Are people getting used to life without Disneyland?

[Stevek]

Always a good option! My brother has one, but I’ve never tried his out. Might have to do that soon.

Was it crowded? Or was it just the entire experience in general? I imagine that if crowds are manageable, you can grab something to eat, and walk around a bit, it wouldn’t be too bad.

Have you gone into DCA since it “reopened?”

It wasn't overly crowded when we got there. Took about 15 minutes to get through security. Waited around 30 minutes to get in to BV street. Did mobile order for Smokejumpers (the 2 beers each made it bearable). Was nice to be able to sit in DCA again but the lines to get into the shops on both sides + off the page were far longer than we were willing to wait. Don't get me started on World of Disney which went the full length of the store + the full length of the tram loading area. Then there was Disney Home which had a 90-120 minute wait.

So ultimately, while is wasn't crowded in the walkways, it was very crowded if you wanted to do any shopping. At the end of the day, there was no feeling of Disney Magic for us at all.

 

[Stevek]

It kind of scratched the itch when food and drinks where available. The last trip was just ridiculous.

Then again it’s not really scratching the Disney parks itch as much as it is just something to do.

Our first trip was fine. We had a great pizza at Naples + a couple beers and were able to get into a couple shops but not World of Disney. It was much more crowded that first time as well. This second time, not really enjoyable TBH.

 

[planodisney]

Not sure how this has anything to do with the topic. This is why we continue to get topics tagged “politics”.

You’re right!! Sorry!!
Posted this in wrong thread.

 

[mharrington]

If you are going to comment on article you should provide a link so others can read it for themselves. We don’t know any context or if it is a comment from a qualified source.

There are a number of reasons why someone would suggest people still wait to travel after vaccination. The approved Pfizer vaccine, the Moderna vaccine being reviewed today and several other candidates are all two shot vaccines with some erroneously referring to the second dose as a booster, implying it is not necessary. There is concern about making sure people get the second dose. A person who has received the first dose might believe they are immune.

Second, immunity is not immediate. The full immunity comes several days after the second dose.

Third, and probably the most important in the near term while vaccinations are low and cases are high, is that the ability of an inoculated person to spread SARS-CoV-2 has not been studied and is not known. Being vaccinated will reduce how much the virus replicates in your body but it is not know how much a vaccinated person can shed and if it is enough to infect another person.

Here's the article I was referring to: .

 

[planodisney]

Only responding to the part that loosely pertains to this thread: No, there will be no massive exodus from California. People have been saying this will happen for decades now, and it hasn't. Market forces will prevail, and even if enough people actually did leave California, the only result would be a lowering of housing prices that would encourage people to stay.

All that is to say that, if enough people actually did leave California, maybe Disneyland would be slightly more tolerable crowd wise. Maybe.

Are you kidding? This isn’t conjecture anymore. It’s a fact and new stories come out virtually everyday.
Let me link a couple articles for you.

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California Exodus: An online industry seizes COVID-19 to sell the Red State Dream

Beyond conservative Facebook memes and YouTube videos, has California reached a breaking point that's accelerating an exodus?

calmatters.org

California’s corporate residents hit the road for business-friendly alternatives

Big corporations are kissing California goodbye for states that are more business friendly.

www.google.com

 

[Californian Elitist]

Are you kidding? This isn’t conjecture anymore. It’s a fact and new stories come out virtually everyday.
Let me link a couple articles for you.

Redirect Notice

California Exodus: An online industry seizes COVID-19 to sell the Red State Dream

Beyond conservative Facebook memes and YouTube videos, has California reached a breaking point that's accelerating an exodus?

calmatters.org

California’s corporate residents hit the road for business-friendly alternatives

Big corporations are kissing California goodbye for states that are more business friendly.

www.google.com

Please move your California discussion to the politics sub-forum. Many of the threads here have gotten political for no good reason.

 

[planodisney]

I could go on and on with those links. From local
California news organizations to national publications. The number of Californians migrating just to Texas is almost 100,000 per year. The people leaving is one thing but the businesses and corporations leaving at current rates is very troubling. Tesla and Oracle are just the companies that made headlines but there are many others.

 

[planodisney]

Please move your California discussion to the politics sub-forum. Many of the threads here have gotten political for no good reason.

 

[Mac Tonight]

Are people getting used to life without Disneyland??

In the same way that they're getting used to life with:
-mask wearing
-no longer eating indoors (in CA at least)
-social distancing
... I'd say, yes.

But, as with those other three things, I daresay no one is enjoying that life. Unless you are enjoying that life, in which case... actually, no, I'm not going to get into that...

Also, and I'm sorry, this is directed at no one in particular, but I just have to wonder sometimes why people who are "over" Disneyland and visiting the parks, still willingly post around here.

 

[Californian Elitist]

Also, and I'm sorry, this is directed at no one in particular, but I just have to wonder sometimes why people who are "over" Disneyland and visiting the parks, still willingly post around here.

Just because some of us don’t go to the parks as much as we used to, it doesn’t mean we’ve lost interest in discussing the parks and the company in general. There is no correlation between the two. We’ve got people here who’ve never visited the parks and post here.

I don’t think any of us have claimed to stop going permanently. We just don’t go as often.

 

[mickEblu]

Another reason I love DL is because it’s one of the few places where I really leave all my worries behind at the front gate. Really shows the genius of Disneyland. It feels so far removed from the real world that I’m able to do that there. Just look at the percentage of people you see picking trash or at the very least cleaning up after themselves. Of course that’s also a Testament to the cleanliness of the park as people are more inclined to try to keep clean things clean.

 

[Travel Junkie]

I could go on and on with those links. From local
California news organizations to national publications. The number of Californians migrating just to Texas is almost 100,000 per year. The people leaving is one thing but the businesses and corporations leaving at current rates is very troubling. Tesla and Oracle are just the companies that made headlines but there are many others.

The LA Times has two nearly identical headlines basically saying residents fleeing California in droves. One article is from 2011 and the other 2007. I remember my Dad reading an article in the 1990's about how everyone was moving out of California.

I've have heard that the state was dying and get out while you can my entire life.

Just all all of those other times, it makes splashy headline and sells papers/gets more clicks to pick on California. And just like all of those other times the death of California is greatly exaggerated.

Investment in Disneyland is not going anywhere.

 

[lazyboy97o]

Here's the article I was referring to: .

That’s a TV clip, not an article, but he explains himself in the clip. You have again mischaracterized something to confirm your fears. He’s speaking about those who are among the first to be vaccinated and the lack of knowledge regarding the ability of vaccinated persons to still spread the virus. He isn’t saying forever, just the immediate future particularly while cases are still soaring.

 

[George Lucas on a Bench]

I just spend most of my time working as an Essential Worker, constantly sitting in traffic wherever people are always making Target runs. Seems like everyone in SoCal just goes out to stores now. If there's a store nearby, it's a madhouse. IKEA is the new Disneyland. Right now I'm taking a break in the Home Depot parking lot and between there and Sam's Club, it looks like the parking lot of Magic Kingdom.

 

[bryanfze55]

Like what? Everything is closed and /or not worth the effort or not feasible with a toddler and a baby. It’s kind of hitting me hard as my main sources of entertainment were Disneyland and going out to eat. Oddly enough, I let my pass expire on March 4th and wasn’t planning on renewing until March 21. Something tells me I would have buckled a few months ago, new baby and all.

I feel ya man. I get travel shamed by my single, childless friends... as though getting on a plane and going to Southeast Asia with a 7 and 1 year old is a noble pursuit so we can be “cultured” for a week. It’s not that simple for everyone. If Disneyland is your entertainment, own it. I wish I lived closer.

Personally, we have tried more natural things. We went to Colorado when my oldest was 3 1/2 to see some national parks and do some hiking, but we were just so limited. It was still a fun trip, but it’s hard to get kids that young excited about nature when compared to a theme park. We did the Great Smoky Mountains as well, Zion, and Yosemite... all great trips... we have been around... but they were all very limiting. I’d rather wait to go to those places again when my kids are older and hopefully have the stamina and desire to explore more and really appreciate the natural world. I feel like with children you’re too limited to simply “seeing” rather than “doing.” It’s tough.

 

[bryanfze55]

People LOVE to come at California, especially those who don’t live here, even when the conversation has nothing to do with politics. Some can’t help themselves. I honestly believe it’s because California is a huge, popular state with the biggest population (but everyone’s leaving California!!) and is well-known. People probably feel they have to justify why they don’t live here and why their state is better.

That’s why we have responses like the ones above. The original question asked if we are getting used to the closure of Disneyland. Yet somehow, California vs. Texas gets brought up and extremes are mentioned, such as Disney won’t be investing in Anaheim or California in general anymore, despite it being the location of the original Disney park that sees millions of guests per year, among other things.

If you A), didn’t grow up in California and don’t have family or other resources there, or B) don’t have uniquely valuable skills that would score you a job well into the six figures... California is prohibitively expensive. I’m politically moderate but would choose Cali over Florida/Texas/Arizona and the like in a heartbeat. I have no issue admitting that. I think you flatter yourself with the idea that non-Californians have an inferiority complex. I give you my tourism dollars... but you made it too damn expensive to live there.

 

[Californian Elitist]

If you A), didn’t grow up in California and don’t have family or other resources there, or B) don’t have uniquely valuable skills that would score you a job well into the six figures... California is prohibitively expensive. I’m politically moderate but would choose Cali over Florida/Texas/Arizona and the like in a heartbeat. I have no issue admitting that. I think you flatter yourself with the idea that non-Californians have an inferiority complex. I give you my tourism dollars... but you made it too damn expensive to live there.

You completely misunderstood my comment. I actually don’t think non-Californians have an inferiority complex.

This is not the thread for this conversation, so I’ll leave it there. If you’d like, create a thread in the politics sub-forum and I’d be happy to explain there.

 

[bryanfze55]

You completely misunderstood my comment. I actually don’t think non-Californians have an inferiority complex.

This is not the thread for this conversation, so I’ll leave it there. If you’d like, create a thread in the politics sub-forum and I’d be happy to explain there.

I don’t think my post was political; I actually tried to avoid being that. You said people have to justify their reason not to live in California. I was explaining how my reasoning for not living in California is quite simple and inherently nonpolitical. But misunderstandings do happen over the Internet, I suppose, so apologies if that is what happened.

 

[Californian Elitist]

I don’t think my post was political; I actually tried to avoid being that. You said people have to justify their reason not to live in California. I was explaining how my reasoning for not living in California is quite simple and inherently nonpolitical. But misunderstandings do happen over the Internet, I suppose, so apologies if that is what happened.

The topic is political.

There’s no need to apologize! You’re totally fine. I just don’t want this thread to get too off topic. I really don’t believe non-Californians have an inferiority complex. I truly believe California is not for everyone and not everyone wants to live here, for many reasons. What I meant is some of those people love to share about how they wouldn’t want to live here, despite the state being well-known and popular. It’s like they have to shout it out for everyone to know lol.

Hope I clarified.

 

[britain]

Living in Texas, I only get the chance to visit DL every couple of years or so. So this isn’t that different for me.

BUT what IS driving me crazy is the lack of new park news bloggers & vloggers used to steadily drip into me like my personal IV of dopamine. To go from years of continuous Star Wars Land construction and ride premiers to nothing is a cold, cold turkey indeed. And not just no news, but the likelihood of no news for the next few years!

It’s enough to make me want to get my priorities straight and... sniff... find a different hobby.