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Accident at Disneyland (CA)
- Thread starter Thrawn
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worser things have and are happening
This is truley a bad thing, but the media will likely blow it out of proportion and I am sure that news helicopter had to avoid the vultures, woops, attorneys circling waiting to swoop in and sue someone....
This is truley a bad thing, but the media will likely blow it out of proportion and I am sure that news helicopter had to avoid the vultures, woops, attorneys circling waiting to swoop in and sue someone....
PhotoDave219
Well-Known Member
Well, a quick look on Lexis-Nexis shows that people wilkl sue disney for any reason. Lots of times it gets tossed out or dragged on for ever. And disney always appeals. Always.
FutureCEO
Well-Known Member
This case....the families won't have enough information to sue. I mean is anyone actually going to find out why the front train broke off. it could be wear and tear could be a bump in the ride caused by someones glasses or something. YOU CAN'T PUT A VALUE ON LIFE. so why sue, it won't bring them back. sorry if i sound dismal
orlpassholder
New Member
My prayers go out to the families of the injured, and deceased. This is truely a sad day in Disney History.....
X2CommNavISTC
Account Suspended
It was offically announced about an hour ago that Thunder Mt here at WDW is closed indefinatly until they can fully inspect every part of the track for any ageing peices or what have you.
According to a safty expert and to one of the engineers of the attraction, they believe and are leaning towards it being a crack in the track some where in the vacinaty of where the derailment took place.
According to a safty expert and to one of the engineers of the attraction, they believe and are leaning towards it being a crack in the track some where in the vacinaty of where the derailment took place.
Dr Albert Falls
New Member
First of all-- we WILL eventually know what caused this. So let's all stop speculating!
Second-- quit blaming the media for "blowing this out of proportion". Someone died, for Christ's sake! And it happened while they were supposed to be having fun. The accident occurred at the most popular, most successful entertainment complex in the world. This IS big news.
Third-- who gives a crap about lawsuits? If the guest is at fault (which sounds highly unlikely at this early stage) the courts will recognize that. If it was a maintainence oversight or operational error, the families will be compensated. That's why we have courts. It happens every day.
Fourth-- quit believing the urban legends that Disney is going to cover this up. Sure, no company wants "bad publicity". But this goes beyond that. Did you not see Michael Eisner and Jay Rasulo take center stage at the press conference? They're stepping up to the plate when it counts. As for the investigation-- its being conducted by state and local authorities-- not Disney.
Second-- quit blaming the media for "blowing this out of proportion". Someone died, for Christ's sake! And it happened while they were supposed to be having fun. The accident occurred at the most popular, most successful entertainment complex in the world. This IS big news.
Third-- who gives a crap about lawsuits? If the guest is at fault (which sounds highly unlikely at this early stage) the courts will recognize that. If it was a maintainence oversight or operational error, the families will be compensated. That's why we have courts. It happens every day.
Fourth-- quit believing the urban legends that Disney is going to cover this up. Sure, no company wants "bad publicity". But this goes beyond that. Did you not see Michael Eisner and Jay Rasulo take center stage at the press conference? They're stepping up to the plate when it counts. As for the investigation-- its being conducted by state and local authorities-- not Disney.
Dr Albert Falls
New Member
Oh yeah-- in case you missed it-- authorities RETRACTED their earlier statement about the victim going into cardiac arrest. It appears he DID NOT.
Dr Albert Falls
New Member
Glad you can find "fun" in this.
miles1
Active Member
This was a terrible accident and I really feel for those killed and injured.
However, given the information that I know at this point (which may be lacking), I'd like to make a few observations.
From what I've heard thus far, the gentleman that died suffered a heart attack. He did not die from TRAUMA suffered in the accident. Granted, he may have literally been scared to death; but he must have had some other risk factors for a heart attack, like advanced age, hypertension, or a history of heavy smoking. People are not SCARED into having a heart attack for no reason; they must already have some factor that has made them prone to one, and the accident is the event that sets it off.
Second, If memory serves me, each of those cars holds 12 to 15 people. A train with 3 cars would therefore have a capacity of 36 to 45 people. (Feel free to correct me; I'm no authority). If only one other person suffered even moderate injuries, it says something about the safety of the ride. Obviously the work put into safety brakes, padding and restraints was effective enough to prevent MANY severe injuries.
We here, and the media, can speculate all day about whether there was any negligence on Disney's part that caused the accident. However, I can't see how Disney can be culpable if the guest died from a heart condition rather than trauma. I think they should also be commended for being as forthcoming as they are with information, and for handling the incident as efficiently as they did.
Just my two cents. We should all say a prayer tonight for all those involved.
However, given the information that I know at this point (which may be lacking), I'd like to make a few observations.
From what I've heard thus far, the gentleman that died suffered a heart attack. He did not die from TRAUMA suffered in the accident. Granted, he may have literally been scared to death; but he must have had some other risk factors for a heart attack, like advanced age, hypertension, or a history of heavy smoking. People are not SCARED into having a heart attack for no reason; they must already have some factor that has made them prone to one, and the accident is the event that sets it off.
Second, If memory serves me, each of those cars holds 12 to 15 people. A train with 3 cars would therefore have a capacity of 36 to 45 people. (Feel free to correct me; I'm no authority). If only one other person suffered even moderate injuries, it says something about the safety of the ride. Obviously the work put into safety brakes, padding and restraints was effective enough to prevent MANY severe injuries.
We here, and the media, can speculate all day about whether there was any negligence on Disney's part that caused the accident. However, I can't see how Disney can be culpable if the guest died from a heart condition rather than trauma. I think they should also be commended for being as forthcoming as they are with information, and for handling the incident as efficiently as they did.
Just my two cents. We should all say a prayer tonight for all those involved.
the-reason
New Member
Arent parks supposed to shut down coasters if the track is wet or if its raining, because at WDW in july, thats how my mom and I, got so many rides, because it was sprinkling a little bit and they didnt shut it down, and I heard the car wheels kinda squeek on every turn I was kinda frieked out.Do you think any body will ride BTM at any disney parks anymore.
orlpassholder
New Member
I have never been one to speak out allot on these boards about peoples posts and or opinions but I feel something needs to be said.
This is a tragedy a human life was lost today by an accident. Can we please be
1. Mature about the issue and show respect to the gentleman that lost his life, and keep his family in our thoughts.
2. Let’s stop this speculation about this and that until we know for a fact what happened.
3. We all know the media jumps at any news. Anyone who lives in Florida can you tell that with our "little" storm we had today that the local news was running with predictions of the entire state being hit with over 15 inches of water. Don’t believe everything you read or hear. People will RUSH to be first and allot of times recant when they are wrong.
Most of all I find it disturbing when people make light and or say things like example "I wonder if his ghost will haunt the ride"
I chalk that up to age/maturity and maybe the person was trying to come off a different way. But again please show some compassion in this case and not make light of it. Some one is with out a husband a father a brother and a son tonight.
This is a tragedy a human life was lost today by an accident. Can we please be
1. Mature about the issue and show respect to the gentleman that lost his life, and keep his family in our thoughts.
2. Let’s stop this speculation about this and that until we know for a fact what happened.
3. We all know the media jumps at any news. Anyone who lives in Florida can you tell that with our "little" storm we had today that the local news was running with predictions of the entire state being hit with over 15 inches of water. Don’t believe everything you read or hear. People will RUSH to be first and allot of times recant when they are wrong.
Most of all I find it disturbing when people make light and or say things like example "I wonder if his ghost will haunt the ride"
I chalk that up to age/maturity and maybe the person was trying to come off a different way. But again please show some compassion in this case and not make light of it. Some one is with out a husband a father a brother and a son tonight.