A Spirited Perfect Ten

ford91exploder

Resident Curmudgeon
True. That is the total lure of Epcot now for so many, Drunkfest in the Spring and now Drunkfest most of the fall even with the other parks moving into Holiday mode.

This is why I chuckled when so many were up in arms about liquor being sold at BOG at the MK. Disney will now do whatever brings revenue or cuts overall operation costs.

A Frozen Attraction in the middle of the World Showcase is the same revenue builder. Can't wait to see what happens when all these little princesses are parading around in their heels and gowns made up at Bippity Boppity in the middle of fall drunk fest when Frozen launches. Drunkfest is not the best place for all these Little Princesses, it is now the F&W fest of yesteryear.

Yes F&W now resides in Yesterland, It's now Spring and Fall Drunkfest. I used to love Flower and Garden when they actually had booths which demonstrated landscaping tools and techniques, Now to be replaced with grog shops.
 

Disneyhead'71

Well-Known Member
So I suppose I shouldn't mention that one time, when my parents and I were were walking through Toon Lagoon at IOA, a few days after the grand opening of Hogsmeade, and we ran into Tony, Kevin Kidney, Jody Daily and some other person and chatted about what they thought of it. And then when my Dad asked if they saw the projections in the Three Broomsticks, and they all went "NO!" and then had to wander back off in the direction of the land.



While I would much rather have lived through the original years of Disneyland or WDW and have seen those changes, I realized after posting that I am in a rather unique position of being one of the few who is still around that got to experience the evolution of the Disney Fandom. Starting in 1996, I can remember when the DIG and Al was mostly a poster on ADD and a small website on AOL. When Deb's site was WDWIG. Bartender Sam and the Save Toad movement. I am the oldest, still active poster on LaughingPlace.com (I used to say non-staff, but since Dave, Doobie and Rebekah don't post anymore I feel like I can drop the non-staff...although I do mostly hit and run posting on all sites, so active is a relative term). I started posting on the Rumors & News board on the DIS not that long after Another Voice showed up (I saw someone bring up his Twitter posts recently, met him twice in person), lived through the various crashes and board upgrades while Pete was growing his business by leaps and bounds A bunch of us Rumors & News folks all ran off from the DIS and had our own little world for several years. We all used to make fun of this site for the too much Pixie Dusting. But being off in our world, most of the celebrity blogging and tweeting missed us by.

I ended up coming here, because a family medical crisis in 2014, meant I was in Orlando a lot more, and I had to figure out all the MyMagic nonsense. I went to the DIS, and was completely astonished by what I was reading in terms of customer service, technological failures, etc. I needed some place that would delve beyond the "vacation implications" and I knew this was where the Spirit had run off to after basically leaving LaughingPlace.

Everyone has a role they play within the fandom, and I have always fessed us to mine being the Librarian. But I kind of wish I had been a psychologist or sociologist, because watching all of this has been an interesting study and would make a fabulous real world case study. Could have actually done something useful with it, vs being able to come up with questions for Bob Iger that can generate quite a few likes.
Yeah, Laughingplace had a good run. Jonvn and I used to go round and round about DCA, the last bout he was telling me the $1.2 Billion redo was because it was so successful they needed to expand.
 

Mike S

Well-Known Member
DisneyToons Studios and direct to video features are dead... for now...
http://animationguildblog.blogspot.com/2015/01/at-disneytoon-studios.html?m=1
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FigmentJedi

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The fairy movies were actually pretty good. Problem was that whole "Going from DTVquels to spinoffs" thing never really went anywhere seeing as they spent all their efforts on just two franchises. And frankly with so many people not shutting up about wanting sequels to Ralph or Frozen or whatever, might as well let somebody play with those settings with sturdy oversight on the level of that "Oh my god they actually pay someone to keep track of Cars continuity" guy or even Lucasfilm's own Story Group while feature animation focuses on new stuff.
 

Goofywilliam

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We ate on one of the outdoor balconies at Cowfish -- great view and wonderful Orlando-in-January weather. The inside décor was okay, but there wasn't much atmosphere on the balcony.

I had the bison burger with avocado, cheese, and chipotle mayo. It was good, but it wasn't great like the bison burger at Ted's Montana Grill. The Cowfish fries were sorta awful. My wife's grilled veggies were a much better option.

Service was ok, if a little indifferent. The waiter's walkthrough of the menu was delivered at lightning speed. I'm sure he gets tired of repeating it, but his demeanor didn't to anything to endear me to the place.

In short, we'll probably will try Antojitos next time we eat in CityWalk.
I feel like thats more because of the location of the restaurant and the amount/type of business it gets. I have a Cowfish literally right down the road form me here in Raleigh and it has a wonderful local atmosphere and it is a lot of fun to dine there. I do however feel its a little pricy for what it is (although it is located in a more upper class area of Raleigh).
 

ford91exploder

Resident Curmudgeon
They do. Thats where all the cooking demos, wine tastings, etc., things that are included with your admission occur.

Its not Gutted per se. Its just not going to be used as anything other than a festival center. They make more money/square foot that way.

That's correct but they are so few and far between now, Just call it what it is the EPCOT pub crawl.
 

71jason

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We ate on one of the outdoor balconies at Cowfish -- great view and wonderful Orlando-in-January weather. The inside décor was okay, but there wasn't much atmosphere on the balcony.

Really? I thought the inside decor looked like it came straight from Ikea. The focus of the bar (the bar, where you're supposed to be 21 to sit) is ca. 2002 CGI fish you can add glasses and hats to. The interior has zero style or sense of "place-making."

I thought my burger was very good, but not in the conversation for best in Orlando. Agreed the fries are bad, Steak & Shake bad. I had decent service at the bar, but long waits seem to be the main complaint in the Twitterverse (sending Universal lifestylers into a defensive mode that more resembles fans of Holy Land Experience than even WDW).

In short, we'll probably will try Antojitos next time we eat in CityWalk.

Great call. Vivo good, too--just a solid Italian place.
 

JediMasterMatt

Well-Known Member
All this renewed talk about what could have been if Disney had the won JK Rowling's heart and had the rights to the Harry Potter franchise got me back to thinking about my thoughts at the time of the Universal announcement being worried that it was really going to be the loss of the Kuka Robocoaster that was really going to hurt Disney.

How foolish I was...

You actually have to build new attractions for the loss of the Kuka tech to be felt.

Unfortunately, the World (WDW) wouldn't have been much different with Potter or without I'm afraid as long as the current management methodology is in place. I would argue that if Disney got Potter and it was a success, it would've further emboldened the stagnation process in Orlando. Theme park fans are better off the way things played out.
 

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