A Spirited Perfect Ten

Mike S

Mike S

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RSG1025 said:
OLC just recently announced new details of their expansion plans, with some very exciting concept art too! Basically everything @WDW1974 said was coming is shown here.

English announcement here:

http://www.olc.co.jp/en/news/olcgroup/20150428_04e.pdf

A few initial observations...

If that is not Be Our Guest, what could be inside Beast's Castle? The castle looks much bigger than the one in MK's NFL.

Is that possibly a maze like the one at DLP for the Alice section? I see guests lining up to enter the building with the White Rabbit. Not sure if that is a separate attraction.

Lastly, this quote has me quite excited.

"The overall theme for the new themed port at Tokyo DisneySea Park will be Scandinavia with a portion of the area being themed specifically to the world of the Disney film Frozen."

It's nice to know that it will not be completely Frozen-dominated and will instead take an approach similar to Arabian Coast (where Aladdin is not the only inspiration). It looks like the Arendelle castle is possibly hosting a restaurant or M&G, while the larger mountain structure with ice castle in the background is for the huge E-ticket.

Very excited to see this develop over the next few years!
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the.dreamfinder said:
Hey kids, BIG NEWS FROM TOKYO!!!
http://www.olc.co.jp/en/news/olcgroup/20150428_04e.pdf
Props to @WDWFigment for pointing this out
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the.dreamfinder said:
Scandinavian port concept art
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That's how you do it. It looks beautiful :)
 
Nemo14

Nemo14

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WDW1974

WDW1974

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Original Poster
RSG1025 said:
OLC just recently announced new details of their expansion plans, with some very exciting concept art too! Basically everything @WDW1974 said was coming is shown here.

English announcement here:

http://www.olc.co.jp/en/news/olcgroup/20150428_04e.pdf

A few initial observations...

If that is not Be Our Guest, what could be inside Beast's Castle? The castle looks much bigger than the one in MK's NFL.

Is that possibly a maze like the one at DLP for the Alice section? I see guests lining up to enter the building with the White Rabbit. Not sure if that is a separate attraction.

Lastly, this quote has me quite excited.

"The overall theme for the new themed port at Tokyo DisneySea Park will be Scandinavia with a portion of the area being themed specifically to the world of the Disney film Frozen."

It's nice to know that it will not be completely Frozen-dominated and will instead take an approach similar to Arabian Coast (where Aladdin is not the only inspiration). It looks like the Arendelle castle is possibly hosting a restaurant or M&G, while the larger mountain structure with ice castle in the background is for the huge E-ticket.

Very excited to see this develop over the next few years!
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Just dropping in because if I don't jump on taking credit for something I said was happening (or, as in this case, if it's for a resort that sadly 99% of fans won't ever visit) many months ago it's like the tree falling in the forest deal. No, I don't expect @wdwmagic to start listing my breaking news on his front page (although he is free to take credit for the site if he desires as it's the least I can do!) so I guess being a Spirit with some ego I need to point it out. If we added my stuff to @Lee's and @marni1971's I suspect we'd need a site of our own.

Anyway, not surprised by the timing at all. I was pleasantly surprised that so much of this port will be based on Scandinavia versus a toon ice kingdom. A friend who sent a note along said ''There will be far more EPCOT in here, than what you'll have in O-Town.'' It looks amazing.

I think the Fantasyland redo will be equally amazing. Right now, the land is an odd, but wonderful, mash-up of 1983 and late 90s and it isn't cohesive beyond quality. I wish they weren't 'giving up on Tomorrowland' just as Disney is about to release what looks like a great film on said subject, but it's obvious that WDI doesn't have any real futurists that can come up with marketable concepts. Look at what we have in the swamps. How is Buzz Lightyear, Stitch, Mike W., a peoplemover, and a 1975 rickety coaster anything but a mess?

As to Be Our Guest, I was told initially it wouldn't be going in there as Small World will have a dining location added as well. But I'm not sure. You could certainly do a B&B attraction in that facility ...anything from the meet-and-greet and jump around with paper masks that WDW has to the attraction full of AAs originally planned for DLP.

And, yes, an Alice maze is supposed to be one of the new attractions (note the plural).

Now, anyone want to talk about what WDW announces at it's blogging whores meet-and greet-and-gorge? How about whether Iger is (or isn't, I sure hope) going to screw fanbois at D23 by again putting off a Star Wars announcement for months or years more?

The best Disney parks in the world are sadly not owned nor run by TWDC. Save your money and go ... you can leave the swamp behind, you really don't need a Trader's Sam's tiki mug (and if you do, I'm sure some Lifestyler will sell you one at a 'small' profit), and there isn't anything new there. @WDWFigment can give you advice as well on how to save money on your Japan travels. Oh yeah, that's a bonus too. When you decide you are done with TDR, you get to explore an amazing world class city ... as opposed to O-Town, which is ... which is ...
 
culturenthrills

culturenthrills

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Tony Perkis said:
Sorry, but no. The cartoon series doesn't fix terrible dialogue, bad acting, dated CGI overload, and midichlorians.

The prequels aren't just bad by SW standards; they're bad by any standard.

Bad directing, bad writing, bad storytelling....and Lucas still found a way to bleed those films' awfulness into the original trilogy.

This isn't a generational divide between young and old regarding the prequels. They are legitimately bad films.
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I think one of the best examples is the deleted scenes of Anakin and Padme from AOTC. Those scenes did a better job of showing their blossoming love and chemistry than the ones that made it into the movie. It is like Lucas didn't even know how to pick the right scenes to use in the film. Ewan McGregor is about the only good thing about the prequels. How he was able to get an awful performance out of Natalie Portman when she has been great in so many films is beyond me.
 
asianway

asianway

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Didja see DL did another one of their AP events with tons of live music & a Golden Horseshoe show? Guess it is coming back for the 60th.

I'll remind everyone that WDW hasn't done one for 4 years. And that was to ride Everest after hours, meet a couple foam heads, and crash the website requiring a registration "do over"
 
burgess

burgess

Member
WDW1974 said:
The best Disney parks in the world are sadly not owned nor run by TWDC. Save your money and go ... you can leave the swamp behind, you really don't need a Trader's Sam's tiki mug (and if you do, I'm sure some Lifestyler will sell you one at a 'small' profit), and there isn't anything new there. @WDWFigment can give you advice as well on how to save money on your Japan travels. Oh yeah, that's a bonus too. When you decide you are done with TDR, you get to explore an amazing world class city ... as opposed to O-Town, which is ... which is ...
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Went to Tokyo (including Disney) for the first time last year, and I plan to go again next year. It's a great time to make the trip, as the conversion rate makes their already reasonable prices a steal. If anyone on here is going to make the journey for the first time, make sure to allow for at least as much time in Tokyo and the rest of the country as you do for the Disney parks. The city of Tokyo is cleaner than the Magic Kingdom these days, and the service level is better too.
 
ford91exploder

ford91exploder

Resident Curmudgeon
bhg469 said:
There are plenty of people that are suckers too. Buying into it 10 years ago may have been a better idea, if you're buying now you have too much disposable income.
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I'd have to agree with the sentiments here with a slight edit, Breakeven at BLT was 6-10 years at the introductory price - now we are at 12-20 years at Poly/GF as I recall from @ParentsOf4 's DVC last breakeven analysis.

I think you are PAYING too much for greatly reduced value and a much longer time horizon in the direct from disney scenario
 
ford91exploder

ford91exploder

Resident Curmudgeon
hakunamatata said:
At what dollar amount or % level does someone achieve "too much" disposable income? Accordingly, what gives anyone the right to pass that type of judgement?
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I think it was more on the badly phrased, BLT had a breakeven of about 6-10 years for a 200 point purchase when it was for sale initially, now at the 'new' resorts the same point purchase is up to 20 years for breakeven
 
WDW1974

WDW1974

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Just got a note from a friend and she sums up the difference in management between WDW and TDR quite well:

''So, Tokyo expands, when they have almost no land left, to do justice to both TDS and Frozen, while WDW, with unlimited land, further destroys EPCOT to short Frozen and its fans as well.''

All I could respond with is, ''You got it!''
 

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