A Spirited 15 Rounds ...

[jpeden]

When Disney started making cabana's and ****...they made it pretty clear their new target audience is the upper class. A trip to WDW shouldn't be as expensive as a trip to Europe.

This. This. This. It's crazy. A week long trip to WDW for food and wine would have cost more than our week long trip to Paris in two weeks (which includes two nights club level at Newport Bay Club at Disneyland Paris and five nights in central Paris). We actually cancelled our trip to food and wine when we realized we could go to Paris for the same price.

 

[RSoxNo1]

After riding the new Luigi's I wish that's what we were getting and not Mater.

Sooooooooo much fun.

Luigi's is an awful ride when you know what this tech can do. I wanted Luigi's to be like Aquatopia on land and it wasn't 25% of that.

 

[Bocabear]

You must be visiting with @ford91exploder

Come to think of it you guys seem to have a lot in common. Long lost cousins?

Well....I call things as I see them, I remember better days and better desig at the parks, and as far as DVC is concerned, I sure wish I didnt have maintenance issues in the units, especially after spending the kind of money we spent for DVC, but there it is.
It must be nice to never be aware of anything other than "Yay I am at Disney World!"...but when you have gone to a place as often as I have been there, you notice things... Sometimes they are great...sometimes not-so-great, sometimes really bad. I don't think of these boards as a cheerleading board...you can go on the Disney site for that...Here I think we can discuss what we see and how we feel about it.

 

[MotherOfBirds]

Children tend to be very hard on furniture and living spaces in general. When its not technically "theirs" people are more likely to let their precious little gifts from god run amok

 

[asianway]

Luigi's is an awful ride when you know what this tech can do. I wanted Luigi's to be like Aquatopia on land and it wasn't 25% of that.

Aquatopia is pretty, but I dont know Id call it good. And it made me sicker than the teacups ever did.

 

[ParentsOf4]

You must be visiting with @ford91exploder

Come to think of it you guys seem to have a lot in common. Long lost cousins?

I've run into issues with broken toilets, broken refrigerator shelves, torn furniture upholstery, shower doors that would not close properly, nevermind all the dings/marks on doors and walls.

Keep in mind that most DVC rooms run at near 100% occupancy year-round. Assuming at least 50 different families staying in any particular room, it takes just one selfish family to ruin a room for a lot of Guests who follow.

WDW has nearly 30,000 rooms to maintain, an average of about 80 per day including weekends. And that doesn't include the maintenance required throughout the rest of the resort.

Meanwhile over the years, the maintenance staff as a ratio to the number Guests has been reduced. Maintenance is being asked to do more with less. It's not like these people have anywhere near the resources needed to inspect rooms between each stay.

Is it really surprising that rooms are sometimes in unsatisfactory condition?

 

[EPCOTCenterLover]

Spirit, come back!

 

[Bocabear]

I've run into issues with broken toilets, broken refrigerator shelves, torn furniture upholstery, shower doors that would not close properly, nevermind all the dings/marks on doors and walls.

Keep in mind that most DVC rooms run at near 100% year-round. Assuming at least 50 different families staying in any particular room, it takes just one selfish family to ruin a room for a lot of Guests who follow.

WDW has nearly 30,000 rooms to maintain, an average of about 80 per day including weekends. And that doesn't include the maintenance required throughout the rest of the resort.

Meanwhile over the years, the maintenance staff as a ratio to the number Guests has been reduced. Maintenance is being asked to do more with less. It's not like these people have anywhere near the resources needed to inspect rooms between each stay.

Is it really surprising that rooms sometimes are in unsatisfactory condition?

No not at all... it is a lot to maintain, but...we the DVC owners are paying for maintenance, and as they reduce their staff, I do not rermember my maintenance fees going down...
Maybe they should have a little class and send out videos to all DVC owners about ow to respect the property for their own, and other guest's future enjoyment... If, say, your precious snowflake tears the curtain rod out of the ceiling, instead of pretending it was someone else report it so that it can get fixed before the next guest arrives and has to call for maintenance...Don't steal the meager kitchen supplies, if you break something or notice it broken, have a check sheet for checkout where those things could be reported and dealt with before the next guest has to inherit the problem,

 

[TiggerDad]

Did we lose Spirit?? @WDW1974 ? Marie

What a shock that a Spirit thread would spiral out of control....

 

[wannabeBelle]

What a shock that a Spirit thread would spiral out of control....

 

[asianway]

No not at all... it is a lot to maintain, but...we the DVC owners are paying for maintenance, and as they reduce their staff, I do not rermember my maintenance fees going down...
Maybe they should have a little class and send out videos to all DVC owners about ow to respect the property for their own, and other guest's future enjoyment... If, say, your precious snowflake tears the curtain rod out of the ceiling, instead of pretending it was someone else report it so that it can get fixed before the next guest arrives and has to call for maintenance...Don't steal the meager kitchen supplies, if you break something or notice it broken, have a check sheet for checkout where those things could be reported and dealt with before the next guest has to inherit the problem,

They didnt go down, but they didnt go up more. Theres an interesting formula there if you look at the numbers, rob Peter to pay Paul. Most comparisons Ive seen like on on DVC news look at overall fee increases, not necessarily how say the maintenance costs increased over time in a vacuum.

 

[PizzaPlanet]

After riding the new Luigi's I wish that's what we were getting and not Mater.

Sooooooooo much fun.

We should be getting both honestly. They could have themed it to Woody's Roundup.

 

[GoofGoof]

Well....I call things as I see them, I remember better days and better desig at the parks, and as far as DVC is concerned, I sure wish I didnt have maintenance issues in the units, especially after spending the kind of money we spent for DVC, but there it is.
It must be nice to never be aware of anything other than "Yay I am at Disney World!"...but when you have gone to a place as often as I have been there, you notice things... Sometimes they are great...sometimes not-so-great, sometimes really bad. I don't think of these boards as a cheerleading board...you can go on the Disney site for that...Here I think we can discuss what we see and how we feel about it.

I hear what you're saying and don't disagree. I was just giving you a hard time because I had a nearly identical discussion with Mr Ford about BLT which happens to also be his home resort and he stayed in the grand villas once and had similar issues.

 

[truecoat]

Except the rides are not the same as those found at any of the other toy story lands. I'm pretty sure you know that.

If you want to call slinky off the shelf then you have to also call thunder mountain, space mountain and every other coaster on property off the shelf. Especially rock n roller coaster.

Every major coaster is pretty much custom. Some are built with the same or very similar layouts like Rock N Roller coaster and Xpress over in Holland but they have to be designed and engineered to fit into the space and/or terrain of the parks where built.

That being said, it's my opinion this Toy Story land will end up being one of the laziest projects WDI has put out.

 

[GoofGoof]

I've run into issues with broken toilets, broken refrigerator shelves, torn furniture upholstery, shower doors that would not close properly, nevermind all the dings/marks on doors and walls.

Keep in mind that most DVC rooms run at near 100% occupancy year-round. Assuming at least 50 different families staying in any particular room, it takes just one selfish family to ruin a room for a lot of Guests who follow.

WDW has nearly 30,000 rooms to maintain, an average of about 80 per day including weekends. And that doesn't include the maintenance required throughout the rest of the resort.

Meanwhile over the years, the maintenance staff as a ratio to the number Guests has been reduced. Maintenance is being asked to do more with less. It's not like these people have anywhere near the resources needed to inspect rooms between each stay.

Is it really surprising that rooms are sometimes in unsatisfactory condition?

I've gotten lucky recently. I stayed at BCV right before the major refurb and was actually freightened the room would be a complete mess based on all the complaints I heard here. It was actually in pretty good shape. I think maybe the low expectations helped some. BLT does seem prone to a lot of scrapes and dings in the walls. Some of it may be from people dragging the sleeper chair into the master bedroom but in general I don't know how people manage to make all of those marks.

 

[gustaftp]

That castle that people have debated all over the Disney Twitverse can be beautiful from certain angles, but largely is as ugly as you might think. The size and scale are off, purposely. Why? Because the Shendi 'partners' demanded the biggest and most ostentatious castle for bragging rights. If you think size is everything, and some fanbois surely do, then you'll likely have no issue with this.

So, basically, it is the McMansion of Disney castles.

 

[FigmentJedi]

Because Disney's film projects weren't quite safe and formulaic enough...

http://www.wdwinfo.com/news-stories/disney-research-creating-ai-to-predict-the-success-of-stories/

 

[Bolna]

I've run into issues with broken toilets, broken refrigerator shelves, torn furniture upholstery, shower doors that would not close properly, nevermind all the dings/marks on doors and walls.

Keep in mind that most DVC rooms run at near 100% occupancy year-round. Assuming at least 50 different families staying in any particular room, it takes just one selfish family to ruin a room for a lot of Guests who follow.

WDW has nearly 30,000 rooms to maintain, an average of about 80 per day including weekends. And that doesn't include the maintenance required throughout the rest of the resort.

Meanwhile over the years, the maintenance staff as a ratio to the number Guests has been reduced. Maintenance is being asked to do more with less. It's not like these people have anywhere near the resources needed to inspect rooms between each stay.

Is it really surprising that rooms are sometimes in unsatisfactory condition?

I have had my share of maintenance issues with DVC rooms. My theory is that it is a combination of high occupancy as well as reduced housekeeping. Because the housekeeper is in the room less often as DVC does not get daily housekeeping they have less opportunity to notice things that are not working. Add to that the stress of turnover day when they are often behind schedule (often my room is not ready by 4pm), there is no time for a thorough checking if everything is working. Then plenty of guests don't want to be bothered to report any issues and things just stack up. We often bring a list of room issues to the front desk after we checked in. I think our stay at VWL last winter was the first at WDW without any room maintenance problems.

 

[NearTheEars]

I've run into issues with broken toilets, broken refrigerator shelves, torn furniture upholstery, shower doors that would not close properly, nevermind all the dings/marks on doors and walls.

Keep in mind that most DVC rooms run at near 100% occupancy year-round. Assuming at least 50 different families staying in any particular room, it takes just one selfish family to ruin a room for a lot of Guests who follow.

WDW has nearly 30,000 rooms to maintain, an average of about 80 per day including weekends. And that doesn't include the maintenance required throughout the rest of the resort.

Meanwhile over the years, the maintenance staff as a ratio to the number Guests has been reduced. Maintenance is being asked to do more with less. It's not like these people have anywhere near the resources needed to inspect rooms between each stay.

Is it really surprising that rooms are sometimes in unsatisfactory condition?

And aren't folks with DVC paying annual maintenance fees to boot? I'd be a little upset too if things weren't being kept up well.

 

[Andrew C]

steady....