Appalling state of the monorail cabins

lazyboy97o

lazyboy97o

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dstrawn9889 said:
4 and change inches wider, more than a foot taller...
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How is there more than a foot between 7'-5" and 7'-10"?
 
fngoofy

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TP2000 said:
That's a sad story. And yet another example that the lower and middle management of the facilities in WDW aren't doing their jobs correctly. A person like that should never have been hired, but since he was hired he certainly should have been given one chance to shape up or ship out. If the front-line hourly CM's have no pride in their jobs or their workplace, ultimately that is management's fault.
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You might as well add Unions into the blame game. Damn near impossible to fire anyone there.
 
s8film40

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s8film40 said:
There was a group in a similar probably much worse situation a few years ago, like you said if the AC isn't working being in an enclosed car with direct sunlight can be very dangerous. They opened the emergency windows. Obviously that should only be done if absolutely necessary but you aren't really trapped without any remedy to the situation. There are also vent windows that can more easily be opened and should be the first course of action.
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Today's events created an example of what I was talking about here.
 
articos

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peachykeen said:
One anecdote I'll share from my time in the department that I think shows the mentality of SOME cast. I forget what color it was, but the Monorail had just been repainted and was looking very nice. I was working in the center of the MK platform and the train came into the station with an alert that one of the wheel wells was hot. Maintenance came to check it out.

To access the wheel wells while the train is on the beam, a couple clips are loosened and the panel covering the wheel pivots up. There is a small flap at the bottom that hinges so the panel can clear the platform. I was standing next to the maintenance CM who was checking the wheel well, and when he was done, he just dropped the panel down and that freshly painted hinge slammed into the ground and chipped big chunks off and scuffed up the rest of it. THIS TRAIN HAD JUST BEEN PAINTED. I cringed, because there was clearly no respect or pride shown for the train by this person. It would have taken just slowly lowering the panel and kneeling down to guide the hinge back into the trough and it would have remained new looking.

Like I said this is only the mentality of SOME of the people there, not all, but there's enough of them that it adds up. A scuff here, a broken panel there, and we have the condition we have today.
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This is a training issue - no matter whether on-stage or backstage, cast used to be trained to have pride in their work and the physical plant. I hate hearing stories like this, and it does point to middle and lower management not doing their jobs properly instilling pride in their people.
 
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articos

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Brad Bishop

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s8film40 said:
Today's events created an example of what I was talking about here.
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I applaud these rule breakers. If they were 10min in then I'd say, "Come on, you could have waited." Two hours in you start looking for an exit, depending on the situation. They didn't do damage to the property, other than what could be fixed in 10min, and got fresh air (probably getting pretty uncomfortable in that car sitting in the sun) for them and other guests.

There was a time when I was excited about riding the monorail. Want to get from the Contemporary to the Magic Kingdom? Sure, you could walk it (in less time) or MONORAIL!!!

Now, and it really started around 2010 when they started having more numerous problems, I avoid it. If I'm trying to get from Epcot to MK then I just drive. If I'm trying to get from TTC to MK or back I take the ferry. These are reliable modes of transportation. The monorail? Not so much any longer.
 
s8film40

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Brad Bishop said:
I applaud these rule breakers. If they were 10min in then I'd say, "Come on, you could have waited." Two hours in you start looking for an exit, depending on the situation.
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I wouldn't call it rule breaking. Usually during towing and especially during evacuations they cut power to the track for the safety of the workers. With the sun coming in and little to no air ventilation it doesn't take long for a car to become dangerously hot. Like you said a few minutes no big deal, but after about 20-30 minutes removing the window is completely justified.
 
Victor Kelly

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I will go with justified for popping the emergency windows. Honestly, I may have waited another 15 minutes, may have. It all depends on the situation. But, and a big BUT here, Given that the heat in the cabin was rising, depending on the number of people onboard (adds to environmental heat), removing the windows was a safer bet, and logical. Co2 can only build so far before people start passing out, add heat to that equation, and waiting becomes a serious issue, even if it were to be towed with all people aboard. Disney is looking at a huge lawsuit this time.
 
hopemax

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Yes, it's one thing to pop out the windows in an obvious emergency situation, like what happened yesterday. In the June incident I experienced, they were on the intercom every 2 minutes telling us, "this is temporary, we're adding another train to the line." In that situation, what would have happened if people had popped the windows, would the crew really have been understanding? Would that then have forced an emergency situation ( do they drive the monorail, with the windows out? Would you have really popped them when you knew you would be moving "any minute?" But it was still too hot in the monorail, for as packed as the car was and the temp outside (we were stopped at least 15 min, but probably not much more than 20), and it should have been recognized as a safety situation.
 
Hakunamatata

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Victor Kelly said:
I will go with justified for popping the emergency windows. Honestly, I may have waited another 15 minutes, may have. It all depends on the situation. But, and a big BUT here, Given that the heat in the cabin was rising, depending on the number of people onboard (adds to environmental heat), removing the windows was a safer bet, and logical. Co2 can only build so far before people start passing out, add heat to that equation, and waiting becomes a serious issue, even if it were to be towed with all people aboard. Disney is looking at a huge lawsuit this time.
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Disney sees lawsuits all the time.
 

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