Appalling state of the monorail cabins

[Incomudro]

Cleanliness is one thing.
What the monorails need is a supply of replacement interior parts that can be swapped in for the broken and damage panels, carpeting etc.
These are just trim panels.
How hard or expensive can it be for WDW to acquire enough spare parts to keep the interior cosmetic parts of these cars presentable?

 

[dstrawn9889]

Question.. why automate something that is falling apart (parts wise)?
should have been cheaper to just buy NEW trains with NEW technology?
aka a full fledged full update?

The whole automation seems to be to cut costs by removing crew .. a bandaid on the falling apart monorail units.

the new mornorails from bombardier are too big to fit through the openings at the contemporary. they are taller (to allow movement from car to car) and IIRC they are also wider. it would be cheaper to refurb the current trains than to commission a whole new bodystyle that is not in full production

 

[Horizons '83]

Cleanliness is one thing.
What the monorails need is a supply of replacement interior parts that can be swapped in for the broken and damage panels, carpeting etc.
These are just trim panels.
How hard or expensive can it be for WDW to acquire enough spare parts to keep the interior cosmetic parts of these cars presentable?

Very, they would all have to be custom built. With that said, they have plenty of cash on hand, its just a matter of doing it.

 

[Cesar R M]

the new mornorails from bombardier are too big to fit through the openings at the contemporary. they are taller (to allow movement from car to car) and IIRC they are also wider. it would be cheaper to refurb the current trains than to commission a whole new bodystyle that is not in full production

And they cant make the hole bigger in any way? or lower the beam height just in that area?

 

[ParksAndPixels]

the new mornorails from bombardier are too big to fit through the openings at the contemporary. they are taller (to allow movement from car to car) and IIRC they are also wider. it would be cheaper to refurb the current trains than to commission a whole new bodystyle that is not in full production

Yes it would be cheaper, but part of what makes these trains special, is a design unique to the parks (before the old trains were shipped to Vegas)...

 

[Figment2005]

Question.. why automate something that is falling apart (parts wise)?
should have been cheaper to just buy NEW trains with NEW technology?
aka a full fledged full update?

The whole automation seems to be to cut costs by removing crew .. a bandaid on the falling apart monorail units.

They are actually spending more money by keeping the trains operational while the automation is happening. The trains that have been converted can run in both legacy and automated mode allowing them to stay in service during the day and be tested and adjusted during scheduled beam downtimes and night testing. Also, they are not saving costs by cutting cast because the new system will still have a cast member in the cabs, so get that thought out of your head.

Other than that, I don't know why they chose this way over another.

 

[Figment2005]

Cleanliness is one thing.
What the monorails need is a supply of replacement interior parts that can be swapped in for the broken and damage panels, carpeting etc.
These are just trim panels.
How hard or expensive can it be for WDW to acquire enough spare parts to keep the interior cosmetic parts of these cars presentable?

Quite since everything must be custom made because these trains are 25+ years old.

 

[Incomudro]

Quite since everything must be custom made because these trains are 25+ years old.

A company that can build Pandora can certainly craft some fiberglass trim panels for a monorail interior.

 

[Figment2005]

A company that can build Pandora can certainly craft some fiberglass trim panels for a monorail interior.

That's above my paygrade.

 

[Monorail Lime]

A company that can build Pandora can certainly craft some fiberglass trim panels for a monorail interior.

Indeed. Disney built entirely new cabs for Peach not too long ago. Broken parts remain that way because Disney chooses not to replace them, not because they can't.

 

[Monorail Lime]

Quite since everything must be custom made because these trains are 25+ years old.

That's always been the case though? There has never been a supply of "off the shelf" Mark VI parts since our trains are unique in the world.

 

[lazyboy97o]

Question.. why automate something that is falling apart (parts wise)?
should have been cheaper to just buy NEW trains with NEW technology?
aka a full fledged full update?

The whole automation seems to be to cut costs by removing crew .. a bandaid on the falling apart monorail units.

New trains really would not be cheaper. You'd be paying to replace expensive parts, namely the chassis. Disneyland has note received entirely new trains since the Mark IIIs in the 1960s.

the new mornorails from bombardier are too big to fit through the openings at the contemporary. they are taller (to allow movement from car to car) and IIRC they are also wider. it would be cheaper to refurb the current trains than to commission a whole new bodystyle that is not in full production

That is the INNOVIA 300 monorail. The INNOVIA 200 was based on the Mark VI and previously named the M-VI.

 

[dstrawn9889]

New trains really would not be cheaper. You'd be paying to replace expensive parts, namely the chassis. Disneyland has note received entirely new trains since the Mark IIIs in the 1960s.


That is the INNOVIA 300 monorail. The INNOVIA 200 was based on the Mark VI and previously named the M-VI.

4 and change inches wider, more than a foot taller...

 

[Incomudro]

4 and change inches wider, more than a foot taller...

That train would need a different nose.
Ugly compared to the WDW trains.

 

[Unomas]

It still got me to MK and Epcot.

 

[xdan0920]

It still got me to MK and Epcot.

Cool

 

[Horizons '83]

It still got me to MK and Epcot.

 

[wdisney9000]

It still got me to MK and Epcot.

With a few added mold spores to your respiratory system

 

[Creathir]

4 and change inches wider, more than a foot taller...

I'm guessing the height is the big issue.
The lakeside beam in the contemporary is probably the biggest problem:

Certainly not a foot to give...

 

[dstrawn9889]

I'm guessing the height is the big issue.
The lakeside beam in the contemporary is probably the biggest problem:

Certainly not a foot to give...

Also that they have widened both directions ALREADY when they went to the Mark VI trains, i am sure that there is little remaining room without extensive changes to both the beam height and the platform level, placing ALL three beams on standby to fix the issues... Well i guess they COULD run point to point, but at a significant reduction in capacity during these changes