A Spirited Dirty Dozen ...

Mike S

Mike S

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AEfx said:
After being a life long Nintendo fan, they have really worn nearly every ounce of care out of me. The Wii U has been an utter disappointment in almost every way, and nothing about the NX excites me whatsoever.

It feels like the offhand feedback they got about how much folks liked off-screen play and designed a whole system around it. They took the wrong lessons from the Wii U, it's pretty clear. I honestly can't think of anything they can announce at this point could change my feelings. Even if they wake up and start doing account wide download unlocks, etc.

I'll be buying Mario Color Splash this week - though even that irritates me, since some folks already have it downloaded due to a glitch that I missed out on. But I honestly feel as if this will be the last hurrah for me - I'm content with the last 30ish years of Mario and Zelda games to go back through when I get the itch.

That said, I do look forward to what Universal does with the IP, because, well, Universal.
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Really? I actually like the hybrid idea a lot. As an owner of both a Wii U and 3DS the idea of moving to a single device that puts both handheld and home console in one sounds great because it will be much easier on the wallet :)

Long game droughts could potentially be a thing of the past (the Wii U's #1 problem) because of all of their games being on one device rather than split between two. They won't have to make two versions of certain games for two different devices anymore either (NSMB, 3D Mario, Mario Kart, etc.) which could free up developer resources to pursue other projects. Plus, the new Zelda looks amazing and I would much prefer playing it on the new hardware that will have an actual life ahead of it. Wii U is pretty much dead which is sad because I really thought it had potential. I did have fun with it but it didn't meet my expectations at all.
 
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Quinnmac000

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This isn't good news

Disney’s biggest ever foreign investment is having a tough time living up to some analysts’ expectations.
Amid pageantry and patches of rain, Disney’s new Shanghai park threw open its doors to visitors for its official opening Thursday, June 16, 2016. (Credit: CNNMoney)

The U.S. entertainment giant opened its $5.5 billion Shanghai resort in June with a ceremony blending trademark Disney razzmatazz with speeches from top Chinese officials.

More than three months on, Disney says all is rosy. But the mega theme park hasn’t been a blockbuster hit with China’s cost-conscious consumers.

“It seems like the level of interest the Chinese have in the park has been waning a little bit,” said Richard Huang, China entertainment industry analyst for Nomura.
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http://ktla.com/2016/10/05/disneys-new-shanghai-theme-park-falling-short-of-expectations/
 
Nubs70

Nubs70

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the.dreamfinder said:
Using the 2015 TEA/AECOM figures as a loose benchmark, it would be the second lowest attended castle park ahead of HKDL and 10th out of the 12 Disney theme parks overall.
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Ouch.

To add: Watch Bob take a dump all over Staggs.

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the.dreamfinder

the.dreamfinder

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BrianLo said:
Well, you negated my rant!

Nothing says 'the parks are empty' like 'all the lines are too long'.
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Other than your anecdotal experiences during the park's opening week, what exactly makes you think that the Shanghai University of Fonance and Economics report is inaccurate?

It is possible for a theme park with popular lower capacity attractions like SDMT, Soaring, and RR to have very long lines but the park still is fairly empty.

As a for instance, here are the wait times for the most popular attractions at SHDL via the SDR at 7:30 PM Shanghai time on 10/6/16
Soaring: 90min
Roaring Rapids: 75min
Seven Dwarves Mine Train: 75min
Tron: 60min
Pirates 15min
 
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ParentsOf4

ParentsOf4

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BrianLo said:
Well, you negated my rant!

Nothing says 'the parks are empty' like 'all the lines are too long'.
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It makes me wonder if this is at least partially a weekday/weekend thing.

Are crowds below expectations during the week (resulting in lower than expected overall attendance) but above expectations during the weekend (resulting in complaints of long lines)?

Iger repeatedly boasted about 300 million people with disposable income living within 3 hours. As relative "locals", are they flooding the park on weekends?
 
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the.dreamfinder

the.dreamfinder

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ParentsOf4 said:
It makes me wonder if this is at least partially a weekday/weekend thing.

Are crowds below expectations during the week (resulting in lower than expected overall attendance) but above expectations during the weekend (resulting in complaints of long lines)?

Iger repeatedly boasted about X million income qualified people living within Y hours. As relative "locals", are they flooding the park on weekends?
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I'm thinking SHDL is sort of like DHS, where you have a number of shows, very popular low capacity attractions, and one, or two in DHS' case, high capacity E tickets.
 
SorcererMC

SorcererMC

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ParentsOf4 said:
It makes me wonder if this is at least partially a weekday/weekend thing.

Are crowds below expectations during the week (resulting in lower than expected overall attendance) but above expectations during the weekend (resulting in complaints of long lines)?

Iger repeatedly boasted about X million income qualified people living within Y hours. As relative "locals", are they flooding the park on weekends?
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Iger's previous comments on the last earnings call were that locals were not attending in high numbers, that they may be holding off until after the opening day level crowds die down. The problem w/ current news reports is that they aren't taking into account National Day/ 'Golden Week' this past week which is a major travel holiday for the Chinese, and I would assume that Shanghai Disneyland attendance got a boost from that. However, it is the last major holiday until the New Year and Spring Festival, so meeting annual attendance expectations may hinge on high spring/summer attendance.
 
Princess Leia

Princess Leia

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the.dreamfinder said:
Other than your anecdotal experiences during the park's opening week, what exactly makes you think that the Shanghai University of Fonance and Economics report is inaccurate?

It is possible for a theme park with popular lower capacity attractions like SDMT, Soaring, and RR to have very long lines but the park still is fairly empty.

As a for instance, here are the wait times for the most popular attractions at SHDL via the SDR at 7:30 PM Shanghai time on 10/6/16
Soaring: 90min
Roaring Rapids: 75min
Seven Dwarves Mine Train: 75min
Tron: 60min
Pirates 15min
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How did Pirates only have a 15 minute wait? That ride looked beautiful.
Also, I'm interested on seeing what wait times are around 2:00 in the afternoon.
 

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