A Terror-rific Spirited 13th (ToT fans have lots to fear)...

[GoofGoof]

And Indy fits in AK because, why? Snakes? That's weak.

I think they ate monkey brains in one of the movies (temple of doom?)

 

[Disneyhead'71]

And Indy fits in AK because, why? Snakes? That's weak.

I think there is a horse too. Maybe.

 

[Quinnmac000]

Indiana Jones lacks the focus on nature. AK is more than just Adventureland annex.

Zootopia is all about nature (nature vs nuture, predator vs prey) and included animals to the point of no humans but that was argued it didn't belong in AK but DHS. So.....If Zootopia can go in DHS, Indy surely can go into AK, as it has a horse and snakes, and ants who attacked him in the 4th film etc.

 

[MisterPenguin]

And Indy fits in AK because, why? Snakes? That's weak.

In the next sequel, Indy meets Tarzan and learns how to talk to the animals to stop Dr. Moreau from using animal-human hybrids from taking over the world in "Indiana Jones: Amazing Jungle Animals and Where to Find Them."

 

[The Empress Lilly]

I think there is a horse too. Maybe.

That would make it a great fit for the Diamond Horseshoe!!1

 

[The Empress Lilly]

News Flash: We can talk about changing castles, but how about changing It's a Small Worlds?

Tokyo Disneyland has announced that they will add about 40 Disney characters to It's a Small World. I expect that Tokyo's change will be similar to Disneyland's in 2008, though Disneyland only added 29 characters (unless more have been added since). DL's version does not have Anna and Elsa... but do not fear! Tokyo's will.

They're also going to be adding in tunes from the characters' movies. Google translate tells me that "music reminiscent of the name scene of the movie will be incorporated into the song of 'small world'." I expect this part to be like DL's too.

I only hope that this change is not brought to MK.

*edited for accuracy

It's 'Walt Disney's "it's a small world"', not 'It's a Small Disney Toontown'.

IASW tells a different story than the inserted characters. Well that should be 'than the characters', singular, these tell another story, that of Hidden Character Spotting. Which is a fine enough game (not really, but ok), but diminishes the effect of IASW. It's not plussing, but mining.

It's not for want of characters that Walt build toonless rides.

Unsettling here is that it is the OLC that asks for characters. With IASIPW, Frozenland, BatBland. Not TWDC, which benefits more directly from synergy than the OLC. Which benefits only indirectly replacing their rides for IP-driven ones, from recognisability and marketability. One would be led to the conclusion that it is the modern audience itself which demands and expects rides with visible characters.

 

[wdisney9000]

Sleeping Beauty Castle is not an important civic structure or governmental structure built for the Main Street storyline. Rather, its reveal is intended to further the narrative of the park as a whole.

The castle is intentionally hidden from the outside of the park, to represent a sort of "curtain reveal" when you finally turn the corner to look down the extension of Main Street. But note that when you enter Main Street, USA, the Castle is still not in view because you enter the town from the sides of the Main Street Station - building up anticipation to this reveal. This makes the Town Square the organizational foundation that then is expanded upon over time, following the land's story.

A civic structure is for the facilitation of interaction within a community. It could be a castle, a courthouse or even a lemonade stand.

The "reveal", the progression through time, architecture, music and even the civic structure (castle) are all part of a much larger narrative. Isolating one specific component of it to disprove another is borderline fallacy.

 

[brb1006]

It's 'Walt Disney's "it's a small world"', not 'It's a Small Disney Toontown'.

IASW tells a different story than the inserted characters. Well that should be 'than the characters', singular, these tell another story, that of Hidden Character Spotting. Which is a fine enough game (not really, but ok), but diminishes the effect of IASW. It's not plussing, but mining.

It's not for want of characters that Walt build toonless rides.

Unsettling here is that it is the OLC that asks for characters. With IASIPW, Frozenland, BatBland. Not TWDC, which benefits more directly from synergy than the OLC. Which benefits only indirectly replacing their rides for IP-driven ones, from recognisability and marketability. One would be led to the conclusion that it is the modern audience itself which demands and expects rides with visible characters.

I think OLC wants the Disney characters in there version of It's A Small World since various Disney characters are spotted on various floats of the Small World finale in there night parade Tokyo Disneyland Electrical Parade Dreamlights (Such as Donald driving the Steamboat, Chip N Dale on the Blimp Float). So while it may not make sense to use it might work for the Japanese Disney community.

 

[brb1006]

News Flash: We can talk about changing castles, but how about changing It's a Small Worlds?

Tokyo Disneyland has announced that they will add about 40 Disney characters to It's a Small World. I expect that Tokyo's change will be similar to Disneyland's in 2008, though Disneyland only added 29 characters (unless more have been added since). DL's version does not have Anna and Elsa... but do not fear! Tokyo's will.

They're also going to be adding in tunes from the characters' movies. Google translate tells me that "music reminiscent of the name scene of the movie will be incorporated into the song of 'small world'." I expect this part to be like DL's too.

I only hope that this change is not brought to MK.

*edited for accuracy

OLC must have approved of this change since other Disney characters are on the Small World finale of Dreamlights.

 

[The Empress Lilly]

I think OLC wants the Disney characters in there version of It's A Small World since various Disney characters are spotted on various floats of the Small World finale in there night parade Tokyo Disneyland Electrical Parade Dreamlights. So while it may not make sense to use it might work for the Japanese Disney community.

Watching TDL is like the icebucket challenge. A rude awakening. Between four parks WDW manages one parade, and a pretty lame one at that. Meanwhile Tokyo has that. ^^^^ Stylish, delightfully harkening back to MSEP, modern, overwhelming.

I'm sure Avatar and SW will prove to be no-expense spared experiences, great if you can afford $650 extra for the full experience, but this video just rubs in what two decades of penny pinching and a 'good enough' attitude has meant for WDW.

 

[spacemt354]

I said nothing about Sleeping Beauty Castle being an important civic structure in the narrative of Main Street, USA.

Yes you did...

I did not call the Castle a governmental structure, I said it takes the place of an important civic structure

And to comment on this,

A civic structure is for the facilitation of interaction within a community. It could be a castle, a courthouse or even a lemonade stand.

The "reveal", the progression through time, architecture, music and even the civic structure (castle) are all part of a much larger narrative. Isolating one specific component of it to disprove another is borderline fallacy.

I don't know what point is trying to be proven anymore. If you want to infer the Castle being a civic structure in the narrative of Main Street (or not?) or that it would be thematically relevant on a Main Street in the Midwest, that's fine - that's what makes the Disney Parks great, is that people can find their own interpretations. But the only thing fallacious is continuing this nonsensical debate.

 

[No Name]

It's 'Walt Disney's "it's a small world"', not 'It's a Small Disney Toontown'.

IASW tells a different story than the inserted characters. Well that should be 'than the characters', singular, these tell another story, that of Hidden Character Spotting. Which is a fine enough game (not really, but ok), but diminishes the effect of IASW. It's not plussing, but mining.

It's not for want of characters that Walt build toonless rides.

Unsettling here is that it is the OLC that asks for characters. With IASIPW, Frozenland, BatBland. Not TWDC, which benefits more directly from synergy than the OLC. Which benefits only indirectly replacing their rides for IP-driven ones, from recognisability and marketability. One would be led to the conclusion that it is the modern audience itself which demands and expects rides with visible characters.

Great post.

I imagine some people accuse us at wdwmagic of trying to hold back what used to be. They accuse us of not accepting the future simply because it's different than we grew up with. And while that's occasionally true, here it is so clearly not!
The reason for our disapproval isn't because they're changing something, it's because the change takes away from the meaning of the ride. It's a Small World is about world peace and unity, not about finding the location of your favorite Disney characters.

I do find OLC's movie-character obsession unsettling. I started to type something up on that but I don't have the time to finsih it, it will be for another day.

OLC must have approved of this change since other Disney characters are on the Small World finale of Dreamlights.

OLC decides on and approves of all changes to the resort, since they fully own it. Sometimes Disney tries swaying them into doing something, but at the end of the day, it's OLC's call. That's what makes this particularly interesting and unsettling.

 

[rael ramone]

And Indy fits in AK because, why? Snakes? That's weak.

Indy fits in AK the same way it fits in the Japanese pavillion and the same way it fits in Liberty Square. It's IP. That's all that matters to them...

 

[JohnD]

And Indy fits in AK because, why? Snakes? That's weak.

Because DINOSAUR is already the same track as DL's Indy ride. If you retheme to Dinoland to S. Am., retheme DINOSAUR to Indy. The difference is that the DL ride is in India. I can imagine the Hovetos (sp?), piranhas, etc. in the ride. Add S. Am. animals as previously suggested.

 

[JohnD]

I too want to see Indy in that spot, but I came up with a crazy idea where Indy would go into a temple of Dinosaurs. It would be an archeologist meets paleontologist attraction. Better yet, it would be an original story using an existing IP!

I'm good with it. Just working with ideas if re-themed as South America. Your idea works if the area stays Dinoland.

 

[Soarin' Over Pgh]

I think OLC wants the Disney characters in there version of It's A Small World since various Disney characters are spotted on various floats of the Small World finale in there night parade Tokyo Disneyland Electrical Parade Dreamlights (Such as Donald driving the Steamboat, Chip N Dale on the Blimp Float). So while it may not make sense to use it might work for the Japanese Disney community.

...as cute as the Toy Story and Monsters inc. floats are.... That Tangled one really does it for me! What a cute parade!

Watching TDL is like the icebucket challenge. A rude awakening. Between four parks WDW manages one parade, and a pretty lame one at that. Meanwhile Tokyo has that. ^^^^ Stylish, delightfully harkening back to MSEP, modern, overwhelming.

I'm sure Avatar and SW will prove to be no-expense spared experiences, great if you can afford $650 extra for the full experience, but this video just rubs in what two decades of penny pinching and a 'good enough' attitude has meant for WDW.

I can't help but feel bitter. Disney is definitely separating classes within its property and it's really starting to show (and hurt!) within the theme parks.

I really hope there isn't an after hours (read: evening/nights, having the park close early) at AK with 'premiere park experiences' or what tacky keywords they would attach to give those who pony up extra $$$$ plenty of time in Pandora- and leaving only a few days a week for the rest of us "cheapskates" to pay $100 park only ticket and experience the same thing. It's concerning. Nothing says this is the case but when they set up tents in Tomorrowland is there really a breaking point left?

 

[zakattack99]

You mean "Rogue" (miscreant) not "Rouge" (makeup).

Lol thanks for the correction... I would blame auto correct on the phone, but yes my spelling is just that bad!

Anyway. fandango is showing that it opens at 7pm in my area! l

 

[Mike S]

Because DINOSAUR is already the same track as DL's Indy ride. If you retheme to Dinoland to S. Am., retheme DINOSAUR to Indy. The difference is that the DL ride is in India. I can imagine the Hovetos (sp?), piranhas, etc. in the ride. Add S. Am. animals as previously suggested.

I understand that, but I'm talking theming wise. How does Indiana Jones work in the nature focus of Animal Kingdom?

 

[GoofGoof]

I understand that, but I'm talking theming wise. How does Indiana Jones work in the nature focus of Animal Kingdom?

Indiana Jones was named after the family dog

It has no connection to AK really. Perfect fit for Adventureland though or maybe a new "land" in the soon to be IP park with the other Lucas Films properties.

 

[Brer Oswald]

Zootopia is all about nature (nature vs nuture, predator vs prey) and included animals to the point of no humans but that was argued it didn't belong in AK but DHS. So.....If Zootopia can go in DHS, Indy surely can go into AK, as it has a horse and snakes, and ants who attacked him in the 4th film etc.

I argued for both...