whole point of continuous loading. Seems that FP on a continuous loader simply messes up the system.
As long as the merge point is prior to the point of loading so a continuous stream of guest are available to load it wouldn't be a problem.

I would personally like to see some hard evidence to that fact rather than the usual conjecture on the net.

Perhaps there are some UG researchers not doing anything right now...
There is none. At least none that we have access to.

I worked at Kilimanjaro Safaris when FP was implemented 10 years ago and our wait times decreased for the stand by line.

We would push 100-150 minutes first thing in the morning and would have the que extended out into Harambe, with switchbacks.

After Fastpass it would top out at about 70 minutes and didn't have to use the switchbacks anymore.
 

HMF

Well-Known Member
Further proof that WDW really needs its own John Lasseter. They need to bring in Matt Ouimet as president of WDW and bring back Eddie Sotto or Steve Kirk as the lead imagineer because Eric "I like interactive video screens and meet & greets" Jacobson isn't going to cut it.
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Forget WDW' Make Ouimet' Chairman of Parks & Resorts.
 

RSoxNo1

Well-Known Member
Agreed ... I never understood why they did that to Omni attractions.

To me the fact that an attraction is an omni-mover or not is irrelevant, the presence of fastpass should be based on hourly capacity and demand. Why should an omni-mover that's just as popular as Kilimanjaro Safaris not have fastpass while the Safaris does have fastpass? The Safaris can approach 3000 guests an hour.

Now it would take someone that works at the park to find out if dispatches/hourly capacity has decreased as a result of re-allocating attraction groupers to handle fastpass. If that's the case than it's a legitimate one for eliminating fastpass (or at least changing how it's used in certain queues).
 

EPCOT Explorer

New Member
Fastpass does not increase the average per guest wait time unless it decrease hourly ride capacity.

I don't usually flat out say people are wrong, but saying that Fastpass hinders the wait times at a ride is wrong and mathmatically impossible.

I would be highly surprised if TLM doesn't have a FP.

Only if they keep the lines merging. :dazzle: Which I doubt, seeing they NEVER do that. :lol:


*stares down Buzz*
 

_Scar

Active Member
Haunted mansion would go a lot faster if it weren't for the opening in the stretching. Sometimes I really hate that for what it does...

hold the line up.:fork:


But the stretching room is made of awesome!! I actually would want to wait in a 60 minute line for AA to admire the wonderful queue it will probably have.
 

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