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Politics 28000 Layoffs coming to Disney's domestic theme parks - statement from Josh D'Amaro
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Brer Oswald
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TrainsOfDisney
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Polkadotdress
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I believe many of them were together today on the streets of Washington...
EricsBiscuit
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I’m a logical human being who cares about the livelihoods of billions of people. I go out. Simple
Cant emphasize this enough! Both beautiful locomotives.Hey now... the Ward Kimball and the Roger Broggie are 2 VERY different locomotives!
trainplane3
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Take it for what it is:
From this mornings IAAPA conference with Josh.
From this mornings IAAPA conference with Josh.
wannabeBelle
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If this is correct I am thrilled. If. I will wait and see what comes about though and how soon this takes place. Marie
DisneyTransport
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Hahaha suree they will.
Dont get me wrong, i REALLY want ALL the entertainers and talent back, but, you know, 2020. Everythings out the window. Ill believe it when i see new hire contracts being sent out.
Plan on... as in once a vaccine has been in wide distribution by the Summer of '21?
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Goofyernmost
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It's easy to be suspicious of the Disney Management, but some things are more understandable than others. Not reinstating entertainment after it is safe to resume would be theme park suicide. It always made sense that they cancelled indefinitely due to the fact that it was and still is impossible to set a date of return since it is nature that currently is in control of that. All of Disney's money is not going to change that. It would be unfair to let the entertainment CM's just dangle there thinking the they may be called back in tomorrow when no one really knows when it will happen and in the meantime they get further and further in debt.. It is much kinder to leave it open ended so those people can possibly find other sources of income so they can continue to support themselves and their families. I know that a lot of people seem to think that Disney should continue to pay people that are not doing anything until the end of the problem happens. However, in the real world, Disney has been more then generous in supporting a lot of people for practically no reason since April. It is just unrealistic to think that anything else could happen without possibly endangering it's ability to bounce back quickly.
TrainsOfDisney
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That’s not what I think. I think many of the entertainers cut should be working right now, since the parks are still charging full price for admission. This is similar to what I see other major theme parks like Dollywood doing.
Citizens of Hollywood could be performing shows in one of the theaters or performing atmosphere from the roof tops ala dapper dans.
Piano players could be performing in Diamond Horseshoe and / or up on the train station balcony.
The grand orchestra could still perform at the studios.
I’m not suggesting Disney pays people to not work, and Disney wasn’t doing that anyways.
DisneyTransport
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I agree with a lot of what you said (like how they shouldn't keep CMs on furlough only to be let go... I was lucky (from a certain perspective) I knew I lost my job there early on, so I could start applying), but why is it not "safe" to have some of the entertainment that was let go? I believe some of the closures "due to safety concerns" was a cover-up to eliminate the labor costs (no doubt I'll have to defend that opinion).
and its not suicide until it actually happens. If people are still paying to get in... Disney will hold out as long as they can without the entertainment costs (though I do think they will return the majority of it (in one form or another) sometime in the future. Just not within the next year.... or two. )
drew81
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Don’t get me wrong, I want the Entertainment Department to be restored to its former glory. When you’ve gotten rid of years and years of experience, talent, backstage support etc you can’t just “replace” those skills and knowledge.
I think Josh means well and is trying to turn the focus away from Equity being decimated.
Remember when Disney said P.U.S.H. wasn’t being removed and like within days it was canned?
I think Josh means well and is trying to turn the focus away from Equity being decimated.
Remember when Disney said P.U.S.H. wasn’t being removed and like within days it was canned?
wannabeBelle
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Exactly, There was no reason to cut the Grand's Orchestra at the Studios. IMO they are needed very badly over there to break up the crowds going from one ride to the next. Also you have the Indiana Jones theatre open, Get Mulch, Sweat & Shears, space them 10 feet apart from each other and have them performing there or in the Fantasmic Theatre. I could see the Citizens of Hollywood performing in the Indy theatre as well. The Studios and Epcot need this as soon as possible. Marie
Goofyernmost
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Well, labor costs are legitimate until the full crowds are able to return, however, after that the lack of entertainment may well be a detriment to business. Yes, they are more expensive, but that has to be weighed against the income generated by having that entertainment. I don't have any idea what is going to happen, that is something that is secured within the walls of The Disney Company, however, as a retired businessman, I think that you can cut just so much before your product is no longer worth the high price. But, in this era of cults there is a good chance that they could set fire to main street and people would line up to pay $10.00 each for a S'more.
Giving the benefit of the doubt, if by this time next year the entertainment department was completely restored to what it looked like in February (... and I think we all know the odds of that happening), it still wouldn’t begin to address the declines in entertainment of the last decade.
I’m also guessing he’s not talking about things that have specifically been announced as not coming back... like Rivers of Light.
Goofyernmost
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From what I heard, and it's just hearsay, Rivers of Light sucked bad enough to cause the vacuum in space. Not everything deserves to be back. I'm not judging, just saying what I was told. I didn't see it myself.
There’s strong potential for a good show somewhere in there... even if the last iteration left much to be desired.