A Terror-rific Spirited 13th (ToT fans have lots to fear)...

raymusiccity

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Hunchback was aimed at Broadway. When Schumacher ultimately decided against it, it became available for licensing. Newsies was never intended for Broadway, and we know how that went.

Jungle Book is dead in the water as far as I know. Their most recent project is Freaky Friday, which was created for licensing and opens at La Jolla Playhouse next month.

I love the unintended irony of 'Jungle Book being dead in the water' !
 

Rodan75

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Hunchback was aimed at Broadway. When Schumacher ultimately decided against it, it became available for licensing. Newsies was never intended for Broadway, and we know how that went.

Jungle Book is dead in the water as far as I know. Their most recent project is Freaky Friday, which was created for licensing and opens at La Jolla Playhouse next month.

You would think that the success of the live action Jungle Book would have reanimated the stage adaption. I only ever heard that it was 'okay'.
 

Haymarket2008

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Jungle Book was actually never intended for Broadway. Disney was not very involved in its' development. It was produced and developed by a reputable regional theatre.
Hunchback had a pre-Broadway engagement, produced mainly by Disney, in the late 90's in Berlin that went over quite well, but Disney didn't move forward with it because it was exorbitantly expensive and the material was MUCH darker than the film. Much more in line with the novel. A decade later the brand new, revised Hunchback did have its' sights set on Broadway but Disney wasn't huge on this specific adaptation either. I can't say too much, but the project isn't completely dead.
 

Quinnmac000

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So, um...

I might just wait for Netflix. If even that :facepalm:


Whats exactly wrong with the trailer? They fixed the problem with it being overwhelming minions based to focusing on Gru after complaints about that, this screams to me hit as its hits on people's 80s obsession lately (Stranger Things, reboots of Voltron, Transformers, even 80s Disney films), its plays into the slapstick humor which has been lacking in cinema (not every animated film needs to be overly serious or emotionally deep), and lastly didn't even spoil any of the actual story which is Gru meeting his brother Dru.
 

Rodan75

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Whats exactly wrong with the trailer? They fixed the problem with it being overwhelming minions based to focusing on Gru after complaints about that, this screams to me hit as its hits on people's 80s obsession lately (Stranger Things, reboots of Voltron, Transformers, even 80s Disney films), its plays into the slapstick humor which has been lacking in cinema (not every animated film needs to be overly serious or emotionally deep), and lastly didn't even spoil any of the actual story which is Gru meeting his brother Dru.

I agree, I think this hit the right notes. Overall, though, I'm concerned they have pushed Illumination to ramp production to quickly. I like they can get them out the door without a huge budget and I don't think it hurts the animation quality, however, Secret Life of Pets was immensely disappointing given its potential and early Sing! reviews are mixed at best.
 

Quinnmac000

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I agree, I think this hit the right notes. Overall, though, I'm concerned they have pushed Illumination to ramp production to quickly. I like they can get them out the door without a huge budget and I don't think it hurts the animation quality, however, Secret Life of Pets was immensely disappointing given its potential and early Sing! reviews are mixed at best.

Illumination's problem is they don't really have anyone who actually has experience besides Melandri, majority of their hires are right out of school to come work, create stories, etc for them which is why they are able to keep everything so cheap and able to put so many films out at a time. But that lack of experience is why the stories and gags tend to be extremely broad and safe. I've seen SING, its my third fav animated film this year (Zootopia and Kubo top my list) and illumination realizes it weaknesses and working immensely to fix them.
That's part of the reason they pushed back the Grinch.
 

Mike S

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The first one was great, the second one was okay, and the minions wasn't that great. This one just seems like more of the same, unfortunately.
You think much more highly of DM2 than I do.
Whats exactly wrong with the trailer? They fixed the problem with it being overwhelming minions based to focusing on Gru after complaints about that, this screams to me hit as its hits on people's 80s obsession lately (Stranger Things, reboots of Voltron, Transformers, even 80s Disney films), its plays into the slapstick humor which has been lacking in cinema (not every animated film needs to be overly serious or emotionally deep), and lastly didn't even spoil any of the actual story which is Gru meeting his brother Dru.
It looks like once again they won't hit any of the notes that made me love the first one.
 

ford91exploder

Resident Curmudgeon
I agree, I think this hit the right notes. Overall, though, I'm concerned they have pushed Illumination to ramp production to quickly. I like they can get them out the door without a huge budget and I don't think it hurts the animation quality, however, Secret Life of Pets was immensely disappointing given its potential and early Sing! reviews are mixed at best.

Secret Life of Pets I thought hit all the right notes it was silly slapstick fun with a lot of sight gags. I expected to come out laughing and I did.

Zootopia was a lot better movie which explored a great many adult themes as well as lampooning governments. I'd say Zootopia was the best animated movie this year. Even if it did have elements of Castle in its storyline
 

Rodan75

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Illumination's problem is they don't really have anyone who actually has experience besides Melandri, majority of their hires are right out of school to come work, create stories, etc for them which is why they are able to keep everything so cheap and able to put so many films out at a time. But that lack of experience is why the stories and gags tend to be extremely broad and safe. I've seen SING, its my third fav animated film this year (Zootopia and Kubo top my list) and illumination realizes it weaknesses and working immensely to fix them.
That's part of the reason they pushed back the Grinch.

I'm assuming that single-threadedness is why they bought DWA. I think Melandri is a genius with animated comedy and would prefer quality rather than quantity. DWA gives them more capacity to make movies and synergize more quickly on TV and merchandising opportunities.

Glad to hear you liked Sing. I'm looking forward to it, but after finally seeing SLoP, my expectations are lower. I haven't seen Kubo yet. Loved Zootopia and Moana, meh on Dory.
 

brb1006

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I'm assuming that single-threadedness is why they bought DWA. I think Melandri is a genius with animated comedy and would prefer quality rather than quantity. DWA gives them more capacity to make movies and synergize more quickly on TV and merchandising opportunities.

Glad to hear you liked Sing. I'm looking forward to it, but after finally seeing SLoP, my expectations are lower. I haven't seen Kubo yet. Loved Zootopia and Moana, meh on Dory.
I'm planning on seeing Sing sometime before Christmas. I wonder who voices the female rabbit trio?
 

DDLand

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Impressions on Rogue One.

Consider the fanboy frenzy fed. Fanboys will love it. More casual fans may be surprised or put off. This is more episode 3 level of intensity and darkness than 4,5,6,7. Not that the acting or direction is similiar to three, but from tone. It will be interesting to see if kids/families take to the film.

This is not 7 or the typical Marvel movie either.

I can see why Iger initially recoiled and resorted to safer Han Solo material for further films. Even if this film does well, I doubt we see much more of this. Rogue One should be "one" of a kind.

If this was the less dark version, I'd be interested to see the pre reshoot version. That must have been a blood bath.

Settings and places were fantastic. The cinematography was gorgeous. The visuals are truly striking. Acting very very well done. The ensemble really shined. The two main leads both have great performances.

I will give this disappointing news, no Jar Jar! ;)
 
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The_Jobu

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Impressions on Rogue One.

Consider the fanboy frenzy fed. Fanboys will love it. More casual fans may be surprised or put off. This is more episode 3 level of intensity and darkness than 4,5,6,7. Not that the acting or direction is similiar to three, but from tone. It will be interesting to see if kids/families take to the film.

This is not 7 or the typical Marvel movie either.

I can see why Iger initially recoiled and resorted to safer Han Solo material for further films. Even if this film does well, I doubt we see much more of this. Rogue One should be "one" of a kind.

If this was the less dark version, I'd be interested to see the pre reshoot version. That must have been a blood bath.

I will give this disappointing news, no Jar Jar! ;)

There's probably good market for a double-dip on this. Release the theatrical version, wait a year, release the "uncut director's version" and count the monies.
 

BrianLo

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Impressions on Rogue One.

Consider the fanboy frenzy fed. Fanboys will love it. More casual fans may be surprised or put off. This is more episode 3 level of intensity and darkness than 4,5,6,7. Not that the acting or direction is similiar to three, but from tone. It will be interesting to see if kids/families take to the film.

This is not 7 or the typical Marvel movie either.

I can see why Iger initially recoiled and resorted to safer Han Solo material for further films. Even if this film does well, I doubt we see much more of this. Rogue One should be "one" of a kind.

If this was the less dark version, I'd be interested to see the pre reshoot version. That must have been a blood bath.

Settings and places were fantastic. The cinematography was gorgeous. The visuals are truly striking. Acting very very well done. The ensemble really shined. The two main leads both have great performances.

I will give this disappointing news, no Jar Jar! ;)

I am going to use even less spoilers, but I realize people don't want to hear much of anything...

I really came out of that movie believing all the rumors were actually bull. Quite a few reputable sites seemed to say so along the way. I truly think the reshoots were overblown especially on the heels of Sucide Squad, which actually reshot and destroyed their movie in the process.

Iger's comments at the premiere were that they wanted a different movie tonally. Rogue One was starkly different than VII.

I really don't see how it could get much more violent and still cling onto a PG-13 rating. I'm mostly just impressed that they truly didn't hold back. Even the comic relief met their assigned fate.

Not a spoiler at all, but @ford91exploder you definitely were off the mark with Disney toddlerizing the franchise on this one.
 

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