A Terror-rific Spirited 13th (ToT fans have lots to fear)...

BrianLo

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Frozen Ever After would like to nominate itself. Quality ride but wrong park and operational nightmare.

Ah no... not even close. That's an insult to the lows WDI has reached in their lifetime.

Those issues you have are all executive driven decisions, none had anything to do with WDI.

The wholesale destruction of the Imagination Pavilion is just one example from that very park. The Shanghai Disneyland hub is a better example from 2016.

Superstar limo or opening day WDS wish they were FEA... the word quality wasn't allowed within a thousand miles of those turds.
 
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Rodan75

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Universal is the anti-nostalgia company. Somewhere a happy medium exists between the protectionist millennials and the corporate disregard for legacy.

It's not a bad thing persay, but pretty crazy they've completely wiped away all legacy attractions.

It just means they can never utilize the nostalgia factor to lure guests in. Which is a bit odd. I guess they feel no one loved old USF? ( I did.).
 

Mike S

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Universal is the anti-nostalgia company. Somewhere a happy medium exists between the protectionist millennials and the corporate disregard for legacy.

It's not a bad thing persay, but pretty crazy they've completely wiped away all legacy attractions.
It just means they can never utilize the nostalgia factor to lure guests in. Which is a bit odd. I guess they feel no one loved old USF? ( I did.).
Maybe they're banking on the nostalgia of the franchises that they're adding? They are choosing pretty wisely on that front. I can't imagine their new additions like Potter and Nintendo will be as expendable as what has left. At least it seems like the nostalgic IoA rides are safe, for now. Except maybe Lost Continent but that's just my own musings.
 

BrianLo

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Maybe they're banking on the nostalgia of the franchises that they're adding? They are choosing pretty wisely on that front. I can't imagine their new additions like Potter and Nintendo will be as expendable as what has left. At least it seems like the nostalgic IoA rides are safe, for now. Except maybe Lost Continent but that's just my own musings.

I think it has more to do with the fact ET isn't a popular film with families anymore, and merchandise sales are basically non-existant. The attraction itself is very dated and in dire need of an upgrade. So they are looking at spending a lot of money to upgrade an attraction that doesn't really have an audience.

It's not meant to be a critiscm, just an observation.

They've trained their fan base to expect anything and everything to go away eventually. Disney has trained theirs to have a temper tantrums over minor changes. As a result it's why they can make millions of dollars in merch sales by rolling out a decades old rickety chicken wire and phat Christmas lights parade.
 

Mike S

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It's not meant to be a critiscm, just an observation.
I wasn't reading it as such, just continuing the dialogue :)
They've trained their fan base to expect anything and everything to go away eventually. Disney has trained theirs to have a temper tantrums over minor changes. As a result it's why they can make millions of dollars in merch sales by rolling out a decades old rickety chicken wire and phat Christmas lights parade.
That training might be the result of lackluster replacements and the fact that some of the things that have left at Disney left a much longer legacy due to how awe-inspiringly great they were.

Universal, even in their "dark days," replaces with things as good or even better. In my eyes Kongfrontation and Jaws left for great experiences that are very worthy of their legacy. Horizons got replaced with Mission: SPACE, Journey into Imagination with Eric Idle, Alien Encounter with Stitch, and so on. Universal seems to have garnered more trust when they replace stuff.
 

doctornick

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Disney campaigned to get Zootopia nominated for multiple Oscars, including Best Picture, but I guess the Academy wasn't interested.

I feel like based on quality and on the "message" that Zootopia was an animated film that could have been nominated for Best Picture (or even something else like Original Screenplay) but it was probably hurt by coming out so early in 2016. If it had had Moana's Nov release date, it might have had more momentum.

I'm curious to see if Moana can win for Song over La La Land.
 

IanDLBZF

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I feel like based on quality and on the "message" that Zootopia was an animated film that could have been nominated for Best Picture (or even something else like Original Screenplay) but it was probably hurt by coming out so early in 2016. If it had had Moana's Nov release date, it might have had more momentum.
However, Zootopia managed to snag a Golden Globe for Best Animated Motion Picture.
 

Mike S

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When is it scheduled to close? Universal needs their own version of the Great Movie ride!
Been championing for that for the longest time. If Disney wants to unceremoniously axe theirs, Uni should build their own. Replace Terminator with it and have it in the Hollywood section. Take the name from their current nighttime show too and then make a better one with a different name.

"Universal's Cinematic Spectacular"
 

PizzaPlanet

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It just means they can never utilize the nostalgia factor to lure guests in. Which is a bit odd. I guess they feel no one loved old USF? ( I did.).
Universal has no desire to preserve their classics, unfortunately. I will be upset if the rumored Yoshi ride replacing ET is another screen based attraction, as ET is one of Universal's last rides with all physical sets.
 

NearTheEars

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Disney campaigned to get Zootopia nominated for multiple Oscars, including Best Picture, but I guess the Academy wasn't interested.

I liked Zootopia, but have really only had the urge to see it that one time.
Maybe I need to watch again as it continues to get high praise.
Definitely don't think it deserves a BP Oscar, though.

Still, surprised Dory hasn't gotten any love this awards season.
 

Mike S

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Universal has no desire to preserve their classics, unfortunately. I will be upset if the rumored Yoshi ride replacing ET is another screen based attraction, as ET is one of Universal's last rides with all physical sets.
All of Super Nintendo World is rumored to be very minimally screen based if at all currently. Last I read from @WDW1974 on the topic he said the same if that helps.

Over on OU I've also read that Universal is taking guest surveys pretty seriously on this but projects like Fallon and F&F were too far along already.
 

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