Dr. Nigel Channing
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I blame the family holiday classic Jingle All The Way starring Arnold Schwarzenegger for most of modern society's violence.
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No, that's still the Cardiac Surgery Recovery ICU.
Fido Chuckwagon
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Tiki Room has been packed the last few times I’ve done it with my family.
donaldtoo
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Yep, staying hydrated this time of year (I’m from Texas and we’ve had record heat) at WDW is especially important. Granted, even if you’re properly hydrating, your gonna’ sweat a bunch of it off, but, your still gonna’ need to relieve yourself from time to time.
What’s more of a problem…Guests passing out all over the place, or reasonable access to the loo while also in queue…?
donaldtoo
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donaldtoo
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Agreed.
We do, however, have our first-ever (5 nights) DCL cruise planned for this December. From what I’ve read and heard, that’s a whole other (much more Magical
) animal.The guy who really got the book thrown at him is the dark net Silk Road guy with previous no criminal record serving a life sentence. Free Ross!
bcoachable
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Cause there is not much else to do that doesn’t have an hour long line..
Well... if the environmental factor is someone pushing you, then it is okay to fight back. If someone simply says, "no you cannot jump in front of me" then you don't get the right to attack the person for not helping to enable your rude behavior. People tried to line jump and it resulted in a fight. In a perfect world CM's would noticed people jumping lines, call security and get the person kicked from the park and banned for life. Doing that would result in enough press coverage that you wouldn't have to deal with anymore line jumpers because at the moment they have been enabled by Disney that posts rules against it but doesn't bother to enforce them. Of course wear a t-shirt that says something naughty and you'll quickly get the full force of Disney on you... but do something that has more impact on others like jumping a line and they look the other way.
LittleBuford
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She was retaking her place, not jumping the line, and (unless I’m mistaken) it was the other family, not hers, who started the fight.
No one is going to be “Banned for Life” for line jumping. You might be escorted from the park for the day, but I seriously doubt you’ll be banned for life. It is annoying when someone tries to line jump though for whatever reason.
DryerLintFan
Premium Member
Someone pushing you is not an environmental factor
Also, she wasn’t line jumping. She was in line, waiting. Then she left the line to get something and came back to her group.
Line jumping is absolutely frustrating though. So I do understand the sentiment. But this ain’t it.
NelsonRD
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After giving some thought on the reasons for short temperaments, and increased violence in society as a whole, I have come to the conclusion that I blame those in leadership or role model positions the most.
Politicians have been encouraging violent protest, opposed to peaceful demonstrations. Some have suggested to harass those with opposing views. There is a mindset from some, that the ends justify the means. I disagree, I believe politicians, on both sides of issues have been acting irrational, childish, retaliatory, and short sighted. Of all the groups that needs to improve, it should start with our elected leaders.
Additionally, athletes, when violent on the field, is viewed as ‘emotional’, or passionate about the game. This is also wrong, this violence should also be discouraged, not justified. Celebrities have acted out with violence forever, and often goes unpunished, from domestic violence, to famous Oscar slap. This behavior normalizes violence and hate. Hurt my feelings, and I will hurt you.
CEOs are also to blame. CEOs of large corporations should set a strong leadership standard, instead of making statements unrelated to business, and punishing opposing views with career retaliation. The mission should come first, and I think some have forgotten that.
And as we all know, the news hold the final blame. The constant push that if your not outraged (over something), your not paying attention, and you don't matter.
Politicians have been encouraging violent protest, opposed to peaceful demonstrations. Some have suggested to harass those with opposing views. There is a mindset from some, that the ends justify the means. I disagree, I believe politicians, on both sides of issues have been acting irrational, childish, retaliatory, and short sighted. Of all the groups that needs to improve, it should start with our elected leaders.
Additionally, athletes, when violent on the field, is viewed as ‘emotional’, or passionate about the game. This is also wrong, this violence should also be discouraged, not justified. Celebrities have acted out with violence forever, and often goes unpunished, from domestic violence, to famous Oscar slap. This behavior normalizes violence and hate. Hurt my feelings, and I will hurt you.
CEOs are also to blame. CEOs of large corporations should set a strong leadership standard, instead of making statements unrelated to business, and punishing opposing views with career retaliation. The mission should come first, and I think some have forgotten that.
And as we all know, the news hold the final blame. The constant push that if your not outraged (over something), your not paying attention, and you don't matter.
You'll love it. So do the suits in accounting.Agreed.
We do, however, have our first-ever (5 nights) DCL cruise planned for this December. From what I’ve read and heard, that’s a whole other (much more Magical
If they only kick them from the park then you haven't sent a message that would cause others to avoid doing the same thing. There is a risk reward trade-off in the minds of people and the ones that jump lines need to see a risk significant enough that it actually registers. If I'm at Disney on a trip and its the last day of the trip why wouldn't I just jump lines when I thought I could likely get away with it and the punishment would be ending my day early... even if the punishment was a 1 year ban if I'm only going once in a while a year ban also means little in terms of consequence. But a life time ban would hit most everyone and would also register with people as a significant cost of doing the bad thing.
You leave the line then you are no longer in line. When you return you are line jumping. There is no place holding in the lines because you and I both know that if place holding is acceptable you'll have everyone place holding regular people into 4 hour wait times.Someone pushing you is not an environmental factor
Also, she wasn’t line jumping. She was in line, waiting. Then she left the line to get something and came back to her group.
Line jumping is absolutely frustrating though. So I do understand the sentiment. But this ain’t it.
Place holding is reality unless one’s bladder can hold for that long.
Your argument makes no sense. Your hardline stance with something as simple as line jumping is mind boggling. Should there be consequences for that? Yes. Banned for life? So using your “logic” what should be the penalty for let’s say brining a weapon into the parks.
Jrb1979
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Sorry but most other parks take it seriously. They may not ban you but they may kick you out for the day. I was just at Cedar Point and they have a number to text for line jumpers.