A Spirited Dirty Dozen ...

Cesar R M

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I know this was in the hurricane thread but just had to post in this thread because disgusting to treat guests like this....
https://twitter.com/onezumi/status/784119894254161920

I and another forum goer complained on a thread about that as well.. unbelievable.
Yet others had to defend disney with this classic answer..
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the.dreamfinder

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Something that got lost in the SDL attendance discussion from the South China Morning Post piece; SHENDI's, and likely Disney's, attendance projection for the first year of operation is 10-12 million guests.
 
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yeti

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Honestly, I fangirled. Fanboyed. Couldn't stop giggling after I saw it.

...I want more.

I have hope....my expectations are pretty much set that this will be the second-best Pirates movie. The guys directing it made "Kon-Tiki" a while back, which is terrific (I think it's on Netflix):

 

Mike S

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I still don't understand why everyone loves this macro.
If Disney isn't a business, what is it?
I made it as an insult to people who throw that term around as if people don't know that they're a business. This is the reason why Sully's idiotic face while saying it fits so perfectly. It's mockery.

The whole point is that they used to be a better business focused on making their custome-, I mean, guests, happy first and foremost. Their mantra of quality worked and had the secondary effect of making money for their shareholders too. Now the full focus is on shareholders.
 

Bairstow

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I made it as an insult to people who throw that term around as if people don't know that they're a business. This is the reason why Sully's idiotic face while saying it fits so perfectly. It's mockery.

The whole point is that they used to be a better business focused on making their custome-, I mean, guests, happy first and foremost. Their mantra of quality worked and had the secondary effect of making money for their shareholders too. Now the full focus is on shareholders.

That, sir, is a myth.
The only thing that has changed is your perception of their motivations.
 

csmat99

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Only three Potters have pulled in greater than 100, really two that qualify as more than 'only'.

People are expecting Rouge One to do 25% of TFA's business and Fantastic Beasts 100% of Deathly Hallows?

Both predictions are wildly off and need to meet in the middle.
Rouge One will do between 850 million -1.1 billion worldwide.
 

csmat99

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Agree Netflix would be an excellent acquisition but it would not be cheap and the Netflix executives would demand a 'seat at the table' they would not be content to 'siddown, shaddup and do what yer told'.

Netflix has the most important factor for success they have secured peering and transit agreements so their traffic can flow unimpeded and they have local distribution servers on all of the major ISP's networks.
The problem is the moment Disney buys Netflix..Comcast will get out of the agreements. Comcast is not going to go quietly they never do.
 

Cesar R M

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I made it as an insult to people who throw that term around as if people don't know that they're a business. This is the reason why Sully's idiotic face while saying it fits so perfectly. It's mockery.

The whole point is that they used to be a better business focused on making their custome-, I mean, guests, happy first and foremost. Their mantra of quality worked and had the secondary effect of making money for their shareholders too. Now the full focus is on shareholders.
Agree.
Now whatever theres giant cuts, reduction of entertainment.. replacement of old attractions for cheap overlays.. Some severely pixie dusted(as in overdozed)fans usually go full zealot when someone calls Disney for this.

And their last resort retort of them is always the same "BUT DISNEY IS A BUSINESS!". Its almost used always to shut down any conversation on how cheap Disney was on certain movement and how they could have plussed it (while Iger was more busy buying buybacks).
 

Bolna

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That, sir, is a myth.
The only thing that has changed is your perception of their motivations.

Yes, but the difference is that once one would believe it when they told one about the 4 Keys to the Kingdom being ranked Safety, Courtesy, Show, Efficiency. Now it has become blatantly obvious even for the more uninformed observer that Efficiency has moved up to at least number 2 on that list (and one can only hope that it will never become number 1).
 

ParentsOf4

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That, sir, is a myth.
The only thing that has changed is your perception of their motivations.
The Disney executives who ran Parks & Resorts during the 1970s and 1980s had a radically different view of the business and their Guests than Disney's current management.

To suggest otherwise is a disservice to those whose love for the business ultimately cost them their jobs.
 

SorcererMC

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That, sir, is a myth.
The only thing that has changed is your perception of their motivations.
By definition, the number one goal of business is to make a profit. With regard to P&R (which accounts for ~30% of revenue), Disney became the best by offering a high-quality product and superior customer service, in the hospitality industry. By definition, hospitality is about the relationship between a guest and their host, whereby a host welcomes and/or entertains a guest, ie the reason that Disney doesn't call them 'customers'. There is a difference between welcoming a guest and welcoming their wallet.;)

Fortunately for P&R, there has been a tourist boom since 2011, combine that with cost-cutting and Iger's acquisitions for growth and you end up with the charts below (taken from a 2014 Fool.com article that's actually decent http://www.fool.com/investing/gener...the-walt-disney-company-deserves-its-pla.aspx) :
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