mahnamahna101
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Inside Out looks better than anything Disney will put out for the rest of the decade other than Toy Story 3.
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spacemt354
Chili's
Aside from the films coming out this year that we have footage, or anticipated sequels like Civil War, Star Wars, etc, I don't see how we can judge new films as old 'guff when we don't even know what they are about yet.
Phil12
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Quinnmac000
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I think Disney will make tons of money but I have a strong feeling none of them are going to be classics especially the Marvel films. I think that's the main problem with Disney nowadays from the films even to the parks. The Nostalgia of the past isn't going to be the same nowadays for the younger generations. Yes they have their Frozen but Cars 2 isn't going to stand the test of time, Iron Man and most of these marvels films will be as forgotten as much as the 1990's Flash TV show. You can argue oh they have Star Wars but who is to say the future generations will even enjoy Star Wars.
Disney needs to put a line up of present day classic films with huge social impact from quotes etc. John Hughes understood that hints why even nowadays his films getting parodied in present day films and modeled after. Steven Spielberg has understood that but presently it seems the one company who originally had the strongest impact does not.
Disney needs to put a line up of present day classic films with huge social impact from quotes etc. John Hughes understood that hints why even nowadays his films getting parodied in present day films and modeled after. Steven Spielberg has understood that but presently it seems the one company who originally had the strongest impact does not.
Tigger1988
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Someone didn't see the amount of children at Celebration last weekend.
Between Rebels and Clone Wars alone they've pretty much ensured new generations will be interested in Star Wars. That doesn't even include the new trilogy and spin off films.
spacemt354
Chili's
Yeah I disagree with this.
Nostalgia only exists with time. Cars 2 is hardly a good example of films that stand the test of time. And using one film to prove an entire studio has lost it's way is really misleading. Toy Story, Finding Nemo, etc have all stood the test of time.
The Marvel films will be forgotten and become 90s Flash? Where do you get this from? Aesthetically the films are well put together, and The Avengers will hold a spot in generations to come. Also, Marvel has no plans on stopping. They have films planned till 2028, so when the new generation picks it up, it will be clear that those original films got them to where they are today. While some of the individual films (Iron Man 2) may fade into the background, Marvel won't. You are entitled to your opinion, but in 30 years when people still love Marvel films and hold nostalgia for The Avengers and others, your opinion will be wrong.
As mentioned earlier, Star Wars has already become popular with the younger crowd with Rebels on Disney XD. Star Wars creates action figures, kids books, merchandise, etc. The concept of Star Wars has stood the test of time and I don't see any reason to suspect the new generation will not gravitate to it.
andysol
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Yup. Even that pile of dung the Phantom menace. What's most small kids favorite Star Wars film?
My daughter likes Jar Jar. Likes him.
The mother flippin phantom menace. Kill me
Side note- if an intervention doesn't happen soon- I'll be posting a sweet little 5 year old on eBay.
My daughter likes Jar Jar. Likes him.
The mother flippin phantom menace. Kill me
Side note- if an intervention doesn't happen soon- I'll be posting a sweet little 5 year old on eBay.
Disneyhead'71
Well-Known Member
Disney, and pretty much all the studios have traded depth and resonance for complexity and slomosplosions. Complexity isn't depth and slomosplosions are AWESOME!!!! yet forgettable.
Even when Disney goes for emotion these days, which only happens with live action sports pseudohistorical docudramas, it feels like beyond pandering.
They got close with Saving Mr. Banks.
Even when Disney goes for emotion these days, which only happens with live action sports pseudohistorical docudramas, it feels like beyond pandering.
They got close with Saving Mr. Banks.
Phil12
Well-Known Member
It won't be too long before Disney comes out with "Return of the Jar Jar".Yup. Even that pile of dung the Phantom menace. What's most small kids favorite Star Wars film?
My daughter likes Jar Jar. Likes him.
The mother flippin phantom menace. Kill me
Side note- if an intervention doesn't happen soon- I'll be posting a sweet little 5 year old on eBay.
spacemt354
Chili's
I don't need to make this into "movies nowadays suck"- because if that's your argument- I agree. Kramer vs Kramer wouldn't even make its money back now with the common movie-goer.
But look on the bright side- we are in the golden age of television and can get deeper story lines than any two hour flick can give us.
The most popular blockbuster films tend to be the ones with the best special effects (Transformers 4 made over 1 Billion and so has Furious 7...I don't need to say any more)
You hit the nail on the head with TV shows. You want depth? You want emotion? Stop complaining about the films and turn on the TV (or Netflix). Heck even the new Daredevil show was fantastic, dramatic, and emotional.
Cesar R M
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and Vin Diesel just confirmed Furious 8 :/
Disneyhead'71
Well-Known Member
I was just about to say that Daredevil and even Gothom are deeper than the movies these days. And every once in a something like Selma or Imitation Game sneaks in. Both excellent films btw.You seen the new Cinderella? That was as simple as it gets and very well done.
I liked Mr Banks quite a bit too.
All studios are going to have their wiffs and their explosions. Thor movies, and even all the iron mans- about a deep as a play pool. But the last captain America was an great film- even excluding the superhero aspect. It was beyond explosions and a popcorn flick.
Avengers- popcorn. But that's it's purpose.
Look- everything can't be gone with the wind and Casablanca. They need the bills to be paid.
Fast and the Furious 7 has done what- 6-700 mil? Are you freakin kidding?
I don't need to make this into "movies nowadays suck"- because if that's your argument- I agree. Kramer vs Kramer wouldn't even make its money back now with the common movie-goer.
The Disney love actions rarely sustain the end of time- rarely have they. But their animated ones will still resonate. I think movies like princess and the frog, toy story, nemo, tangled- definitely the monster that is frozen can appear 30 years from now and still be enjoyable.
But look on the bright side- we are in the golden age of television and can get deeper story lines than any two hour flick can give us.
Cesar R M
Well-Known Member
Thats hardly Disneys's fault, blame Mr. Explosion himself (aka Michael Bay).
he invented the "zero brains, chicks and explosions only" action movies.
Spirited WDW Musings Roundup:
Is the new line in the fan community going to be that Walt hated trees and enjoyed vast swaths of empty hot pavement? I ask this because the biggest thing that stands out from a my quickee visit was how trees are being mowed down all over ... from the MK to the area behind it to the DD area, which apparently will soon have as many lanes in front of it as the 405 freeway, trees and greenspace are being removed.
We know what Walt thought about trees and their import, so I am waiting for some 'fan' here to tell me how he'd approve of how WDW is being built out.
Every time I see the colony of deer chowing down on the grass across from the FW entrance, I just wonder where are they living now since Disney keeps removing more of their habitat.
And just wait ... y'all do know that a revamped entrance/auto plaza/MK parking lot are all coming because what worked for 40-plus years is simply no good anymore.
The highlight of my visit to the Disney parks was something I can practically guarantee that few folks here would care about: namely spending 30 minutes at DAK watching both the new baby gorillas (born a few weeks apart about seven months ago) play and frolic while their respective moms kept a close watch (especially when one of their 5-year-old sisters wanted to play too!) That was priceless. That was MAGICal. No, riding Space Mountain or PPF or the SDMT ad nauseum just doesn't do it for me.
Second biggest highlight wasn't even in the parks, it was hanging out with the horses at FW. BTW, gotta love the fact the current brochure for Circle D (and all the trail rides, wagon rides etc.) that looks like it was printed in 2013 prominently features a shot of one of the streetcars with the Hub (the real one) in it that looks to date back to the early 1980s. Do they even ever run Main Street vehicles at WDW? I ask this because I haven't actually witnessed this since 2009.
Yes, I saw Disney announced its film slate for the next three years. All I see is green. Oh, and safe.
I feel very sorry for anyone staying below the fourth floor at the BC right now. I can't imagine paying say $500 (I have no clue what rooms are going for there right now, but that sounds about right) a night to stay in the old depressing rooms below while the folks above have new rooms for the same rates or less.
Spice Road Table has gone to the land of $20-plus entrees versus tapas, but they still were 40% empty with waterfront tables at 8:20 on a Friday night.
Did I 'steal' 'shrooms from Pecos Bill's one night? ...
Can I trade a Marvel pin that I buy at UNI/IOA for another Disney pin at say ... EPCOT?
Yes, I don't like the look of the fences around the pools, especially WL. Just looks bad.
Ssshh, don't tell anyone, but the lobby bar at BC still serves bar snacks (if you say it too loud, Georgie K will make sure they get taken away ... Look, how can Disney make money when the Cape May Cafe buffet is only $37.99 per person?)
I truly wonder how Disney will get people to spend any measurable time in the soon to be reBRANDED park next year when all the walls go up. There's already nothing much to do.
I won't talk about show quality across the board because you either know how bad it is and agree, you know how bad it is but don't really care or you simply don't pay attention.
Thanks to whomever made the MAGIC happen at the WL. It was a lovely night of food, drink and company!
No, before you ask, I didn't go to UNI (beyond the Royal Pacific and City Walk) on this visit, even though a friend offered comps. Nothing against the place as I largely love what they are doing, but I have spent so much time there over the past 18-36 months that I would like it to remain special and not simply become me riding Pirates at the MK yet again because that's what you do. I am fatigued by the entire O-Town theme park experience and am looking forward to experiencing parks in China, California and, perhaps, Germany as the year moves on.
To the CM driving her company pickup up the walkway from YC over to BW to park it under the awning for Atlantic Dance, yes, I was giving you dirty looks and, yes, I don't think that was either safe or good show. But I am sure you had a very important reason for doing so.
No, not really impressed with what I am seeing from Disney Springs, thus far. Walk through the place with someone with an eye for design and you see so many glaring missteps that no Lifestyler will ever notice.
Greatly looking forward to attending DL's 60th Diamond Celebration this summer (and fall and ...)
Not greatly looking forward to every O-Town Lifestyler blogging and tweeting endless crap from there in about a month.
I admit that these aren't the most scintillating musings I've ever put up, but the visit was low key and meant for spending time outside in nice weather (the latter of which didn't happen at all, except for Monday night after it poured all day). There just isn't a whole lot to talk about ... might have to go back to China talk and/or talk about the definitive NGE piece that Fast Company put out and folks around these parts seem to largely wish to take as gospel.
Or, perhaps, it's time for something entirely different ... we shall see.
Is the new line in the fan community going to be that Walt hated trees and enjoyed vast swaths of empty hot pavement? I ask this because the biggest thing that stands out from a my quickee visit was how trees are being mowed down all over ... from the MK to the area behind it to the DD area, which apparently will soon have as many lanes in front of it as the 405 freeway, trees and greenspace are being removed.
We know what Walt thought about trees and their import, so I am waiting for some 'fan' here to tell me how he'd approve of how WDW is being built out.
Every time I see the colony of deer chowing down on the grass across from the FW entrance, I just wonder where are they living now since Disney keeps removing more of their habitat.
And just wait ... y'all do know that a revamped entrance/auto plaza/MK parking lot are all coming because what worked for 40-plus years is simply no good anymore.
The highlight of my visit to the Disney parks was something I can practically guarantee that few folks here would care about: namely spending 30 minutes at DAK watching both the new baby gorillas (born a few weeks apart about seven months ago) play and frolic while their respective moms kept a close watch (especially when one of their 5-year-old sisters wanted to play too!) That was priceless. That was MAGICal. No, riding Space Mountain or PPF or the SDMT ad nauseum just doesn't do it for me.
Second biggest highlight wasn't even in the parks, it was hanging out with the horses at FW. BTW, gotta love the fact the current brochure for Circle D (and all the trail rides, wagon rides etc.) that looks like it was printed in 2013 prominently features a shot of one of the streetcars with the Hub (the real one) in it that looks to date back to the early 1980s. Do they even ever run Main Street vehicles at WDW? I ask this because I haven't actually witnessed this since 2009.
Yes, I saw Disney announced its film slate for the next three years. All I see is green. Oh, and safe.
I feel very sorry for anyone staying below the fourth floor at the BC right now. I can't imagine paying say $500 (I have no clue what rooms are going for there right now, but that sounds about right) a night to stay in the old depressing rooms below while the folks above have new rooms for the same rates or less.
Spice Road Table has gone to the land of $20-plus entrees versus tapas, but they still were 40% empty with waterfront tables at 8:20 on a Friday night.
Did I 'steal' 'shrooms from Pecos Bill's one night? ...
Can I trade a Marvel pin that I buy at UNI/IOA for another Disney pin at say ... EPCOT?
Yes, I don't like the look of the fences around the pools, especially WL. Just looks bad.
Ssshh, don't tell anyone, but the lobby bar at BC still serves bar snacks (if you say it too loud, Georgie K will make sure they get taken away ... Look, how can Disney make money when the Cape May Cafe buffet is only $37.99 per person?)
I truly wonder how Disney will get people to spend any measurable time in the soon to be reBRANDED park next year when all the walls go up. There's already nothing much to do.
I won't talk about show quality across the board because you either know how bad it is and agree, you know how bad it is but don't really care or you simply don't pay attention.
Thanks to whomever made the MAGIC happen at the WL. It was a lovely night of food, drink and company!
No, before you ask, I didn't go to UNI (beyond the Royal Pacific and City Walk) on this visit, even though a friend offered comps. Nothing against the place as I largely love what they are doing, but I have spent so much time there over the past 18-36 months that I would like it to remain special and not simply become me riding Pirates at the MK yet again because that's what you do. I am fatigued by the entire O-Town theme park experience and am looking forward to experiencing parks in China, California and, perhaps, Germany as the year moves on.
To the CM driving her company pickup up the walkway from YC over to BW to park it under the awning for Atlantic Dance, yes, I was giving you dirty looks and, yes, I don't think that was either safe or good show. But I am sure you had a very important reason for doing so.
No, not really impressed with what I am seeing from Disney Springs, thus far. Walk through the place with someone with an eye for design and you see so many glaring missteps that no Lifestyler will ever notice.
Greatly looking forward to attending DL's 60th Diamond Celebration this summer (and fall and ...)
Not greatly looking forward to every O-Town Lifestyler blogging and tweeting endless crap from there in about a month.
I admit that these aren't the most scintillating musings I've ever put up, but the visit was low key and meant for spending time outside in nice weather (the latter of which didn't happen at all, except for Monday night after it poured all day). There just isn't a whole lot to talk about ... might have to go back to China talk and/or talk about the definitive NGE piece that Fast Company put out and folks around these parts seem to largely wish to take as gospel.
Or, perhaps, it's time for something entirely different ... we shall see.
Yes, I went to the new location and they most definitely do NOT serve the swirl. It is still served at the old locale, albeit with Citrus Swirl. I'd have rather had one of these, but the 'new' Sunshine Tree closes hours before the park does, so it was not an option.
I probably should have just told the CM that I didn't want what she was selling and had an ice cream sundae on MSUSA ... but I had a better one at Friendly's a few nights later (this should be good!)
Animaniac93-98
Well-Known Member
I rode the fire wagon up the length of the street in September. Was a nice way to start the day.
I don't think they run after noon...or 11:00am.
I do intend to try it, but for steak as I am not a big seafood eater. I had some $$$ unexpectedly fall into my lap today that would have covered a very nice meal there and then some ... but it wasn't in the original budget.
BTW, any feelings on Rocco's Tacos? They started down this end of the state and seem very popular with the Lifestylers (I am assuming they gave free grub to them when they opened). I wanted to try the Dr. Phillips one, but ran out of time.
Oh, as to those cars, I was talking to a friend tonight who was there and I said that in a few years, people will want photos/ephemera with the cars because they'll be long gone!
I rode the fire wagon up the length of the street in September. Was a nice way to start the day.
I don't think they run after noon...or 11:00am.
Yep, I thought that was it. I'm usually just starting my day around that time ... and not at a theme park.
NearTheEars
Well-Known Member
We hitched a ride on the fire truck down MSUSA a few weeks ago. It was pretty MAGICAL as you would say.
The CM was from near our hometown back up in Ohio so that was fun talking about our old neck of the woods.
Other than the fire truck I think I've seen another car, and obviously the trolley. But all of this is right after rope drop. They all disappear once the hoards overwhelm the park at noon.
Spirited MM+ Musing:
Even at the MK, it is so easy for someone like me (or many of you) to game the system. All it takes is brains and a few minutes online to book three big attractions (let's say two mountain and SDMT or two of those and PPF) and then arrive in the evening with those booked, do another 5-6 attractions that are almost walk-ons and call it a night. All without spending a penny in the park.
I can hit the WDW key nine attraction/experience metric in four hours with an ice cream or a stop in a gift shop.
Again, it's the people who don't know better who book a FP to meet Cindy, a FP to ride the Mad Tea Party and a FP to view the MSEP who are getting screwed by this. And many are first-timers who won't return.
Even at the MK, it is so easy for someone like me (or many of you) to game the system. All it takes is brains and a few minutes online to book three big attractions (let's say two mountain and SDMT or two of those and PPF) and then arrive in the evening with those booked, do another 5-6 attractions that are almost walk-ons and call it a night. All without spending a penny in the park.
I can hit the WDW key nine attraction/experience metric in four hours with an ice cream or a stop in a gift shop.
Again, it's the people who don't know better who book a FP to meet Cindy, a FP to ride the Mad Tea Party and a FP to view the MSEP who are getting screwed by this. And many are first-timers who won't return.