UNCgolf
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The original Rivers of Light was very good (or at least it was on the night we went). It was my second favorite night time show at WDW that trip behind Illuminations.
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Politics 28000 Layoffs coming to Disney's domestic theme parks - statement from Josh D'Amaro
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The original Rivers of Light was very good (or at least it was on the night we went). It was my second favorite night time show at WDW that trip behind Illuminations.
Sirwalterraleigh
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You didn’t need to qualify your post as “not rocket science”. It was self evident
Sirwalterraleigh
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And you’re aware that the scoreboard has heavily tilted to one side of this alleged “argument”
My advice: dump the run game and throw from here on out...it’s your only shot to catch up.
Brer Panther
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Disney has to lay off a million employees and yet they still have the money to retheme Splash Mountain?
Goofyernmost
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That is an observation that is best used when they actually do retheme Splash Mountain. They haven't yet and probably won't until business is back to usual.
Brer Panther
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Nope. It's apparently being fast-tracked.
Sirwalterraleigh
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That’s a strategic move for product and PR reasons longterm. It was never going to be canceled...maybe delayed...but happening.
And it was never a “choice” between paying employees and this...many of those cut jobs won’t be coming back.
Parker in NYC
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Get me a bromide and put some gin in it.And you’re aware that the scoreboard has heavily tilted to one side of this alleged “argument”
My advice: dump the run game and throw from here on out...it’s your only shot to catch up.
Goofyernmost
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Yes, I read that after I posted, but then the other argument kicks in. Does Disney stop expanding and refreshing the parks because of CM's that probably have a year or less in the company before they move on to a more promising career? We tend to look at things with a very tunneled vision. We see the immediate time and not the bigger picture of permanent asset enhancement. So the answer is still that money is earmarked and invested in keeping the park alive for the long haul, not throwing it away on staffing that isn't needed at the moment. I know that sounds harsh, but idealism is not always practical or workable. If the right investments are made now, the need for staffing will likely increase when this illness has passed. Real life is seldom pretty!
Gone are the days when we enjoyed Mulch Sweat and Shears on the Streets of America at DHS. We got to literally stand a few feet away from them while they performed. Everyone watching pretty much had a front row seat while standing around these talented guys.
Polkadotdress
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Not all who were laid off fit into this bracket. Look to Facebook to find many, many salaried Cast with 10-20-30 years of seniority, who lost their jobs.
Sirwalterraleigh
Premium Member
That’s who they wanted to get rid of...why pay more for anyone?
Check the NYSE...they are rewarded for moves like this
wannabeBelle
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I agree, but with social distancing, one of the theatres would be a better option and would give people in the park something more to do than to go from one ride to the next. I would definitely go to see them in this kind of venue. As far as seeing these guys, they do play in various bands in and around the Orlando Area, which is where I catch them now. Marie
Goofyernmost
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Yes, it seems cruel, but we do not know the entire story do we? I remember working as a temp. at IBM back about 25 years ago. The people that had been there for years sat on their collective butt, chatting about the weather, how drunk they got the night before and various other thing while the temps did all the work. They also were the ones that didn't follow protocol in the process of making chips for computers. They found short cuts and made IBM waste unknown amount of dollars on production that wasn't up to engineered standards because they felt they knew better than those that were trained to know what was needed. Anyway, up until that point IBM was never known to lay people off, ever, but when there was a sudden down turn, guess who was shown the door. The higher priced, unproductive long time employee's.
Now I'm not saying that is what this is about, but if I were a betting man, I would put money on the clean house syndrome. I don't know that for sure, but it might be a good item to keep in mind when we start saying how awful Disney is for letting them go. On top of that there really is no evidence that they will not be called back when needed. Unless, we are sitting in the board room all we are doing is guessing. It really doesn't matter because we will be outraged all the way to the gate when we are able to go back in full force because we are upset in way that will not translate into action. We will go back like good little boys and girls and never give a thought to any injustices even if they are proven injustices. We are a society of people that are righteously indignant until asked to actually put our money where our mouth is.
If you were a betting man you would have lost this one. Much of it was truly a randomizer. A department with 20 people needed to get down to 8. A computer chose the 12 that would go. Many folks with stellar records are gone while others that are mediocre at best have stayed. You seem to have old school values that just don't hold up in 21st century business.
JoeCamel
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21st century business would gather people's jackets and talk to their supervisors then make a data driven decision about who is most valuable to the company and who needs to see the door. They don't pull the names out of a hat.
Goofyernmost
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What did the computer base it's decision on? What data did it use to make that choice? What does the company pay management to do? Just run to the bank with their bonus checks? Was it just a lottery type thing? If so then sell my stock in Disney because it is headed for a major fall. I cannot imagine any company letting a computer randomly lay people off that they don't intend to call back at some point. That would put Disney in the World Book of Record as being the most poorly run company on the planet.
For the non-unionized roles, yes, this is essentially how it happened. This is how company layoffs are happening all over the country and world. iHeartMedia has just gone through major layoffs at their radio stations in the last few weeks. Folks with 15-25+ years of service that got top ratings and were the best and hardest workers in their respective markets are gone because their number came up. That's how it works these days. If you are a team leader you were given the names of the employees being laid off. It had NOTHING to do with performance. I can guarantee you that.
How much money they made vs how much money they brought in. Little to no data. Again, it came down to "this team of 20 needs to reduce to a team of 8. Let's generate the list and give it to the person that will be delivering the news"
Goofyernmost
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Could be true, for all I know, but it would be the absolute dumbest way to run a company in the history of companies.