A Spirited Valentine ...

[SJN1279]

I find that a stupid idea.. rewriting history for the sake of "political correctness" is dumb. People forget what happened and when people forget history and their lessons..they tend to repeat the same mistakes.

But I'm all for a new show scene, possibly tied into the movies.

 

[tirian]

But I'm all for a new show scene, possibly tied into the movies.

But must it replace one of the most famous scenes in the ride?

 

[Daveeeeed]

Pre-existing connections to a brand are not the only ones. The experience itself can and should create its own connection.

Which it does...

 

[RoysCabin]

Have a feeling that "political correctness" isn't really playing much into things; much more likely it's something centering on adding movie tie-in potential.

 

[Phil12]

Have a feeling that "political correctness" isn't really playing much into things; much more likely it's something centering on adding movie tie-in potential.

Exactly. Also, Depp is a major star and deserves top billing. The entire attraction should revolve around Captain Jack Sparrow from beginning to end. Walt's most likely rolling over in his cryogenic chamber because of the slow IP integration.

 

[yensidtlaw1969]

Exactly. Also, Depp is a major star and deserves top billing. The entire attraction should revolve around Captain Jack Sparrow from beginning to end. Walt's most likely rolling over in his cryogenic chamber because of the slow IP integration.

If Walt was so desperate to involve IP, his Pirates ride would have been about Treasure Island from the beginning. No one's thawing from any deep freeze over this.

 

[misterID]

Have a feeling that "political correctness" isn't really playing much into things; much more likely it's something centering on adding movie tie-in potential.

Nah, this was an issue before the film. Those pirates used to chase the ladies. We used to have Dixie Landings. There are too many sensitive souls who take things too literal, too serious, who don't understand nuance, and they ruin everything to satisfy their own sensitivities. It's why we have such rude entitled buttheads. One of the funniest, most original scenes ever in a theme park attraction pulled off by AAs and they're going to dump it for nothing. Terrible.

Hey Disney, "We wants the redhead!"

 

[Astro Blaster]

I find that a stupid idea.. rewriting history for the sake of "political correctness" is dumb. People forget what happened and when people forget history and their lessons..they tend to repeat the same mistakes.

Plus they burn an entire village. Clearly that is "bad"...one may say even worse than auctioning brides - are they going to remove that too?! Maybe just rename the ride "People of the Caribbean" and just have the characters wave at you as you sail by.

 

[Cousin Huet]

Losing that scene, the best scene in the ride would be an absolute tragedy as far as theme parks and Disney are concerned but nothing surprises me anymore as certain segments of society will stop at nothing to destroy all fun and mold everything to their special interest.

The Flag Retreat will probably be next as it offends so many of the anti-America crowd. Leave no sacred ground un-torched

 

[Kman101]

Have their really been that many complaints about that scene? I guess it doesn't surprise me anymore.

 

[Animaniac93-98]

Rumor going around that Disneyland Paris's Pirates might be losing their auction scene because political correctness and movie synergy and this might come over to the other parks.

http://disneyandmore.blogspot.com/2017/06/will-disneyland-paris-pirates-of.html

The political correctness angle makes no sense for DLP. The Paris version still had the old chase scene prior to this refurbishment. I don't think the French are really concerned about such things. The movie tie-in excuse makes more sense.

 

[Animaniac93-98]

Have their really been that many complaints about that scene? I guess it doesn't surprise me anymore.

One is quoted in the current edition of The Unofficial Guide.

 

[Phil12]

If Walt was so desperate to involve IP, his Pirates ride would have been about Treasure Island from the beginning. No one's thawing from any deep freeze over this.

Sorry, but Long John Silver is a public domain character and Robert Newton made a non-Disney sequel in 1954. Walt wouldn't be stupid enough to put Newton's portrayal of Long John in his 1967 Disneyland PoC.

On the other hand, Captain Jack Sparrow is owned by Di$ney and Depp is not free to portray the character for anyone except Di$ney.

In short, Disney has never owned the IP for Treasure Island. Glad I could help clear that up for you!

 

[Daveeeeed]

Sorry, but Long John Silver is a public domain character and Robert Newton made a non-Disney sequel in 1954. Walt wouldn't be stupid enough to put Newton's portrayal of Long John in his 1967 Disneyland PoC.

On the other hand, Captain Jack Sparrow is owned by Di$ney and Depp is not free to portray the character for anyone except Di$ney.

In short, Disney has never owned the IP for Treasure Island. Glad I could help clear that up for you!

Ever heard of Peter Pan, Sleeping Beauty, Snow White, Cinderella, The Little Mermaid???

How about the Matterhorn? If something is in the public domain that would be it.

 

[yensidtlaw1969]

Sorry, but Long John Silver is a public domain character and Robert Newton made a non-Disney sequel in 1954. Walt wouldn't be stupid enough to put Newton's portrayal of Long John in his 1967 Disneyland PoC.

On the other hand, Captain Jack Sparrow is owned by Di$ney and Depp is not free to portray the character for anyone except Di$ney.

In short, Disney has never owned the IP for Treasure Island. Glad I could help clear that up for you!

You're right, Walt Disney is restless in his grave because Johnny Depp hasn't been slathered enough over every Pirates Ride in the Disneyverse. How tremendously foolish of me. Your assessment is not beside the point at all.

 

[GhostHost1000]

If they remove that entire scene they might as well redo the entire ride

 

[MisterPenguin]

If they remove that entire scene they might as well redo the entire ride

#ThanksShangai!

 

[ford91exploder]

Pre-existing connections to a brand are not the only ones. The experience itself can and should create its own connection.

And if it does not its a failure, Its why Spiderman works you go through a small 1960's newspaper at night get your 'assignment' and bam there you are in spidermans world. And then you leave and your editor is acting like an editor

Spiderman works because of the story and the ride 'tells' the story you dont need to be a spiderman fan to understand the story

 

[Kman101]

And in FOP you're linked to a banshee and fly over Pandora. It's an easy to follow ride with the explanation given in the pre-show rooms. It's not complicated.

 

[ford91exploder]

It's because some Somali Pirates said Disney was stereotyping their culture, and some people want to make sure that we don't stereotype pirates.

Some MK 48's into the pirated ships and soon there would be no pirates hard on the crews but the pirates kill most of them so on balance the same result for the crews of pirated ships.

Notice they dont pirate Russian ships because the Russians sank their own ships as a message.