A Spirited Perfect Ten

Next Big Thing

Well-Known Member
Agree on both points However look at the past weekend, All parks in Orlando stepped up security. Universal did it in a professional manner which did not have much impact on guest experience (I was there for the Mannheim Steamroller concerts), Disney basically hired a goon squad with a really bad reputation, Disney HAD the money to hire the best ie Wackenhut, Wells Fargo, Securitas or Garda yet they hired the bottom of the barrel.

Disney feels they are untouchable from a business point of view and that the guests will eat up whatever crap they serve which is why my expectations are low for Disney's upcoming additions
Universal also has the advantage of limited access point to enter the main park/city walk area so you can park hop and not hve to worry about metal detectors. At Disney, detectors at the gates are necessary.
 

Next Big Thing

Well-Known Member
With a franchise of this age, and considering the pent up demand for content with this first one, I expect about an 8% decrease in box office for each of the next two. Rogue One won't come close to TFA's numbers. The Han Solo one will do very well.
Of course it won't come close to TFA, likely none of the following SW movies will, but Rogue One could surprise. If reviews turn out to be good and word of mouth spreads well, it could to be much better than many expect. The plot intrigues me.

I'm definitely looking forward to the Han Solo and Boba Fett movies though.
 

ParentsOf4

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Which leads us to Bob Iger's uncomfortable televised interview with Bloomberg that was quietly released on Monday. An interview in which he puked forth how happy the company has been with Star Wars (gee, with a 'shove it down their throats the world over for the past year' model, who ever saw that coming?) An interview in which he was clearly caught off-guard (maybe Zenia was hanging with gal pals Ursula, Maleficent and Cruella for a Lonely Evil Gals Holiday Party in Van Nuys) by questions on SDL.

Bob admitted that once again he wasn't able to live up to prior word and announce an opening date before the end of the year. He was also not forthcoming on having one soon. Simply saying they'd announce something in early 2016 ... because ... you know ... you can simply say on Feb. 3rd that SDL will debut on June 11th. There's no need to have a buildup and media splash. No need to allow people (or simply myself and @Lee and @WDWFigment and a few others here) to plan ahead. Besides, this park isn't really for people more than a few hundred miles from Shanghai and its amazing (and visible approximately 31 days a year) skyline.

But then ... well, Bob came apart. He basically said the Chinese weren't capable of building complex things like theme parks (I am sure he simply forgot the venues of the Beijing Olympiad, the thousands of miles of new high-speed rail or even all of those skyscrapers hiding in Shanghai's fog). He came off defensive. His quotes and demeanor came off offensive to his Chinese 'partners' so what did he do?
During the Bloomberg interview, perhaps more interesting for WDW fans were CEO Bob Iger's comments regarding MagicBands:

Q: The magic bands technology, the seamless pay that you rolled out in Orlando that was successful but also a big investment. Will we see that in Shanghai? Or has Apple Pay, mobile payments, kind of made that obsolete?

Iger: What you'll see in Shanghai is a park that from a technological perspective is more advanced than anything we've ever built. That will show up in the attractions themselves but it will also show up in commerce or B to C or C to B transactions. So the consumer will be able to buy their tickets, use their mobile devices in far more advanced, compelling ways than any other place from a theme park perspective that we are today.

Unveiled in January 2013, Iger essentially is admitting that MagicBands already are obsolete.
 

ford91exploder

Resident Curmudgeon
Universal also has the advantage of limited access point to enter the main park/city walk area so you can park hop and not hve to worry about metal detectors. At Disney, detectors at the gates are necessary.

My comments were directed at the professionalism of the operation. UNI used professionals to scan 100% of entries, Disney hired goons to
'randomly sample' (read abuse people) take a look at @RedSox1 's post where one of his friends who was a double amputee was forced through the detectors and asked 'if he had any metal'
 

ford91exploder

Resident Curmudgeon
Its safe to say they work properly over 99% of the time

You do realize of course that 99% multiplied even by a million customers is a huge amount of failures and puts the organization at about a 2.5 sigma quality level. Here for your numerical pleasure is a chart with with failure rates per million opportunities as used by organizations with Six Sigma programs.

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Even if Disney were at a 4 Sigma level on Magic Bands the 'horror stories' would be nearly non-existant, But people crow about 99% success not realizing that it means 10,000 failures per million opportunities.
 

Hakunamatata

Le Meh
Premium Member
You do realize of course that 99% multiplied even by a million customers is a huge amount of failures and puts the organization at about a 2.5 sigma quality level. Here for your numerical pleasure is a chart with with failure rates per million opportunities as used by organizations with Six Sigma programs.

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Even if Disney were at a 4 Sigma level on Magic Bands the 'horror stories' would be nearly non-existant, But people crow about 99% success not realizing that it means 10,000 failures per million opportunities.
So is a failure something along the lines of having to scan a second time because it didn't read the first time?
 

Cesar R M

Well-Known Member
Those are examples of Earthquake + poor building standards. But there are news where buildings actually fall by themselves.

http://www.newschinamag.com/magazine/the-bad-die-young

The best part was this:

"But, if the national news media are to be believed, buildings are collapsing almost as quickly as they can be erected."
 

AEfx

Well-Known Member
You do realize of course that 99% multiplied even by a million customers is a huge amount of failures and puts the organization at about a 2.5 sigma quality level. Here for your numerical pleasure is a chart with with failure rates per million opportunities as used by organizations with Six Sigma programs.

Oh Lord please no...please! It already takes Disney five-years to do an 18-month job, add in Six Sigma and they will be taking a decade to build a spinner ride...
 

AEfx

Well-Known Member
Jeeze...I mean, it just keeps going and going and going.

List of box office records set by TFA

Wikipedia said:
Worldwide
  • Biggest worldwide opening weekend and single weekend gross – $529 million.[1]
  • Widest worldwide IMAX release – 940 IMAX theaters.[2]
  • Biggest worldwide opening weekend of 2015 – $529 million.[1]
  • Biggest worldwide December opening weekend – $529 million.[3]
  • Biggest December international opening weekend – $281 million.[3]
  • Biggest Disney international opening – $281 million.[1]
  • Biggest IMAX worldwide opening weekend – $48 million.[4]
  • Biggest single day IMAX worldwide gross – $17.7 million (on Friday, December 18, 2015).[4]
  • Biggest single day IMAX international gross – $4.8 million (on Saturday, December 19, 2015).[4]
  • Fastest film to gross $1 billion – 9 days
United States and Canada


It broke Jurassic World 's record for the biggest-opening weekend of all time in the United States and Canada.
  • Biggest opening weekend and single weekend gross – $247.97 million.[5]
  • Biggest opening day and single day gross – $119.1 million.[6][7] It was the first film to gross over $100 million in a single day.[6] This figure incorporates the $57 million it earned from its Thursday night previews. Excluding this amount, it earned the third biggest "single Friday" gross with $62.1 million which is behind Jurassic World ($63.4 million) and The Avengers ($63.7 million).[8]
  • Biggest 3-day ($247.97 million),[9] 4-day ($288.08 million),[10] 5-day ($325.49 million),[11] 6-day ($363.46 million),[12] 7-day ($391.5 million),[13] 8-day ($440.4 million),[14] 9-day ($496.98 million)[15] and 10-day ($544.57 million)[16] opening gross.
  • Biggest opening week (Friday-Thursday) – $391.5 million[17][18] It was the first film to earn more than $300 million in a single week.[17]
  • Biggest second weekend – $153.52 million[19]
  • Widest IMAX release – 392 IMAX theaters.[20]
  • Widest December release – 4,134 theaters.[20]
  • Widest 3D release – 3,300 theaters.[20]
  • Biggest IMAX single day pre-sales – $6.5 million.[21]
  • Biggest overall pre-sales – $100+ million.[22][23][24]
  • Biggest Christmas day pre-sales on Fandango. It broke the record previously held by Les Misérables and Django Unchained in 2012.[25]
  • Biggest pre-sales in Canada.[26]
  • Biggest Thursday night IMAX previews – $5.7 million.[27]
  • Biggest December opening/single day gross – $119.1 million.[28]
  • Biggest Thursday night previews – $57 million.[27] This figure incorporates revenues generated from the "Star Wars Marathon Event" show on December 17, 2015 from 135 theaters in which all previous six Star Wars films were shown along with Star Wars: The Force Awakens. Ticket prices cost $59.99 for all the films (including The Force Awakens) at an average of $8.57 per movie. Nonetheless it broke Harry Potter and the Deathly Hallows – Part 2 's former previews record of $43.5 million set in 2011.[29][30][31]
  • Biggest Friday gross – $119.1 million.[32]
  • Biggest Sunday gross – $60.5 million.[33]
  • Biggest Monday gross – $40.1 million.[34][35] This broke the $27.7 million Monday record held for over ten years by Spider-Man 2 (2004), which if adjusted for inflation amounts to $37 million in 2015 dollars. It also broke the record for the biggest non-holiday Monday gross.[36] The film dropped 33.8% from Sunday to Monday and is tied with Avatar for the smallest drop of all time during that period of time.[37]
  • Biggest Tuesday gross – $37.3 million.[38][39] It earned $37.3 million on its second weekday, breaking the $35 million Tuesday record that was the opening day of The Amazing Spider-Man in 2012, which if adjusted for inflation would be $37.5 million in 2015 dollar currency. Jurassic World had the best Tuesday gross for a film that didn't open on Tuesday with $24 million. Nevertheless, The Force Awakens broke both records. Its Monday to Tuesday drop of -6.9% was more or less on par with the drops of The Lord of the Rings: Return of the King (2003) and The Dark Knight Rises (2012), -8% repectively.[40]
  • Biggest non-opening Wednesday gross – $38.1 million.[41][42] While The Force Awakens ranks sixth in terms of single Wednesday gross behind Twilight Saga: Eclipse ($68 million) Transformers: Revenge of the Fallen ($62 million), Harry Potter and the Half-Blood Prince ($58 million), Harry Potter and the Order of the Phoenix ($44 million), and Spider-Man 2 ($40 million), it is first in terms of films that didn't open on Wednesday (The Force Awakens opened on a Friday). All the aforementioned films opened on a Wednesday. This broke the record for largest non-Wednesday opening gross held by Transformers: Dark of the Moon ($37 million). Furthermore, it had an increase of 1.8% from Tuesday to Wednesday playing similar to Avatar which had a 2.23% increse in the said period.[43]
  • Biggest non-opening Friday gross – $49.34 million.[44] This broke Revenge of the Sith's former record of $43.6 million, which the latter film grossed in its second day of release.[44] The Force Awakens achieved this feat in its second week of release, breaking The Hunger Games: Catching Fire 's former record ($31 million over the 2013 Thanksgiving weekend) for the biggest second Friday.[45]
  • Biggest Friday to Saturday drop – $50.83 million.[46] However, in percentage terms, the film dropped 43%, which was far from The Ringer's wide release record of 72%.[47]
  • Biggest Holiday opening weekend – $247.97 million.[48]
  • Biggest PG-13 rated opening weekend – $247.97 million.[49]
  • Biggest December opening weekend – $247.97 million.[50] It was the first film to gross more than $100 million in a December opening weekend.[50]
  • Biggest opening weekend of 2015 –$247.97 million.[5]
  • Biggest opening weekend in the Star Wars franchise – $247.97 million.[51]
  • Highest grossing Star Wars film, surpassing the $431.9 million gross of the The Phantom Menace.[51]
  • Biggest IMAX opening weekend – $30.1 million.[52]
  • Biggest RealD 3D opening weekend – $78 million.[53] The previous record was jointly held by Marvel's The Avengers and Jurassic World, as both earned $70 million.[54]
  • Biggest weekend per-theater average for a wide release – $59,982 per theater.[55]
  • Largest amount of tickets sold in an opening weekend (adjusted for inflation) – 28.8 million tickets.[56]
  • Biggest three-day gross at a single U.S. location – $715,010 at Pacific's Arclight Hollywood.[57]
  • Fastest to $100, $150, $200, $250, $300, $350, $400, $450, and $500 million – 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 8, 9, and 10 days respectively.[58]
  • Biggest share of weekend tickets sales on Fandango – 37% of the film's $247.97 million opening.[59]
  • Biggest Christmas Eve gross – $27.1 million.[18] This broke Avatar 's former record of $11.2 million.[18]
  • Biggest Christmas Day gross – $49.3 million.[60][61] This broke Sherlock Holmes ' former record of $24.6 million in 2009.[60]
  • Number one film of the highest-grossing single aggregated weekend – $313 million.[62] That number represents the total combined gross of all movies in theaters on the weekend of December 18-20.[62] With a weekend gross of $247 million, The Force Awakens took in over 75% of that $313 million gross, as well as 81.2% of the combined gross of the top 12 films that weekend ($305.5 million).[63] The previous record for top 12 aggregated gross had been $266 million, set on the weekend of June 12-14, 2015.[63]
  • Biggest gap between first and second highest grossing films in a weekend – $233.7 million over Alvin and the Chipmunks: The Road Chip (December 18-20).[64]
United Kingdom, Ireland and Malta
  • Biggest opening weekend – £34 million ($50.6 million).[65] The $50.6 million record is based on a 4-day total. In terms of all-time opening weekend – irrespective of the number of days – Spectre holds the record with $63.7 million in its 7 day opening (including Monday previews).[66]
  • Biggest three-day opening weekend – £24.33 million ($36.2 million).[67] This broke the former record of £23.75 million ($35.3 million) achieved by Harry Potter and the Deathly Hallows – Part 2 in July 2011.[67]
  • Biggest opening and single day gross – £9.68 million ($14.3 million).[68] This includes revenues generated from 12.01 am previews on Wednesday night.[67]
  • Biggest advance ticket sales – 2 million.[69][70]
  • Biggest midnight gross – £2.4 million ($3.6 million).[68]
  • Biggest opening weekend of 2015 – $50.6 million.[65]
  • Biggest Disney opening weekend – $50.6 million.[65]
  • Biggest share of weekend gross – 83% of the weekend's total gross.[67]
  • Biggest Saturday gross – £8.71 million ($12.9 million).[67]
  • Biggest Sunday gross – £8.58 million ($12.7 million).[67]
  • Biggest Monday gross – £5.83 million ($8.6 million).[67][71] This eclipsed the former record of £5.05 million ($7.4 million) held by Harry Potter and the Prisoner of Azkaban in 2004 during the Bank holiday.[67]
  • Fastest film to reach £50 million ($74.3 million) – 6 days.[72] It grossed a total of $76.5 million in the said period.[72]
  • Biggest 7 day/1 week gross – £55.8 million ($82.9 million).[73]
Records in other countries
  • Biggest opening weekend of all time – Australia ($19.6 million), Russia, Germany ($27.5 million), Sweden, Norway, Finland, Austria, Poland (3-day), Denmark (5-day), Romania, Hungary, Bulgaria, Croatia, Ukraine, Iceland, Serbia and New Zealand.[65]
  • Biggest opening day of all time – Germany ($7.1 million), Australia ($6.8 million), Sweden ($1.7 million), Norway ($1.7 million), Brazil, New Zealand, Belgium ($800,000), Finland ($600,000), Netherlands ($800,000), French-speaking Switzerland, Austria, Ukraine, Slovakia, Croatia, Iceland, Serbia, Chile, Peru, Poland and Hungary.[74][75]
  • Biggest single day – Germany ($7.1 million), Sweden ($1.7 million), Norway ($1.1 million), Hungary and Iceland.[74]
  • Biggest pre-sales in Germany.[76]
  • Biggest opening day for Disney – France, Denmark, South Africa, Czech Republic, Turkey and Serbia.[74]
  • Biggest December opening day – Mexico ($3.4 million), Italy ($3.1 million), Argentina, France, Spain, Russia, Vietnam, Hong Kong, Malaysia, and Singapore.[74][75]
  • Biggest IMAX opening day – Australia, Germany, Brazil, Mexico, Austria, Turkey, Portugal, Qatar, UAE, Hong Kong, Thailand, Singapore, New Zealand, Chile, Costa Rica, and Trinidad.[74]
  • Biggest Monday gross – Denmark, Finland, France, Norway and Ukraine.[71]
 

BlueSkyDriveBy

Well-Known Member
Iger: What you'll see in Shanghai is a park that from a technological perspective is more advanced than anything we've ever built.
Does he just spout off with this stuff now, lacking any realization of the words coming out of his mouth?

What happens when this turkey opens and the endless cycle of systemic failures begins?

Will he simply deny these pronouncements? No matter how many YouTube videos of the interview are shoved in his face?

Go ahead and own it, Bob. You deliberately stuck around for SDL's opening. Sort of like waiting for the enemy to shoot you on the battlefield instead of hightailing it into the safety of retreat.

Brilliant. :rolleyes:
 

ParentsOf4

Well-Known Member
Isn't that the case with much of the tech today?
No, not really. Technology is constantly undergoing upgrades, not facing obsolescence. Mobile phones have existed for more than 40 years. Compact discs ruled the music industry for nearly 30 years. Video streaming is based on decades old technology. I saw my first HDTV back in the 1990s.

Microprocessors get faster and cheaper, enabling better consumer products at lower costs, but a CPU is still a CPU.

Iger didn't say Shanghai Disneyland would use an enhanced version of MagicBand, "MagicBand 2.0" if you will. When specifically asked about "MagicBand technology", Iger said "the consumer will be able to buy their tickets, use their mobile devices in far more advanced, compelling ways than any other place from a theme park perspective that we are today".

Iger is acknowledging that MagicBands have already been made obsolete by smart phone technology and enhanced software that everyone already has access to.
 
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Nubs70

Well-Known Member
You do realize of course that 99% multiplied even by a million customers is a huge amount of failures and puts the organization at about a 2.5 sigma quality level. Here for your numerical pleasure is a chart with with failure rates per million opportunities as used by organizations with Six Sigma programs.

View attachment 124453

Even if Disney were at a 4 Sigma level on Magic Bands the 'horror stories' would be nearly non-existant, But people crow about 99% success not realizing that it means 10,000 failures per million opportunities.
**golf clap**

Based on 2014 attendance of 19.3 million with 100 MB transactions/person/day, 99% success is embarrassing.
 
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