A Spirited Perfect Ten

CinematicFusion

CinematicFusion

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This isn't a star wars spoiler, just speculation (I don't know anything about the film)... but I'll hide the information anyway.
Does this picture show a visual symmetry of the entire Star Wars Saga? Was this shot in the trailer visually telling us who Rey is?
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It's the same shot used from the other trilogies. Does it mean anything?
Is Rey a Skywalker? Or is this visually telling us she is the one who will be taking the hero's journey?
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FigmentJedi

FigmentJedi

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englanddg said:
Ok, edited the heck out of that, to get my terms straight. As I said, I'm a Star Wars fan...but not that hard core. I do know we are now living in the G-Canon world with a blend of the T-Canon (but not all) being doctrine.
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Technically there isn't any canon-tiers anymore going forward. It's all one thing being overseen by Lucasfilm Story Group with the movies and the Clone Wars show being all that's fully retained from the past. And pretty much everything's been good so far. Rebels is great and its nice to see the Marvel books not shy away from touching on Prequel stuff in the OT era.
 
aladdin2007

aladdin2007

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marni1971 said:
Reminds me of riding Gran Fiesta with all the work lights on. I told the entire cast at unload and they weren't aware...
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Agree, this has become not a daily thing I would say but far too often. What does seem to be permanent are the atrocious flood lights in the beginning section as you float past san angel inn, horrible. As well as the final scene. They have lost all artistic merit and show quality. Disney rides arent allowed to be in the dark any longer it seems like or at least have the correct "show" lighting, except for the people mover which is in pitch darkness but thats a whole different discussion there lol. How they get away with that and not have issues is beyond me.
 
Rodan75

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WDW1974 said:
I agree with much of what you are saying, Cap. But in the end, the most important thing is ownership. Ask Ike how happy he is being Disney's (bad word for female dog self-censored so as to not upset anyone).

The Avengers may be Marvel's Avengers. But Marvel is Disney's Marvel.

Marvel as a unique BRAND disappeared in 2009 when the ink dried on the contract. Marvel is a subsidiary of TWDC today. They are under/beholden/controlled by Disney. So, yes, they absolutely are a part of Disney's content library. And Disney isn't one to separate the BRANDS. I think this is largely a semantics deal, like many online discussions.
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I agree with your thought process that a lot of the argument is semantics. However, Disney seems to be giving their new 'Brand Families' plenty of leash to do their own thing without going through a 'Conservative values of Walt Disney' review.

But your on-going broader point is very valid. Marvel, Lucasfilm, Pixar, ESPN are all sub-brands within the New Disney Empire. The core Disney name has lost some of the family charm while trying to extend that family friendly label to the other brands. And I think what you see and complain about outside of the parks with TWDC is around this weird awkward phase they seem to be in, where they are marketing Daredevil, buying into gambling sites while also selling Mickey as Captain America. You can't do that all with the Disney name and not lose the 'old Disney Feeling'.

I do wonder, what would have been their path forward in this modern business environment if they weren't doing what they are doing now. While there is plenty to complain about now, I'm not sure it would have been better going down a more 'Disney' Appropriate path.
 
ford91exploder

ford91exploder

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Rodan75 said:
I agree with your thought process that a lot of the argument is semantics. However, Disney seems to be giving their new 'Brand Families' plenty of leash to do their own thing without going through a 'Conservative values of Walt Disney' review.

But your on-going broader point is very valid. Marvel, Lucasfilm, Pixar, ESPN are all sub-brands within the New Disney Empire. The core Disney name has lost some of the family charm while trying to extend that family friendly label to the other brands. And I think what you see and complain about outside of the parks with TWDC is around this weird awkward phase they seem to be in, where they are marketing Daredevil, buying into gambling sites while also selling Mickey as Captain America. You can't do that all with the Disney name and not lose the 'old Disney Feeling'.

I do wonder, what would have been their path forward in this modern business environment if they weren't doing what they are doing now. While there is plenty to complain about now, I'm not sure it would have been better going down a more 'Disney' Appropriate path.
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Think Touchstone Pictures a home for Disney's more adult oriented fare back in MDE's day, Perfactly reasonable it was designed as a branding firewall between the 'Family' oriented fare that was Disney and the more adult content, This is still a viable model Disney Corporate still owns the property and profits from it but you do not get the bidirectional brand dilution seen today.

Iger could have done this but today's IgerCo is about branding mashups now you get to see Goofy in a Darth Vader suit...
 
PhotoDave219

PhotoDave219

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ford91exploder said:
Think Touchstone Pictures a home for Disney's more adult oriented fare back in MDE's day, Perfactly reasonable it was designed as a branding firewall between the 'Family' oriented fare that was Disney and the more adult content, This is still a viable model Disney Corporate still owns the property and profits from it but you do not get the bidirectional brand dilution seen today.

Iger could have done this but today's IgerCo is about branding mashups now you get to see Goofy in a Darth Vader suit...
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We had goofy in a Vader suit under MDE.
 
the.dreamfinder

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Disney gets into a spat with a group of German theater owners. Something like this almost happened two years ago with AMC refusing to screen Iron Man Three. Disney and AMC were able to come to a settlement before its release, but who knows what will happen here. I suspect if this gets dragged out, it could take "Tomorrowland" out of a good number of German theaters and, in the worst case scenario, "Inside Out" as well.
http://www.hollywoodreporter.com/news/german-theaters-threaten-extend-disney-791584
 
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BernardandBianca

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WDW1974 said:
I hear folks (here and elsewhere) talking about how show quality and upkeep are getting better at WDW and I'm just not at all sure they can even distinguish what is wrong at this point. I guess I should start charging for quality control walks and showing them everything they seem to be missing (and, no, these are not things you have to look for ... they are right there in front of you!)
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You redo pricey hotel rooms at the BC and you don't sand down doors and wooden baseboards, you just throw another coat of paint over the 11 below? And then charge $500 a night for the room.
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Putting these two together, because they fit the item I wanted to bring up, which actually relates to WDW and not to movie universes. Did anyone else notice that the Yacht Club resort has removed the cloth hand towels from the bathrooms, and replaced them with paper towels? Noticed this yesterday, and was moved enough to complain to management. The response: blank, the person in question didn't know that this had been done. Her comment (which I found to be priceless) was: Yacht Club is a deluxe resort, and we should have the cloth towels. Of course, other than the Contemporary and possible the Beach Club, all of the other deluxes use paper towels (of did last time I was there.)
 
PhotoDave219

PhotoDave219

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BernardandBianca said:
Putting these two together, because they fit the item I wanted to bring up, which actually relates to WDW and not to movie universes. Did anyone else notice that the Yacht Club resort has removed the cloth hand towels from the bathrooms, and replaced them with paper towels? Noticed this yesterday, and was moved enough to complain to management. The response: blank, the person in question didn't know that this had been done. Her comment (which I found to be priceless) was: Yacht Club is a deluxe resort, and we should have the cloth towels. Of course, other than the Contemporary and possible the Beach Club, all of the other deluxes use paper towels (of did last time I was there.)
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There were cloth towels in the bathroom by beaches & cream.
 
truecoat

truecoat

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the.dreamfinder said:
Disney gets into a spat with a group of German theater owners. Something like this almost happened two years ago with AMC refusing to screen Iron Man Three. Disney and AMC were able to come to a settlement before its release, but who know what will happen here. I suspect if this gets dragged out, it could take "Tomorrowland" out of a good number of German theaters and, in the worst case scenario, "Inside Out" as well.
http://www.hollywoodreporter.com/news/german-theaters-threaten-extend-disney-791584
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53%? It's like 90% in the states for the first 2 weeks. Nothing to complain about. Then again, cinemas in Germany probably provide their staff with a livable wage.
 
hopemax

hopemax

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BernardandBianca said:
Putting these two together, because they fit the item I wanted to bring up, which actually relates to WDW and not to movie universes. Did anyone else notice that the Yacht Club resort has removed the cloth hand towels from the bathrooms, and replaced them with paper towels? Noticed this yesterday, and was moved enough to complain to management. The response: blank, the person in question didn't know that this had been done. Her comment (which I found to be priceless) was: Yacht Club is a deluxe resort, and we should have the cloth towels. Of course, other than the Contemporary and possible the Beach Club, all of the other deluxes use paper towels (of did last time I was there.)
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Interesting, because when we at at Beaches & Cream last week I stopped in the bathroom between Cape May and Ariel's. when I came out I commented that they still had the cloth towels and was kind of surprised they hadn't cut the yet.
 
71jason

71jason

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ItlngrlBella said:
I haven't been to Universal but my sister was there for the first time yesterday and she was RAVING about it. Do they have similar problems (long lines/high prices).

Just wondering why WDW has not solved that issue? Is it because attendance and revenues are up? Eventually people won't return of they feel the WDW experience is cheapened and chipped away little by little as prices continue to rise.
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Lines are a result of two issues--FastPass (Universal's line skipping system is used by a much smaller percentage of guests) and a failure to increase ride capacity (i.e. build enough new rides rather than low-capacity meet & greets) over the last two decades. I'm sure Disney thinks solving the first issue would be a P.R. nightmare*; solving the second issue is apparently a boardroom nightmare.

* For the record, I disagree. When Universal, which is a lot more dependent on locals, did away with their FastPass rip-off, complaints seemed to dissipate within a month. Mostly because lines are rarely that bad.
 

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