A Spirited Valentine ...

ford91exploder

Resident Curmudgeon
Zzz. Same old schtick. You haven't ridden it.

Nope and I have NO INTENTION OF EVER RIDING IT. Such is my level of digust for the source material.

As for those who said no matter what I said about avatar id be there riding it well Bzzzt wrong.

I just find a delicious irony that an anti-capitalist screed like Avatar is the current showpiece of Disney one of the greediest corporations on the planet.
 
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Kman101

Well-Known Member
Nope and I have NO INTENTION OF EVER RIDING IT. Such is my level of digust for the source material.

As for those who said no matter what I said about avatar id be there riding it well Bzzzt wrong.

I just find a delicious irony that an anti-capitalist screed like Avatar is the current showpiece of Disney one of the greediest corporations on the planet.

Well ... good for you? then ... that'll show em ... too bad you can't channel all of this into doing something productive in regards to making a change at how the company is run.
 

flynnibus

Premium Member
And in Other News

Disney may be prohibited from distributibg or using Guardians of The Galaxy, Beauty and the Beast, Age of Ultron IP,

because face capture technology allegedly stolen by a Chinese firm was integral for their production apparently US studios were warned about this but Disney chose to ignore the warning other US studios did heed the warning.

Oopsie all that valuable MARVEL IP just turned to dust and ashes because Iger followed the demands of his Chinese masters.


Source:
http://www.hollywoodreporter.com/th...njunction-bid-three-blockbuster-films-1021841

Can we leave the click-bait 'headlines' out of this forum? It's bad enough I have to wade through that kind of crap in social media... keep it out of here. This is a lawsuit filed... and claims made... not half the crap you added to the inevitable. I guess ignore is probably the best outcome here...
 

Cousin Huet

Well-Known Member
Well ... good for you? then ... that'll show em ... too bad you can't channel all of this into doing something productive in regards to making a change at how the company is run.

Can everyone just declare this cat the winner and right and a theme park genius so they can leave and go chase a ball of yarn? This pssycat mucks a lot of threads up with his litter.
 

Little Green Men

Well-Known Member
Nope and I have NO INTENTION OF EVER RIDING IT. Such is my level of digust for the source material.

As for those who said no matter what I said about avatar id be there riding it well Bzzzt wrong.

I just find a delicious irony that an anti-capitalist screed like Avatar is the current showpiece of Disney one of the greediest corporations on the planet.
LMAOOOOOO you are so full of it!!!!
 

the.dreamfinder

Well-Known Member
The Mandarin language production of "The Lion King" at SDR's Disneytown will close this October. New Broadway musical (Beauty and the Beast?) coming in 2018.
http://tdrexplorer.com/lion-king-musical-close-shanghai-disneyland/

One wonders how much of this early closure, they were offering generous discounts on tickets at one point, can be attributed to Disneytown's location far away from the SDR metro station given the struggles of other vendors.
 
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ford91exploder

Resident Curmudgeon
Avatar actually fits perfectly at the park, and has ZERO connection to the movie's characters. Flight of Passage is completely different as you are pushed into the screen, so you are essentially 100% surrounded by the screen. It also has a motion base more akin to Simpsons, and the queue, land, and visuals are so good you forget you are about to ride/riding a simulator. Not to mention the effects throughout and that it is a unique type of ride for the park. It's ironically better than every single one of Universal's combined:p.

Why don't you go back to Disney World for the 50th, and see if you'll be so sad as a Disney fan. Yes, I understand you're not a troll as it is troubling how Disney has changed something that you care about so deeply, but as a fan to never want to experience something again is actually overkill. Especially if many changes like Pandora, TRON, and Star Wars have no faults as far as placement. GMR being replaced, and EPCOT Center as a whole is what's changing, but part of that is also linked to changing what the parks stand for. They're evolving, maybe not the way we like them, but they are getting quality additions. That's a big deal, and if you can afford it, why not check it out to see if they're different, but also pretty awesome. Maintenance is far superior to what it was a few years ago, and there will be loads of new rides.

I actually wonder at times why I still care what happens at WDW, other than owning 800 DVC points which i will probably sell sooner than later. But I make money renting em out for now.

As to DL used to visit regularly back when I had a premier passport so whenever i was in the LA area I used to drop by.

back in 2015 i was so disgusted by the cuts, cheap IP overlays and price increases. I just said why are we paying nearly 5000 bucks a year for this crap and endless visits to GR to fix technical glitches

Unfortunately WDW is now seen more as a 'rite of passage' and not a 'resort' in classic terms. And Disney is responding logically to this, however the logical response is not the correct one and its damaging the brand. But given that going forward cheap IP based attractions are the wave of the future as opposed to the immersive experiences once common at WDW.

Its ironic that Disney is now pushing their 360 concept when their attractions are less immersive than ever.

As to new stuff for the 50'th i don't belive more than a third of it will happen

As to bad things happening financially to Disney ive watched a lot of big companies fail over the years and Disney is showing all the signs if you are looking for them and ignoring the shiny baubles dangled to distract.

Its for this reason more than any other ill sell my DVC as sales and reorgs are typically not kind to timeshare owners
 

MaximumEd

Well-Known Member
I actually wonder at times why I still care what happens at WDW, other than owning 800 DVC points which i will probably sell sooner than later. But I make money renting em out for now.

As to DL used to visit regularly back when I had a premier passport so whenever i was in the LA area I used to drop by.

back in 2015 i was so disgusted by the cuts, cheap IP overlays and price increases. I just said why are we paying nearly 5000 bucks a year for this crap and endless visits to GR to fix technical glitches

Unfortunately WDW is now seen more as a 'rite of passage' and not a 'resort' in classic terms. And Disney is responding logically to this, however the logical response is not the correct one and its damaging the brand. But given that going forward cheap IP based attractions are the wave of the future as opposed to the immersive experiences once common at WDW.

Its ironic that Disney is now pushing their 360 concept when their attractions are less immersive than ever.

As to new stuff for the 50'th i don't belive more than a third of it will happen

As to bad things happening financially to Disney ive watched a lot of big companies fail over the years and Disney is showing all the signs if you are looking for them and ignoring the shiny baubles dangled to distract.

Its for this reason more than any other ill sell my DVC as sales and reorgs are typically not kind to timeshare owners

Not trying to be a jerk, but just wanting to understand, as I haven't been here too terribly long, but why hang around an enthusiast forum if you have so much disdain for the place?
 

ford91exploder

Resident Curmudgeon
The Mandarin language production of "The Lion King" at SDR's Disneytown will close this November. New Broadway musical (Beauty and the Beast?) coming in 2018.
http://tdrexplorer.com/lion-king-musical-close-shanghai-disneyland/

One wonders how much of this early closure, they were offering generous discounts on tickets at one point, can be attributed to Disneytown's location far away from the SDR metro station given the struggles of other vendors.

I also recall that Spirit noted the show's storyline did not resonate with the Chinese audience which probably is a bigger factor.

Disney is going to need to bring in Chinese stories because most of Disneys stories are based on western mythology and literature which does not Necessarily translate to Chinese sensibilities

Heck the Lion King is based on Hamlet, and the ideas expressed in many cases is subversive to the Chinese.
 

ford91exploder

Resident Curmudgeon
Well ... good for you? then ... that'll show em ... too bad you can't channel all of this into doing something productive in regards to making a change at how the company is run.

Right now the only thing that could alter Disney's course is a takeover attempt of Disney as Disney is being managed entirely to boost the stock price.

Disney is about halfway down Jim Collins ('Built to Last, Good to Great) Five Stages of Failure from the book 'How The Mighty Fail'

I put them somewhere about 2.5

http://samrainer.com/2009/07/the-five-stages-to-failure/

Part of my thought process is that Iger actually said that Disney has 5 years to implement streaming for his properties. Also the near endless reorganizations and musical VP's game



Iger had 5 years to do streaming back in 2012, He's about to overrun the end of the runway and he has no clue hes near it.

I'm really good at analyzing and predicting failure and based on that preventing future failure.
 

Kman101

Well-Known Member
So true, watching Disney these days is like watching a slow motion trainwreck.

I do like a lot of your posts and think you do have some good points so sorry if it seems like I come at you ... but sometimes the overexaggeration gets to me LOL

I do agree they're run badly. I do agree they run the parks like they're going to go out of business. I dislike how they get away with all the upcharges and constantly (and quietly) raising prices on things. But the guests just continue to let them. It's frustrating.
 

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