A Flap in the Right Direction

SirGoofy

Member
The successful HoP refurb really has the Doom and Gloom Society (DAGS) worked into a frenzy I see. Perfect! :D

74 assumes that the sheriff reference is Iger. As usual he is wrong. 100% wrong. And it's not Lasseter either as someone thought. When it becomes so obvious that even the most die hard DAG can't deny there is a new Sheriff, I'll be happy to reveal the answer. Until then, rage on DAGS, it actually compliments you. :lol:

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jt is blowing smoke, trying to prove his point.. and he can't... so any little paint job or light bulb change or piece of gum scraped up off the sidewalk will be further proof of the new sheriff in town... There is no new sherrif... Maybe there is... Might be that kid.. what's his name?? Howard Rubens... Graduate from Princeton, or is it Yale, with a degree is business... He's a MBA.. put in creative control... cause, well, he knows money.... :rolleyes: Rasulo loves him cause he is creative... with the books... with money...

Quoted for truth.
 

Captain Chaos

Well-Known Member
pretty much

$10 says tomorrow, after Disney shows the expansion plans to HKDL, JT is gonna be over here all day saying how "Disney is back" and that "all the haters just got proven wrong" even though it has absoluetly nothing to do with WDW and everything to do with appeasing the Chinese government who is very displeased with the Walt Disney Company.

And who made Iger look like a little man... SAVE DISNEY PART TWO: IGER MUST GO!!!
 

WDW1974

Well-Known Member
You do have a crush on '74 don't you. He seems to dominate your every waking moment. Do you dream about him also.

Now ... that really does scare me!

Edit... Lee you are going to blow your undercover status as a Doom, and Gloomier if you are not careful.
Please pass that on to Martin as well.

I've met Lee. His blood courses with doom and gloom ... his smile turns pixie dust to salt. I can't begin to keep up with that ... but if I wish upon a star ... just maybe ...
 

EPCOT Explorer

New Member
The successful HoP refurb really has the Doom and Gloom Society (DAGS) worked into a frenzy I see. Perfect! :D

74 assumes that the sheriff reference is Iger. As usual he is wrong. 100% wrong. And it's not Lasseter either as someone thought. When it becomes so obvious that even the most die hard DAG can't deny there is a new Sheriff, I'll be happy to reveal the answer. Until then, rage on DAGS, it actually compliments you. :lol:
And you say you don't attack...Only defend...:rolleyes::lookaroun

:ROFLOL:

Evan, give him the interwebz! He won it from you! :lol:
Please, please...I gave it up already!:lol:
jt, you are the only one who alludes to a new sheriff.... You say it isn't Iger... and then won't say who... No one on the inside here even knows what you are talking about... If you think you know something, then say it... Reveal the identity... May make you credible, cause, seriously, you are just here annoying people now...
:D
Blueskydisney is just a blog and Honor Hunter just collects rumors and news from various others including Al Lutz, WDWMagic, laughingplace, jim hill, assosciated press, 3rd string fansites, and screamscape. He does not speak for the Walt Disney Company (Though I am sure they appricate the fact he gets the fanboys all excited dreaming of a future that may or may not happen!).

Oh and I love how you say all those that question you are in a frenzy because HOP is a good refurb (which most us said would probably end up being good in the first place). Yes HOP is a good refurb and so was the HM refurb so that means POOF all of Disney's problems are gone? Heck no. Your just trying to spin things as usual.

and Im going to assume that the "disney fans/DVCers/APers" are the "new sherif"? In which case you would still be wrong.

Oh and btw theres a very negative article underneath the Hong Kong article about your beloved 20k prequel thats going to save animal kingdom. I guess Bluesky has now joined the doom & gloom team?
It's a little bit more than that, I'm sure he has conections, but yeah, he can be a bit realistic. jt is much in the same...

jt...Not trying to wrest personal info from you, but do you have a connection to the site? It would make sense.
Quoted for truth, his BS about "THE NEW TWDC" is filled with endless allusions to Bob Iger begin "The New Sheriff" and now after so many posts he claims he isn't but won't tell us who he is? Does he even know what a Sheriff is anymore (and no it's not the guy who played Doctor Zhivago)?

Likely, Jt has becomes this sites new Master Troll whom we must deal with every 15 minutes.

But back to the main topic, so this tube show has been gone for six months but it's actually 3 according to some people here and Jt wants to spin the shows return after a breif closure as the return of EPCOT Center and we have the CEO of a giant media corproation to thank for that? Or some mysterious park ghost threatening VPs to do basic upkeep (I bet it's Travis in a cape!)

Doesn't your mom give you any chores to do around the house or do you just get off to pictures of Bob Iger all day?
:lol: So well said.
 

GothMickey

Active Member
Can't wait for the quote. By the way, what is ME up to these days?

http://blueskydisney.blogspot.com/

Ok, taken directly from the book.... Eisner's own words:

"Companies like Disney are always founded by creative entrepreneurs, but eventually the founder dies or gets pushed out or moves on to something else. Inevitably the businesspeople take over - the managers - and they focus on preserving the vision that made the company great in the first place. They don't have any creative ideas themselves and they end up surrounding themselves instead with analysts and accountants to try to control the creative people and cut costs. In the process, they discourage change and new initiatives and reinvention. In time, the company begins to ossify and atrophy and die. It's important to have financial parameters and never to bet the house, which is how we always protected Paramount. But in a creative business you also have to be willing to take chances and even to fail sometimes, because otherwise nothing innovative is ever going to happen. If you're only comfortable running a business by the numbers, I can understand that. But then you shouldn't get involved with a creatively driven company like Disney."

I bolded the key phrase there... Iger has surrounded himself with analysts and accountants, and NO creative minds... And look at what is happening to the company... Say what you want about Eisner, jt, but he knew what he was talking about... Iger is killing the brand... Rasulo is killing the parks... Dare I say the company is beginning to "ossify and atrophy" like Eisner said???
 

WDW1974

Well-Known Member
The successful HoP refurb really has the Doom and Gloom Society (DAGS) worked into a frenzy I see. Perfect! :D

74 assumes that the sheriff reference is Iger. As usual he is wrong. 100% wrong. And it's not Lasseter either as someone thought. When it becomes so obvious that even the most die hard DAG can't deny there is a new Sheriff, I'll be happy to reveal the answer. Until then, rage on DAGS, it actually compliments you. :lol:

You know the more you make it up as you go along, the more obvious it becomes.

Maybe the Sheriff is all in your head (with all that space he can open a Chrysler dealership too!)
 

WDW1974

Well-Known Member
I have to say, I find Blue Sky Disney to be a class act.

I enjoy reading it, although Honor's writing style grates on me after a while.

That said, his info is often very good.

In this case, though, I think JT is just quoting him because Honor is notorious for being an Eisner basher who keeps dreaming that the future for Disney is bright ... depending on ... (and then he qualifies things to render them mostly meaningless).

As to HKDL, the facts are Disney took the Chinese government for a ride when the resort was planned and the officials were basking in their regaining control of HK from the UK. Then, when Disney cut 60% of the park everyone was busy focused on other things ... be they Beijing getting the 2008 Olympics or 9/11 or SARS.

The point I'm driving at is Disney planned a vastly different park than what was built (I have the press kit from 1999 to prove it). Much like with DCA and DSP, they built a park on the cheap and thought they could put one over on the locals. We all know how that worked out.

Now ... Disney ponied up what may be a billion dollars when all is said and done in order to make HKDL what is should have been in 2006 (yeah I know it opened in 2005 ... the only park to open eight months ahead of schedule because so much got cut from the project it was ready well ahead of time). Yet for all its money, Disney still won't control the park. The HK SAR will.

So, I don't care whether it's Joanne Thunderbuns or Honor Hunter spouting the line ... Disney played a game of chicken with China and Mickey was the one who blinked and ran from the table.

That said, I don't care. I really was amazed at the potential of HKDL and the thought of it getting what it should have had is very tantalizing to me.

I hope the voodoo-Mansion is one of the attractions ... and I'd love to see the new movie-version Pirates attraction. But it doesn't matter.

I spoke to a friend with some ties to Disney and Pixar and we were talking about the idea that seems to be popular of a Frontierland going to HKDL. She commented that this may well be Tony Baxter's Gold Rush era version that has been blue skied and that one of the original attractions could be the Geyser Mountain that was created for DL a decade ago, but died officially when ToT went to DCA. All the development work is done and it could tie into a Big Thunder RR and even a raft ride (although part of me never wants to see a raft ride in any MK park, even though one was originally planned for HKDL).

Anyway, I do hope Disney announces plans tomorrow and doesn't just announce they have an official agreement on expansion and then we all wait six-nine months before anything gets announced to the public.
 

EPCOT Explorer

New Member
Sheriff theory::rolleyes::rolleyes::lol:

The only person in a "new Sherriff" position is Jim McPhee. :shrug: Special Events? I don't get it...

...Unless the 40th is a Event and McPhee has been "assigned" to building up everything for the 40th.

...And if that's how jt thinks, it's very, very interesting...:lol:
 

GothMickey

Active Member
Maybe the Magic Kingdom expansion CONFIRMED isn't much a rumor after all. They said MAGIC KINGDOM. Never said WHICH Magic Kingdom they were talking about. Now HKDL is getting an expansion to their Magic Kingdom. Hmmm.

Once again, WDW left in the cold. But, this is part of the new sheriff's master plan.
 

WDW1974

Well-Known Member
Ok, taken directly from the book.... Eisner's own words:

"Companies like Disney are always founded by creative entrepreneurs, but eventually the founder dies or gets pushed out or moves on to something else. Inevitably the businesspeople take over - the managers - and they focus on preserving the vision that made the company great in the first place. They don't have any creative ideas themselves and they end up surrounding themselves instead with analysts and accountants to try to control the creative people and cut costs. In the process, they discourage change and new initiatives and reinvention. In time, the company begins to ossify and atrophy and die. It's important to have financial parameters and never to bet the house, which is how we always protected Paramount. But in a creative business you also have to be willing to take chances and even to fail sometimes, because otherwise nothing innovative is ever going to happen. If you're only comfortable running a business by the numbers, I can understand that. But then you shouldn't get involved with a creatively driven company like Disney."

I bolded the key phrase there... Iger has surrounded himself with analysts and accountants, and NO creative minds... And look at what is happening to the company... Say what you want about Eisner, jt, but he knew what he was talking about... Iger is killing the brand... Rasulo is killing the parks... Dare I say the company is beginning to "ossify and atrophy" like Eisner said???


You have officially either made total sense OR have gone over to the Dark Side.

I say the latter because being evil is so much more fun than simply being rational!:drevil: (that is so kewl!)
 

GothMickey

Active Member
You have officially either made total sense OR have gone over to the Dark Side.

I say the latter because being evil is so much more fun than simply being rational!:drevil: (that is so kewl!)

If making sense means I switched to the Dark Side, then so be it. Maybe I can live up to being as evil as the character in my avatar looks.
 

WDW1974

Well-Known Member
Sheriff theory::rolleyes::rolleyes::lol:

The only person in a "new Sherriff" position is Jim McPhee. :shrug: Special Events? I don't get it...

...Unless the 40th is a Event and McPhee has been "assigned" to building up everything for the 40th.

...And if that's how jt thinks, it's very, very interesting...:lol:

I don't know what Jim MacPhee is doing these days. I'd love to hear he's working on a real 40th celebration at WDW and not coordinating fanboi events while Disney does nothing itself.

I'd even love it if Jim were simply working in a true quality control capacity, literally spending his days taking stock of everything Disney is doing wrong so it can be fixed.

But whether he's involved in either of those things, Jim isn't working on anything in China out of Orlando ... and he isn't working in Anaheim either.

So the Sheriff has to be at some higher level ... but that would assume the mythical creature exists. You know like a functioning yeti!
 

Phonedave

Well-Known Member
And I'm pretty sure I saw it in late March.



I admire your optimism, and indeed felt a bit of the same when I saw the diver in March.

But just a bit. I don't see enough yet to think this represents an "emphasizing", a "strategy", or an "event worthy of praise". If stuff like this keeps happening (reopen the imageworks, finish SSE, get TT's effects working, etc.), maybe it'll get to be a strategy and I'll praise it. For now,I'll just say I was glad to see it.

I am going to rank this a step above simple repairs.

To me, simple repairs would be to fix somthing that was broken, but does not required any additional money once it is fixed.

This required money to fix, and it requires money to continue to run. You need a CM, and a dive certified CM along with an air tank refill etc.

OK, so it's not much, but it is some baby steps in the right direction.

Rome was not built in a day, and EPCOT will not be restored overnight.

Maybe I am looking at this from a glass half full perspective, or maybe its just because my mojito is currently half empty :)

-dave
 

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