A Terror-rific Spirited 13th (ToT fans have lots to fear)...

[Daveeeeed]

Guys seriously? This is a huge improvement. They ripped off a classic castle 50 years later and somehow made it worse.

 

[No Name]

An MK-style park's identity stems from castle. It's what's shown in articles, it's what everyone has pictures with, and it's the first thing that comes to mind when most think of the park. Each park should have its own identity. Simple as that. That's my first point.

Here's my second point. You might say the castle works in California, so why doesn't it work in Hong Kong? Well, in a park full of history, legacy, and tradition, built by Walt himself over 60 years ago... the original castle can be seen as quaint. People grew up with it as a child. However, in a park built barely over a decade ago... that same castle is simply small. People don't have the same level of affection for it. SDL severly amplifies the problem, making HKDL look like the weaker of the two China parks.

I believe that each park should have its own identity. I also believe that each park should be given the same love and treatment, and one should not look significantly weaker than another. People say that this whole ordeal is emblamatic of Iger's ego, but I say they are moreso fixing a poor mistake by Eisner. And better to fix it sooner than later.

So, regardless of whether you like the look of the new design... I hope you agree that the change, in general, should happen.

 

[MisterPenguin]

Andre is in all likelihood one of Celebration Place's 'Social Media Analysts' whose job it is to shape the narrative in Disney's favor on social media platforms like this one

I've seen Disney's social media presence and it is abominable. Their Press Release site puts out information on just a tenth of the stuff that's happening, and does so late. Their Daily Blog site is mostly fluff and glurge and is, surprisingly, their main source of publishing official news. And they do that often late. And with incorrect information. The Blogger who posts a news article answers questions for one day and then drops out of sight. And we all know how up to date their online calendars are...

I find it hard to believe they have the time or competency to engage in covert social media ops.

 

[rioriz]

I like the new castle, i like HK DL (prob my fav park behind AK, DS, and DL). will judge it more when all done

 

[Californian Elitist]

"The Sword in the Stone bad?" The Sword in the Stone is witty and hilarious. Love that movie.

I happen to enjoy both Oliver and Company and The Black Cauldron. I'd rather watch those films than a couple of Disney's more contemporary ones.

 

[andre85]

Andre is in all likelihood one of Celebration Place's 'Social Media Analysts' whose job it is to shape the narrative in Disney's favor on social media platforms like this one Usually a few 'Tell your boss in Celebration Place that you failed miserably' will drive them off if they are indeed a 'Social Media Analyst' because once their cover is blown they will switch to a new account,

Some of them are simply pixie dusters who don't post much, Those guys I can respect agree with no but respect yes, I have a real problem with corporate operatives trying to shape public perception by stealth.

A conspiracy theory from the same person who argued Disney might have changed RoL's name in order to defend a wrong rumor. Perhaps I really shouldn't be surprised

 

[GoofGoof]

Guys seriously? This is a huge improvement. They ripped off a classic castle 50 years later and somehow made it worse.

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I'm glad you said this. I was thinking the same thing but was afraid I was a weirdo with bad taste since everyone else seems very opposed to it.

Now I'm just a weirdo

 

[GoofGoof]

A conspiracy theory from the same person who argued Disney might have changed RoL's name in order to defend a wrong rumor. Perhaps I really shouldn't be surprised

Don't take it personal. He's our resident curmudgeon and head conspiracy theorist. His tinfoil hats have their own tinfoil hats. If you are around long enough he grows on you and occasionally he's actually right.

 

[brb1006]

"The Sword in the Stone bad?" The Sword in the Stone is witty and hilarious. Love that movie.

I happen to enjoy both Oliver and Company and The Black Cauldron. I'd rather watch those films than a couple of Disney's more contemporary ones.

I still wish Merlin came out again to do the lifting of the Sword at Disneyland again.

 

[lazyboy97o]

An MK-style park's identity stems from castle. It's what's shown in articles, it's what everyone has pictures with, and it's the first thing that comes to mind when most think of the park. Each park should have its own identity. Simple as that. That's my first point.

Here's my second point. You might say the castle works in California, so why doesn't it work in Hong Kong? Well, in a park full of history, legacy, and tradition, built by Walt himself over 60 years ago... the original castle can be seen as quaint. People grew up with it as a child. However, in a park built barely over a decade ago... that same castle is simply small. People don't have the same level of affection for it. SDL severly amplifies the problem, making HKDL look like the weaker of the two China parks.

I believe that each park should have its own identity. I also believe that each park should be given the same love and treatment, and one should not look significantly weaker than another. People say that this whole ordeal is emblamatic of Iger's ego, but I say they are moreso fixing a poor mistake by Eisner. And better to fix it sooner than later.

So, regardless of whether you like the look of the new design... I hope you agree that the change, in general, should happen.

Ignoring context should not be excused simply because it will be something different. The rest of the park was built a certain way. The Castle now completely ignoring any sense of cohesion is highly emblematic of Disney's current direction.

 

[Daveeeeed]

An MK-style park's identity stems from castle. It's what's shown in articles, it's what everyone has pictures with, and it's the first thing that comes to mind when most think of the park. Each park should have its own identity. Simple as that. That's my first point.

Here's my second point. You might say the castle works in California, so why doesn't it work in Hong Kong? Well, in a park full of history, legacy, and tradition, built by Walt himself over 60 years ago... the original castle can be seen as quaint. People grew up with it as a child. However, in a park built barely over a decade ago... that same castle is simply small. People don't have the same level of affection for it. SDL severly amplifies the problem, making HKDL look like the weaker of the two China parks.

I believe that each park should have its own identity. I also believe that each park should be given the same love and treatment, and one should not look significantly weaker than another. People say that this whole ordeal is emblamatic of Iger's ego, but I say they are moreso fixing a poor mistake by Eisner. And better to fix it sooner than later.

So, regardless of whether you like the look of the new design... I hope you agree that the change, in general, should happen.

Agreed, this has nothing to do with Iger, it has to do with the Hong Kong government wanting a castle that is very good even when compared to Shanghai, it works in Disneyland because it is historic, but that should be the only one.

I'm glad you said this. I was thinking the same thing but was afraid I was a weirdo with bad taste since everyone else seems very opposed to it.

Now I'm just a weirdo

Thanks, and I'm glad I said it too. It was done on the cheap and now that they are fixing it it is seen as a bad thing? Thankfully others agree that change was needed. It also sort of has a MYSTIC MANOR flair to it, so although it obviously is not as good as Cinderella Castle, it is a huge improvement and will give the park its identity.

 

[GoofGoof]

Ignoring context should not be excused simply because it will be something different. The rest of the park was built a certain way. The Castle now completely ignoring any sense of cohesion is highly emblematic of Disney's current direction.

Is the issue the size of the new castle or the look? I've never been to HKDL so I don't know if a much larger castle will cause sight line issues in other parts of the park. As far as the look, is the surrounding area a clone of DL as well? Just trying to understand how the DL clone castle created cohesion.

I think every MK park should have a unique castle. This solves the issue for HK.

 

[Daveeeeed]

Is the issue the size of the new castle or the look? I've never been to HKDL so I don't know if a much larger castle will cause sight line issues in other parts of the park. As far as the look, is the surrounding area a clone of DL as well? Just trying to understand how the DL clone castle created cohesion.

I think every MK park should have a unique castle. This solves the issue for HK.

Cinderella Castle in Tokyo and Orlando are probably the exceptions as it works so well for Tokyo and the MK. Disneyland Paris' castle is incredible and it flow so well with he parks style. But Hong Kong was just a way to make it cheap sadly along with DCA and AK. Thankfully all three of those parks are soon to be some of the best in the world. And Disneyland remains the classic it has always been.

 

[PhotoDave219]

Two words: Billy Joel.

Miami 2017.

 

[Cesar R M]

Spoiler: How to spot the Easter Egg, not what it is

In addition to the extra scene, in the credits itself is an Easter Egg, which when you see it will be obvious, it's not in the small print, but you can be lulled into missing it.

allright thanks!

 

[Cesar R M]

I've been way out of the loop. What are we outraged about this week?

We have a very varied list that you will enjoy perusing for your pleasure.

 

[flyerjab]

I'm glad you said this. I was thinking the same thing but was afraid I was a weirdo with bad taste since everyone else seems very opposed to it.

Now I'm just a weirdo

I really like it also, especially the light color scheme and the shape of some of the domes on the towers. I think it is unique and am glad that they are improving this park overall.

 

[GoofGoof]

Cinderella Castle in Tokyo and Orlando are probably the exceptions as it works so well for Tokyo and the MK. Disneyland Paris' castle is incredible and it flow so well with he parks style. But Hong Kong was just a way to make it cheap sadly along with DCA and AK. Thankfully all three of those parks are soon to be some of the best in the world. And Disneyland remains the classic it has always been.

I forgot those were clones. I wouldn't say it's necessary to change that. It's just neat to see the different castle designs.

 

[Cesar R M]

Thats pretty. I dont see it happening in the Domestic Parks tho.

Oh yeah.... cabanas. Great idea, horrible execution. If i'm paying $700, it better not be for a tent.

Id be worth if it includes a waiter that is also a cosplayer of slave Leia in tomorrowland.

 

[Cesar R M]

A conspiracy theory from the same person who argued Disney might have changed RoL's name in order to defend a wrong rumor. Perhaps I really shouldn't be surprised

We've had a few guys entering in quite a few threads with fake accounts. Its not that hard. You can ask steve about this. He has banned quite a few.
There are also well known pariahs whose job 24/7 seem to ruin the threads with nosense and have been banned too (and they still come back).

So its not that all of "conspiracy" levels.
Hell, having "PR bots" is a common thing now. You can literally purchase the services of botters online to do PR for you and make fake buzz to influence social sites.
Our inept president does it all the time (Mexico). to try to save face for his robberies. He literally as an army of them.

And lets be honest.. if Disney's PR can afford to churn millions in a tiny group with almost null views called "mommy bloggers". They can for sure hire PR manipulation techniques.

anyway, thread wise.. I'm sorta ok with the new castle.
It looks like MK's Cinderella's with its own touch of difference Kinda a mixture of east european castles (with a touch of Russian).