Anybody get a 35% raise last year?

NelsonRD

Well-Known Member
Regarding the fast food argument, aren't certain places like Five Guys and In & Out paying more than McD's, and somehow managing to be successful and highly regarded? It's almost as if you pay someone better, you get better results....

I would argue that this is not true. If the CMs were paid more, maybe the first day or two you might see appreciation in the form of better service, but after that, people are creatures of routine, and the better CMs will be better, and grumpier ones will get grumpy again. It's more about who you hire, not what you pay them. You could pay me 100k to do a job I hate, and it will show!
 

draybook

Well-Known Member
Did I really read someone ask if the CEO that got this monster pay raise effects your vacation?? The same guy that makes or okays all of the decisions that effect the park.....


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Matt_Black

Well-Known Member
I haven't comparison shopped lately, but does Five Guys charge a bit more per burger vs McDs? That may play a role in salary compensation of the two.

Yes, but did they deserve that opening salary, regardless of the cost? That seemed to be the argument above, that flipping burgers, regardless of the quality of food, did not merit more than the absolute bare minimum.
 

unkadug

Follower of "Saget"The Cult
I haven't comparison shopped lately, but does Five Guys charge a bit more per burger vs McDs? That may play a role in salary compensation of the two.
Does flipping a burger that cost $4.00 require more finesse/skill than flipping a burger that costs $2.00?
 

Hakunamatata

Le Meh
Premium Member
Well....OK then
I can also state from experience, that the engagement of the employee at Five Guys tends to be higher than the engagement with the customer of employees of McDonalds on average. Not that I have not had good experiences with some employees at McDonalds, employees at Five Guys generally are more interested in their job and customer than those at McDonalds.
 

NelsonRD

Well-Known Member
Does flipping a burger that cost $4.00 require more finesse/skill than flipping a burger that costs $2.00?

It is even easier today, and requires even less skill because fast food joints such as McDonalds cook the burger on both sides at the same time - there is no flipping anymore......
 

NelsonRD

Well-Known Member
Get ready for your $12 McChicken sandwich! If you want ketchup or mayo, you'll have to buy a single packet for $1 each and put it on your food yourself.

....and what about the people making $15 dollars an hour now? What is going to happen when the minimum is what they are making - they are going to demand more, and this will ripple all the way up to the top.
 

WDW Monorail

Well-Known Member
I used those prices because the first time I went to Switzerland was with a group of kids from high school. We had to be dumb and had a late night snack at McDonalds. I still have the receipt showing that I paid $11.99 for a McChicken sandwich with a packet of mayo on the side for $1 extra.

This was in Lucerne which is pricey. There are many locales in the United States which are also pricey across the board. I will fully expect such prices to appear in many markets here in the United States.
I would hope that if wages were to increase that McDonalds not just eat the cost.
 

mp2bill

Well-Known Member
"He's worth it”

Said the PR spin released on a late Friday afternoon.

They never release news like this on a Monday morning.
It's called a "Friday Night News Dump." It's frustrating to know that they can do this because nobody's paying attention.
 

mousehockey37

Well-Known Member
I would argue that this is not true. If the CMs were paid more, maybe the first day or two you might see appreciation in the form of better service, but after that, people are creatures of routine, and the better CMs will be better, and grumpier ones will get grumpy again. It's more about who you hire, not what you pay them. You could pay me 100k to do a job I hate, and it will show!

People are creatures of routine. This means as well that people don't like change. Hence why there is outrage over the wanting of change to raise the minimum wage. People are scared of the potential changes that will come with it.

As for the comment of who you hire? Well, most places today have you apply online. If, and only if, your application can pass the pre-determined algorithms that "screen" applications or by chance there's actually a person that sits down and looks at those applications on the computer, you may then get a phone call from that grumpy manager who is stuck with a lousy crew because the hiring process weeded out all the "better" applicants.

Technology has helped us, but it has hindered us. I remember actually having to go to places of potential employment and do hand written applications, hand it to the manager, they review it (on the spot) and I got an answer immediately or at least an acknowledgement that I submitted something. Today, you apply online, hit submit and hope that when the hiring manager at a corporate office somewhere in a cubicle (think Mr. Incredible working for his insurance company) will actually not just "view, catalog, and send the generic 'we went with a better candidate' email".

I'm not saying you totally have to get rid of online applications, but there needs to be a better process at picking out people to interview. Many people today are getting rejected because they are "over qualified". Meaning, they have a college degree and the job only requires a GED at best. Why? The employment market has changed. Those students that went into college wanting to be teachers and such are graduating into a world where education has seen drastic cuts (especially in the fine arts ie music, pe, art) and they now have this wonderful piece of paper that states that they are "over qualified" for any job that is below an educator.

These "over qualified" people are now being held in limbo in the job market because they have too much education to be doing simple work, yet they can't find a job using the degree they earned. All the manager or computer sees on the online application (filters, etc) is that they graduated college, so it automatically cancels out their opportunity with the company, even though they might be the best worker that company could get.
 

Hakunamatata

Le Meh
Premium Member
....and what about the people making $15 dollars an hour now? What is going to happen when the minimum is what they are making - they are going to demand more, and this will ripple all the way up to the top.
Right. And the dollar menu will go to the six dollar menu and the people making the new minimum won't be able to afford it. Then the new living wage will be $30 an hour.
 

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