A Spirited Perfect Ten

lazyboy97o

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DS is basically a shopping mall, It's not exclusive you are not paying admission to Fenway (were you there on Opening Day?) so while I can see the 3.00 hotdog compared to the Cumberland Farms 1.00 hotdog, The 6.00 hotdog is out of it's league so to speak.

DS has to compete with the greater Orlando market, yes it's a walk from SSR but otherwise it's just another upscale mall this one operated by Disney
A lifestyle center is going to have different price points as part of creating an image.
 

ford91exploder

Resident Curmudgeon
I'd argue that the Boathouse is a much greater experience then a vanilla Ruth's Chris. Just my opinion of course.

I think overall it's fine, price wise, for the market. Plenty of comparables in WDW that bear that out.

Fair enough, What do you think is comparable in the Orlando market? - Next trip is in may so suggestions appreciated.
 

Goofyernmost

Well-Known Member
In fairness, there is no dress code for the Boathouse. So Cargo shorts would be ok. Also, I own and wear cargo shorts. Along with every other 18-34 year old I know. Not sure how they got such a bad rep around here, it's not like they are Jorts.
I'll bet to make matters even worse, you bought those cargo shorts at Wal*Mart. Uncool, really!;)

The steaks start at $39. The top end is a $115 steak for two.
You have got to stop injecting reality into this. You are ruining the discussion!:mad::joyfull:
 

ford91exploder

Resident Curmudgeon
In fairness, there is no dress code for the Boathouse. So Cargo shorts would be ok. Also, I own and wear cargo shorts. Along with every other 18-34 year old I know. Not sure how they got such a bad rep around here, it's not like they are Jorts.

As do I - but tend to wear cargo pants while hiking as up here the pricker bushes (and they are EVERYWHERE) are hard on unprotected skin.
 

xdan0920

Think for yourselfer
Fair enough, What do you think is comparable in the Orlando market? - Next trip is in may so suggestions appreciated.

Citricos
Shula's(not a fan, but it's comparable)
Brown Derby (again, not a fan)
Cali Grill

Just a few in WDW. Comparable price wise, though I suspect The Boathouse will outstrip them all in quality.

I'll bet to make matters even worse, you bought those cargo shorts at Wal*Mart. Uncool, really!;)

Old Navy all the way.
 

Kingoglow

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DisDan

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Although somewhat tangental, since we touch upon the subject of capitol expenditures often I though I would share this piece. BlackRock's Larry Fink wrote a letter to ALL CEOs in the US. In it, he urges them to reduce dividend increases and stock buyback programs and instead use that capitol for innovation and long term strategy.

BlackRock’s Chief, Laurence Fink, Urges Other C.E.O.s to Stop Being So Nice to Investors

Good read, thanks for posting that. Let's hope some C.E.O.'s might take that to heart, though I highly doubt it.
 

ParentsOf4

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Well, Wall Street is practically wetting its collective self at the prospects for Avengers: Age of Ultron and Disney's movie slate in general. THR reports that it is tracking toward an over $200 million opening and could possibly post the best numbers ever (not adjusted for inflation, they never are).

Here's a story that @ParentsOf4 might enjoy:
http://www.thestreet.com/story/1311...record-setting-summer-blockbuster-season.html
It's all in the title of the article:

Disney Stock Rises Ahead of Potential Record Setting Summer Blockbuster Season​

Wise investors know that when everyone is talking about how great a stock is, then it's time for a "correction".

After a tremendous run-up in stock price, everyone is talking as if DIS has no place to go but up. The reality is that DIS is through the roof with sky-high expectations built into the price. Anything less than home runs by all divisions (and another $6.5 billion in stock buybacks ;)) will lead to a correction.

DIS is due for a fall in the next 1-2 years. Not because the company did something wrong but because, as it always does, Wall Street can't control its "irrational exuberance".

Frankly, Disney's stock price is representative of why there will be another stock market crash sooner rather than later. :(

Even with last year's success of Guardians of the Galaxy, Frozen, The Winter's Solider, and Maleficent, Studio Entertainment generated only 12% of operating income. That was double the year before. However, you'd never know that by reading this article, which seems to be absolutely giddy that this year's films will lead to explosive growth in 2015. What about the other 88% of the company?

Yes, a successful movie has consumer tie-ins but, as Disney specifies, "Studio Entertainment segment revenues and operating income include an allocation of Consumer Products revenues, which is meant to reflect royalties on sales of merchandise based on certain film properties." In other words, much of the bump from tie-ins is already lumped into studio revenue and profits.

Again, what about the other 88% of the company?

Disney's challenge is that 2014 was an exceptionally successful year, and CEO Bob Iger exercised the stock options to prove it. :D

In order to justify the current stock price, Disney has to pile success on top of success. Blockbusters are already built into the price. Having to compete with last year's Frozen, Studio Entertainment revenue declined 2% for the first fiscal quarter of 2015, and that's taking into account home rentals and sales for Guardians of the Galaxy and Frozen. Revenue from theatrical distribution dropped 46%. Big Hero 6 is not going to have the same strong home rentals that Disney's earlier films did.

The run-up in stock price is not Disney's doing. With the exception of the ridiculous amounts being spent on stock buybacks, Disney's management is operating the company properly.

Wall Street is the one that's running up the stock price.
 
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ParentsOf4

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Although somewhat tangental, since we touch upon the subject of capitol expenditures often I though I would share this piece. BlackRock's Larry Fink wrote a letter to ALL CEOs in the US. In it, he urges them to reduce dividend increases and stock buyback programs and instead use that capitol for innovation and long term strategy.

BlackRock’s Chief, Laurence Fink, Urges Other C.E.O.s to Stop Being So Nice to Investors
Quoting in part from Mr. Fink's letter:

As I am sure you recognize, the effects of the short-termist phenomenon are troubling both to those seeking to save for long-term goals such as retirement and for our broader economy. In the face of these pressures, more and more corporate leaders have responded with actions that can deliver immediate returns to shareholders, such as buybacks or dividend increases, while underinvesting in innovation, skilled workforces or essential capital expenditures necessary to sustain long-term growth.​

In 2014, dividends and buybacks in the U.S. alone totaled more than $900 billion, according to Standard & Poor’s — the highest level on record. With interest rates approaching zero, returning excessive amounts of capital to investors — who will enjoy comparatively meager benefits from it in this environment — sends a discouraging message about a company’s ability to use its resources wisely and develop a coherent plan to create value over the long term.​

100% right.
 
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Lord_Vader

Join me, together we can rule the galaxy.
Good read, thanks for posting that. Let's hope some C.E.O.'s might take that to heart, though I highly doubt it.

Blackrock carries a lot of weight with executive management, their funds are the backbone of many 401k programs therefore invest a lot of money in companies. They have a vested interest in long-term gains with stability and don't worry as much about quarterly earnings.
 

mahnamahna101

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No way Pixels makes that much money! It looks like garbage! LOL
Plenty of movies look awful...

But when you considering its tracking, the insane amount of trailer views, Adam Sandler's decent starpower (in the right film, he still gets people in the theater), Chris Columbus' success with broad family-friendly comedies (Home Alone 1-2, Mrs. Doubtfire, Night at the Museum trilogy as a producer) and tentpoles (Harry Potter 1-2, Percy Jackson to a much lower degree), the lack of anything family-friendly in August... I have a feeling this is the kind of nostalgic crowdpleaser that will take everyone by surprise.

Maybe not $240 million, but $160-180 million is reasonable. It's going to do $125 million DOM minimum, and that's only if it's a slight disappointment.

The first one made $113.7 million in the US. You think the sequel is going to make that much less?
Similar to Horrible Bosses, no one asked for a sequel to this. The fact that a sizable portion of the original cast and Soderbergh are gone doesn't help matters either.

$55-65 million would be solid for this.

I would swap Pixels and Magic Mike XXL on the list.
Magic Mike XXL isn't doing $100 million, let alone $240 million. They're both fine where they are.

With this kind of release schedule I think this will be the year at least one major studio goes bankrupt, Too many big budget tentpoles chasing too few consumer dollars is the long and short of it.

WB will probably shift a few of their films to Fall 2015 or Winter 2016. Pan and San Andreas are set to bomb hard in their current spots.

I've always felt Hollywood should spread the tentpoles across the entire year. They seem to mostly be taking that advice for 2016. February-April is a fairly balanced, well-rounded slate. May isn't overcrowded. June-July is a huge mess, though: 6-7 movies need to move in order to avoid cannibalizing their potential audiences. August looks solid for once.
 

truecoat

Well-Known Member
In fairness, there is no dress code for the Boathouse. So Cargo shorts would be ok. Also, I own and wear cargo shorts. Along with every other 18-34 year old I know. Not sure how they got such a bad rep around here, it's not like they are Jorts.

I thought the point was that these bloggers are attending an invite only event and don't make an effort to dress up for the occasion. Rolling into said event with what they were wearing yesterday.
 

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