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A Spirited Perfect Ten
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Longhairbear
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I have to post here, an off topic, total rant, because I know the higher ups at Disney read WDW1971 threads.
Build more DVC resorts/units at Disneyland please? I can't book a villa for the life of me, because there are only 50 of them. They're booked solid for all the dates I want to spend at Disneyland from now until next Feb.
I hope part of that billion dollar enhancement to DLR includes new DVC villas. End of rant.
Build more DVC resorts/units at Disneyland please? I can't book a villa for the life of me, because there are only 50 of them. They're booked solid for all the dates I want to spend at Disneyland from now until next Feb.
I hope part of that billion dollar enhancement to DLR includes new DVC villas. End of rant.
Tigger1988
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Same thing happened to us. Kept us from doing the Star Wars marathon weekend too.
Just booked our trip for Feb, not our first choice but it seems every other time of the year is impossible to obtain.
ford91exploder
Resident Curmudgeon
or people smarted up and do not want to expend that much of money, for crowded parks?
That inflection point I keep talking about we may be seeing it NOW, I also live in a area dependent on tourism Lakes in summer and Skiing in Winter and traffic and occupancy numbers here are simply unbelievable. So if the swamp kingdom is having low attendance...
If there were no closings, there should have been. I was at MK last night and had the extremely surreal experience of watching the much anticipated fireworks from a parking lot behind Main St. With views only to be found behind your average strip mall, we had the choice of seeing the top of the castle over a construction wall, that, I am guessing was hastily thrown up to block the porta potties that still managed to peek over top if it, but with really no way to hear the audio or standing where you could hear the audio and see nothing but backlot. The audio seemed boom box quality at best. We were repeatedly assured we missed nothing by not being on Main St.
We knew the crowds would be insane but spent the day enjoying FP and some moderate standby lines. We would have been on Main St by 6:30 but a rainstorm with some lightning drove us in to Cosmic Rays. We're traveling with a family that has a little guy. By 7 the bridges to Main St were closed and we were being herded to the back lot with all the Magic of a traffic cop signaling cars around an accident.
I have been at MK when the park was closed because if capacity crowds and this was worse by far.
Goofyernmost
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OK, no one asked because no one knew they existed, or at least not at Disney. One of your favorite legacies, one Walt Disney, regularly did things that no one asked for, no one demanded and no one even thought about. Worked pretty well for him I believe. Give people what they didn't expect, how much money that was invested in that was totally irrelevant. Small things are a huge part of the memories. Any wahoo can spend huge amounts of cash to impress the masses, however, the little things are what make the difference and those little things do not have to be something that has been happening since the beginning of time.
BrerJon
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I think Custodial is one of the best jobs on property if you like guest interaction, the only problem is snooty guests looking down on you when you're paid the same as any other role and just as qualified.
When Disney operated at top quality, the custodials doing water pictures was one of those 'wow' moments that lifted the parks above their competitors - 'even their cleaners are talented entertainers!'. It's a small detail, but the sort of thing that people would tell the folks back home about their vacation.
Things like that should never be done at the expense of the job, but there's no reason they can't be factored in as part of the job, as long as there's a balance. Most locations have some kind of guest interaction downtime activity for Cast Members and those little details do add up. If it makes the CM's day more fun and helps them maintain a cheery disposition, then that's even better.
BrerJon
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Do the DVC sales pitches mention how difficult it might be to book things? I've often noted people seem to have problems, and yet - although I've never been to a pitch - from the basic information Disney gives to try to get you to go to one makes it sound like you can use your points any time, anywhere in the world, at any resort.
Not mentioning that in reality choices might be limited seems to be a big thing they really should alert people to in advance.
BrerJon
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I wonder what the crowds were like in Fantasyland? That's in my view the best place to watch fireworks from at any time, but I guess 4th July would have been very crowded but still more space. You could have gone round the back if you were in Cosmic Rays and watched them there.
I know what you mean about being herded into the bypass. I hate the new gestapo cop attitude of funneling everyone there regardless. Recently I was at Plaza Ice Cream just after Wishes, went up to Tomorrowland Terrace to get up to Space Mountain but the CMs were forcing everyone to go to the bypass, as if they wanted to leave the park... no exceptions... I had to then go down the bypass, back up Main Street, and round via Liberty Square in order to get to Tomorrowland - ridiculous!
Next Big Thing
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It's not a matter of the guests knowing, it's simply because on top of our main job, we basically have a second job, and that's answering questions all day long or pointing people in the right directions. You know, HELPING guests. You're being ignorant if you think Guests services isn't probably 40-50% part of what we do on a daily basis. Because we are the one's always walking around, we are the one's constantly getting stopped by guests and asked question. I personally have no problem with it and try to be as nice and helpful as possible while being quick and getting my job done in a timely manner. Most of my other CM's are the same way.
Every single piece of paper that refers to the job refers to it that way and in fact, it ISN'T just internal. Go up to any Custodial CM in the park and this is what you will see on their costume in the upper right hand corner:
Tigger1988
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I doubt the WDW pitches do, since finding a DVC room isn't nearly as difficult as DLR. I would be really interested to see if CA owners are totally made aware that only 50 rooms exist.
ford91exploder
Resident Curmudgeon
A MAGICal experience was it not... Confirms what I said in another thread long ago 'If you are in the WRONG section of the park you will be herded down the bypass no matter what"
Next Big Thing
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You're missing the point. I'm not talking about the middle of the day when there's endless things to do. I'm talking end of the night when everyone is doing their closing run. Once a closing run is done, the CM is virtually done. Hell, sometimes they get ASSIGNED to do water art if there's no work left and it's not time to leave yet.
Goodness you people are cynical here. It's a harmless exercise being criticized for what reason exactly? Out of all of the things, this takes away from work literally not at all... some days we don't even do it. What Custodial does is not easy. Try and be Casey's trasher for 4-5 hours straight without a break (the absolute hardest place to for the job in all of WDW as it has such little seating). Try doing a trash run after the fireworks. Try cleaning up after some indescribable things after you were assigned to bathrooms (I don't even know how some things happen...). Oh and those Code-V's... sometimes you get lucky and get none, but then some days you'll get 4-5 or more just in one day.
A lot of it isn't easy and it's not pretty. We aren't just goofing around, handing out stickers and playing with water all the time. I'll be honest and say that there is a bit of a miscommunication between management, but overall we have a pretty damn good system running and keep the park about as clean as we can for about 50,000 visitors destroying the place on average per daily basis
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You might want to do a little research before sticking your foot in your mouth. Avatar's total world-wide box office is $2.788 billion. Next closest is Titanic with $2.186 billion. Avengers:Age of Ultron has done $1.372 billion, while Jurassic World is only at $1.284 billion. Almost $100 million less. Jurassic will NEVER catch Avatar. Research is your friend. Here are the Top 10 Box Office movies of all time:
Rank/Title Worldwide Domestic Overseas
1 Avatar $2,788.0 $760.5 $2,027.5
2 Titanic $2,186.8 $658.7 $1,528.1
3 Marvel's The Avengers $1,518.6 $623.4 $895.2
4 Furious 7 $1,511.6 $351.0 $1,160.6
5 Avengers: Age of Ultron $1,372.4 $453.3 $919.1
6 HP Deathly Halls Part 2 $1,341.5 $381.0 $960.5
7 Jurassic World Uni. $1,284.5 $539.0 $745.5
8 Frozen $1,274.2 $400.7 $873.5
9 Iron Man 3 $1,215.4 $409.0 $806.4
10 Transf: D of the M $1,123.8 $352.4 $771.4
the real question is, can JW pass Marvel's The Avengers?
because its not sniffing the other two
Funmeister
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Case and point. Thanks!
Funmeister
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No I understand perfectly. I totally understand that custodial is the front line of defense. I can also say that I have seen some front line cast (custodial and non-custodial - attractions CM tying to get a tie line to the restaurant to make reservations?) try to do things that really are not part of their job. I'm going to stop this part of the debate right here because that is not even what we were discussing. We can save that for another day.
I disagree with your last statement. WIth that logic if you work extra extra hard then why not call yourself VP of Magic Kingdom Services? Custodial cast members are not Guest Services. Yes. They do provide service to the guests but not the kind that are associated with the title. Walk in any resort, hotel or theme park (Disney or non-DIsney) and I guarantee you that employees who work in Guest Services/Guest Relations are not in custodial or janitorial positions. I am not talking away the fact that custodial Cast Members are the hardest working CM's in the parks. But it seems by some of the comments that is where some (not necessarily you) want to take the conversation. We can also agree to disagree.
Funmeister
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You are more than welcome!
Tigger1988
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Dude, it's already been established last night that you didn't realize I was mocking you with that comment. Went right over your head.
Don't try and reply a second time to be snarky.
Funmeister
Well-Known Member
It's not a matter of the guests knowing, it's simply because on top of our main job, we basically have a second job, and that's answering questions all day long or pointing people in the right directions. You know, HELPING guests. You're being ignorant if you think Guests services isn't probably 40-50% part of what we do on a daily basis. Because we are the one's always walking around, we are the one's constantly getting stopped by guests and asked question. I personally have no problem with it and try to be as nice and helpful as possible while being quick and getting my job done in a timely manner. Most of my other CM's are the same way.
Every single piece of paper that refers to the job refers to it that way and in fact, it ISN'T just internal. Go up to any Custodial CM in the park and this is what you will see on their costume in the upper right hand corner:
I believe you said it was internal in a previous post?