All Tomorrowland, All the time (Has Disney given up on the TTA?)

[EPCOT Explorer]

Yea. Refurbing and updating out of date attractions is completely different.

You are pulling straws here. Look at HM. Look at HoP. They can do it, and do it easily.

How about not having Future World and Tomorrowland in the same resort. The concept of the future is the most difficult concept to keep fresh, and Disney has proven that maintaining these two themes (which are really the same) is difficult.

Before someone jumps down my throat about Future World being different from Tomorrowland - in implementation they are different, but in terms of the names used Future World and Tomorrowland are the same. Future World is really Discoveryland and Tomorrowland is really Sci-Fi Land.

I think it would be much easier to change the name of Future World than it would be to change the name of Tomorrowland, but really the cohesion is largely predicated on the misnaming of the two lands.



I think this further emphasizes why Future World should be renamed to Discoveryland. The World's Fairs were about new technologies, but more importantly they were about new discoveries.

I could not disagree more, sorry! :lol:

In name, and in name only, I believe iis the similarity of the two lands. Renaming only shows that they are giving up and being generic in this case.
If they want to FIX the problem, and not ignore it, they should bring a cohesive theme to EACH of the lands. TL should be a Spaceport, or Space City. Doesn't have to be Retro, like the one we have, but you get the idea. FW should be about Discovery, yes, but Discovery in the FUTURE. What it was intended to be and what it should be, IMHO. The current modern and "discovery" view of the park will get old now, and quick.
I would even arge that it already is.

 

[WDW Vacationer]

I'll call off the troops...

SO interesting about your thoughts on the "Management" or lack there of...It only runs perfectly concurrent with what I have recorded.



Ah, I see what you mean, but a year ago...TL was going to be BnL City.

I am actually happy that did not happen.

I LOVE Wall-E,but a whole land after 1 film is crazy.

Something similar,yes,but NOT BnL land.

 

[SirGoofy]

You are pulling straws here. Look at HM. Look at HoP. They can do it, and do it easily.

But asking that to happen all the time at one park isn't realistic, IMO.

 

[EPCOT Explorer]

I am actually happy that did not happen.

I LOVE Wall-E,but a whole land after 1 film is crazy.

Something similar,yes,but NOT BnL land.

I agree. However, I do think it was going to be in look and aesthetics only.

But asking that to happen all the time at one park isn't realistic, IMO.

Can you stop putting words in my mouth?:lol:

I never said that. I said UPDATEABLE, but not all at the same time. What I meant was new films, AA's scenarios for certain rides....:wave:

 

[Lee]

Ah, I see what you mean, but a year ago...TL was going to be BnL City.

Nah....not really.
That was a proposed concept, but didn't get very far. That would've been a thematic disaster.

 

[EPCOT Explorer]

Nah....not really.
That was a proposed concept, but didn't get very far.

I had heard otherwise, to be honest with you. They went so far as to have WDI walk around the place (or maybe that isn't so far?) and I know there were renderings.:shrug: :lol:


I don't think it would have changed the look of the land THAT much, though...It was more of a overlay than a whole rehaul.

 

[SirGoofy]

I had heard otherwise, to be honest with you. They went so far as to have WDI walk around the place (or maybe that isn't so far?) and I know there were renderings.:shrug: :lol:

Nah, WDI walking around isn't far. They're always walking around scouting out plans/renderings.

 

[EPCOT Explorer]

Nah, WDI walking around isn't far. They're always walking around scouting out plans/renderings.

I did not know that. [/Johnny Carson] :lol:


I don't know how big the presence for WDI actually was, mind you, but I can find out. Not now, though....It's Toy Story time! (finally!)

 

[Lee]

I had heard otherwise, to be honest with you. They went so far as to have WDI walk around the place (or maybe that isn't so far?) and I know there were renderings.:shrug: :lol:

I don't think it would have changed the look of the land THAT much, though...It was more of a overlay than a whole rehaul.

Yes. They did walk around, renderings were done, etc.
Based on that a concept was devised. It was pitched at some level, but died a swift death.
The thematic issues would have been not so much about the look, but the whole issue of having Buzz, Stitch, CoP, etc existing in a Wall-E world. Mish-mashes like that are doomed to fail.

 

[DocMcHulk]

The geek in me wishes they would release some of those renderings. I'd love to see it.

 

[Lee]

The geek in me wishes they would release some of those renderings. I'd love to see it.

Maybe it'll show up in an Imagineering book in a few years.

 

[RSoxNo1]

I could not disagree more, sorry! :lol:

In name, and in name only, I believe iis the similarity of the two lands. Renaming only shows that they are giving up and being generic in this case.
If they want to FIX the problem, and not ignore it, they should bring a cohesive theme to EACH of the lands. TL should be a Spaceport, or Space City. Doesn't have to be Retro, like the one we have, but you get the idea. FW should be about Discovery, yes, but Discovery in the FUTURE. What it was intended to be and what it should be, IMHO. The current modern and "discovery" view of the park will get old now, and quick.
I would even arge that it already is.

I actually don't think we disagree at all. Tomorrowland in the Magic Kingdom should be the Sci-Fi Spaceport/Interplanetary Convention Center and Futureworld should be about discovering new technologies.

The distinction is, that Futureworld has been about the history of discovery not just new discoveries. That's why I think Discoveryland is a more appropriate name than Future World.

 

[SirGoofy]

The distinction is, that Futureworld has been about the history of discovery not just new discoveries. That's why I think Discoveryland is a more appropriate name than Future World.

Yes.:wave:

 

[EpcotServo]

Maybe it'll show up in an Imagineering book in a few years.

Along with "The Magic of Shut your Face and Reopen Adventurer's Club" By the Imagineers (But mostly Lee)

Coming to bookshelves soon!

:lol:

 

[kcnole]

The distinction is, that Futureworld has been about the history of discovery not just new discoveries. That's why I think Discoveryland is a more appropriate name than Future World.

I've been saying that for years. Futureworld is a very dated name. Today we're not as focused on the idea of this great beautiful future as we are on what we can learn based on what we've already known. I think the concept of Discoveryland would be much easier to maintain and keep thematically correct. I know that purists would probably get in a tizzy about changing the name. The blogs would go nuts with how imagineering didn't have the ability to be creative enough to keep changing Futureworld so they did a cop out, etc... But I really think its the best option.

 

[imagineer boy]

The distinction is, that Futureworld has been about the history of discovery not just new discoveries. That's why I think Discoveryland is a more appropriate name than Future World.

I agree with that, or it should be at least "Discovery World".

 

[Jasonflz]

I actually don't think we disagree at all. Tomorrowland in the Magic Kingdom should be the Sci-Fi Spaceport/Interplanetary Convention Center and Futureworld should be about discovering new technologies.

The distinction is, that Futureworld has been about the history of discovery not just new discoveries. That's why I think Discoveryland is a more appropriate name than Future World.

I agree.

The problem is, Discoveryland is already associated with the Jules Verne concept in Euro Disney. Besides, Future World has a nice ring to it. (although it is not fully accurate, architecture aside.)

 

[SirGoofy]

The problem is, Discoveryland is already associated with the Jules Verne concept in Euro Disney.

I doubt 90% of WDW visitors would know about Discoveryland in Paris.

 

[Jasonflz]

I doubt 90% of WDW visitors would know about Discoveryland in Paris.

:lol: Good point. Do you think it could work, though?

 

[SirGoofy]

:lol: Good point. Do you think it could work, though?

Yea. I'd be all for a name change. It'd at least cut down the threads and posts about the individual rides not fitting the theme and the death of Epcot to posts and threads just about the death of Epcot.