I know the show eats people, but it's past time to renovate it. The animatronics need fixing and the last scene needs updated. Better to renovate now than to wait for it to be beyond repair.
I have noticed poor show at CoP since 1996. It's grown worse and worse. After nearly 25 years, I don't have faith that Disney has any substantive plans to fix things. More along the lines of the monorail's silly "refresh."
What do we update the last scene to be that would be significant. Disney stopped trying to predict the future a long time ago. However, as a historical statement it fits in with Tomorrowland exactly the way it is. How do we appreciate the millennium we are currently in without a reminder or a depiction of what life was like during and up through to the 21st century. It is a classic attraction that shows what life was like up until this century. It is a very entertaining way to educate those that are to young to ever have experienced what their parents, grandparents and even great grandparents dealt with before modern technology slammed us all.I know the show eats people, but it's past time to renovate it. The animatronics need fixing and the last scene needs updated. Better to renovate now than to wait for it to be beyond repair.
My blue sky would be trying to get one more scene in but marni says that’s not possible, so with the handicap of 4 scenes, I would turn the carousel of progress into a celebration of the advances made in the 20th century:
Scene 1: 1900s, no changes
Scene 2: 1940s, no changes
Scene 3: July 24, 1969, have the family getting ready to watch the moon landing. Have Jimmy getting ready to go to Boy Scout Camp, Patty going to a rock concert (and be a hippy,) and have Sarah working in a home office having joined the work force.
Scene 4: New Years Eve 1999: You can still have the Christmas decorations up, but have the family all together to count down to the year 2000 and talk about all the amazing things that happened this century.
It kills me to loose the 1920s scene as it’s probably my favorite but I see no way to have it stay in the show.
So you have a refresh about Progress that would already be 21 years old?
What do we update the last scene to be that would be significant. Disney stopped trying to predict the future a long time ago. However, as a historical statement it fits in with Tomorrowland exactly the way it is. How do we appreciate the millennium we are currently in without a reminder or a depiction of what life was like during and up through to the 21st century. It is a classic attraction that shows what life was like up until this century. It is a very entertaining way to educate those that are to young to ever have experienced what their parents, grandparents and even great grandparents dealt with before modern technology slammed us all.
To me it seems like we should all try and appreciate it for what it is and not constantly think it needs to be changed. Besides the real attraction is that the audience actually goes from theater to theater without taking their lazy 21st century butts of the seat cushion. Not bad for 56 year old technology and honestly has anyone ever seen anything like that elsewhere? In WDW it is the detail that tells the story, not how modern it does or doesn't look. The last time there was a push to make changes, we almost lost it completely. It will go eventually when the maintenance cost exceeds the return. It will happen, and anyone with any sense of history will miss it. In the words of Joni Mitchell, "We don't know what we've got till it's gone." We are all too anxious to pave paradise and put up a parking lot.
Lol ... Saskatchewan but close enough! I think she hangs out in New Mexico now.I'm not ready to quote the lady of the Alberta plains. I don't want to pave anything. I don't want to update anything. I just ask for the care and upkeep a beloved attraction deserves.
Lol ... Saskatchewan but close enough! I think she hangs out in New Mexico now.
Most of us agree to that. I want it to stay as one of a very few enshrined attractions that really was primarily responsible for the Disney Theme parks as we know it. It was unheard of until Walt and crew invaded the New York Worlds Fair in 1964. Without that all of the animatronics we know and love today might never have been created. It is far more important then Small World, the Tiki Room, Pirates, Haunted mansion and others.I'm not ready to quote the lady of the Alberta plains. I don't want to pave anything. I don't want to update anything. I just ask for the care and upkeep a beloved attraction deserves.
Most of us agree to that. I want it to stay as one of a very few enshrined attractions that really was primarily responsible for the Disney Theme parks as we know it. It was unheard of until Walt and crew invaded the New York Worlds Fair in 1964. Without that all of the animatronics we know and love today might never have been created. It is far more important then Small World, the Tiki Room, Pirates, Haunted mansion and others.
Yes, it is very important, and it does predate, but even as impressive as the Tiki Room is, it really doesn't hold a candle to the creativity and complexity of CoP. The two really started it. Tiki was that "one little spark of inspiration" that became that magnificent creation.I'd say the Tiki Room is pretty important since it predates CoP, too. But yes.
All true - in 1964.Most of us agree to that. I want it to stay as one of a very few enshrined attractions that really was primarily responsible for the Disney Theme parks as we know it. It was unheard of until Walt and crew invaded the New York Worlds Fair in 1964. Without that all of the animatronics we know and love today might never have been created. It is far more important then Small World, the Tiki Room, Pirates, Haunted mansion and others.
CoP we love you and like a good old friend you need to stay. I think we can all agree, that Tomorrowland is nothing like it was first envisioned and that is because technology changes faster then they can keep up with it now. That wasn't a problem when Walt first designed it. I still think that there is nothing more important then keeping our past as we progress forward. We can combine the two successfully and truth be known, if our children don't have a way to see where we came from they can't really be encouraged to create on their own. That show is more important now then it was in the 60's and the important thing is if someone doesn't want to see it all they have to do is walk by. There is no guarantee that whatever they replace it with will be any better then what was there already and a whole lot of history will be lost. There really is no win in this. If they wanted to add something new, they have plenty of space to add attractions. Look what happened to that prime property that was occupied by Stitch.All true - in 1964.
Walt was about progress and the future which was captured in the entire essence of Tomorrowland (which he completely rebuilt in just its first decade to keep it fresh and take advantage of the latest technology) and in this specific attraction for the World’s Fair.
I think he’d be horrified if he came back and saw that it is still going instead of having new stories being told with new technology that are relevant to the current audiences.
I’ve seen this show countless times since it came to DL in the 60’s and it’s beloved, but to me, this is the kind of thinking that allows WDI to be lazy and watch these “museum” attractions just sit and rot. The fact that this show was specifically about progress and was a moment of its time makes it even worse.
COP, we love you. But it’s time....
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