Which is exactly half of 5 years. Coincidence? I think not.
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2015: The year of the EPCOT makeover?
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Which is exactly half of 5 years. Coincidence? I think not.
Just like the protagonist of this song -
I sometimes wonder if the sands of time for Figgy are running looooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooow, running loooooooooooOOOOOOOOOOOOOW..........Has there been any new news about imagination or is it all still speculation? I would be happy if they would open the upstairs playground again, but it seems like that is naught but a dream.
sshindel
The Epcot Manifesto
Give it time. In a few more years, they will have been building the mine ride since the park was opened.
So long as the time increases in 2.5 year quanta. I would accept 7.5 years or 10 years or 25 years, but not 9 years. I'd be all over that jackass. Plus, we could just say, "It took 3 RTtBtMTUs (Real Time to Build the Mine Train Units)" as opposed to the cumbersome 7.5 years.
BrerJon
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Those aren't two different positions. Saying EPCOT Center is never coming back is just stating facts, like saying Pleasure Island is never coming back. It's not that closing them wasn't boneheaded and stupid, but realistically nothing can change what is done, however poorer the resort is for those decisions. Nobody is defending Disney for that, just saying that's how things are.
The more broader holding Disney to account is about influencing decisions going forward, and doing what we can to persuade them to make better decisions in the future than they did when they gutted Future World.
Welcome to the splitting fine semantic hairs for no purpose club. Of course, the old EPCOT isn't coming back. Everyone knows that. The criticism has the same goal as the more broad holding Disney to account criticism, just on a more specific level. Plus, you can't really be too broad. Things always get down to, "I liked the hub better when there were more trees," because without specificity you're just talking about how expensive the suits worn by the suits are.
JEANYLASER
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I really hope that to update of Universe of Energy and Imagination with a new sponsor.
Otterhead
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I wouldn't want the old EPCOT to come back. Much of it was terribly dated. The point of EPCOT is to be an ever-evolving world's fair; I don't mourn the loss of the World of Motion ride or the 80s electronics in CommuniCore. But that doesn't mean that we shouldn't hope for improvement: taking the best of the past and making it even more awesome for the future. "Imagination" is in dire need of improvement. I'll keep hoping the budgets make that possible.
sshindel
The Epcot Manifesto
sshindel
The Epcot Manifesto
Exactly. As much as I loved each attraction in old EPCOT, I do not want to see their return. I just want the park to return to what it once was, a park that had a purpose other than to sell booze and food. A park that was actually trying to make a difference.
The Empress Lilly
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EPCOT Center's never coming back. But then, EPCOT was never meant to remain unchanged for 35 years. It was designed to be changing forever. The park is still moving forward, and this we can influence, try to push the direction it moves in, back to EPCOT's lofty goals and ideas.
(oh, who are we kidding. Current Disney is an IP branding corp. EPCOT's going to be turned into Fantasy Celeb Land and it is only going to get worse. Soon we'll see Hunger Games in The Land or Jeopardy in Energy - although I admit these two examples are so singularly idiotic that even Disney will not stoop down to them)
(oh, who are we kidding. Current Disney is an IP branding corp. EPCOT's going to be turned into Fantasy Celeb Land and it is only going to get worse. Soon we'll see Hunger Games in The Land or Jeopardy in Energy - although I admit these two examples are so singularly idiotic that even Disney will not stoop down to them)
danlb_2000
Premium Member
Actually, the more I think about it, it did take 5 years to build. They started building in at MK in 2011 and it will probably open in Shanghai in 2016, so that's 5 years.
Otterhead
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EPCOT has always sold booze and food. Having restaurants (and alcohol) from around the world was always a feature of the park. I think the Food & Wine Fest can happily exist alongside Spaceship Earth.
On my most recent trip, I was wearing a shirt featuring all the old EPCOT icons. As I got on Soarin', a CM ran up and complimented my shirt, and then showed me his old-school The Land icon tattoo. As long as Epcot still has CM's like that who love what it was AND what it is, I'm not worried
sshindel
The Epcot Manifesto
EPCOT always sold food and booze, but it was not the focus, it was as a part of the host country experience.EPCOT has always sold booze and food. Having restaurants (and alcohol) from around the world was always a feature of the park. I think the Food & Wine Fest can happily exist alongside Spaceship Earth.
On my most recent trip, I was wearing a shirt featuring all the old EPCOT icons. As I got on Soarin', a CM ran up and complimented my shirt, and then showed me his old-school The Land icon tattoo. As long as Epcot still has CM's like that who love what it was AND what it is, I'm not worried
I wish I felt the same. On my last 2 trips I was wearing classic EPCOT shirts, one that was only given out to the original construction and imagineering team in 1982, the other a Kitchen Kabaret shirt I made myself. Not a single person noticed, and a DHS employee looked and said "what's with the broccoli on your shirt?".
Hiring CMs is one thing, and it's nice. Actually making attractions and experiences that hold to the ideals of the park is another.
Otterhead
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Sorry, I'm not seeing how "booze" is the focus of EPCOT at all. Outside of the Food & Wine Fest, I'm not seeing how it's any different than it's always been. And given that they used to devote a big chunk of CommuniCore to video "phones" specifically to let you make dining reservations, I'd say food has always been a huge part of Epcot.
They didn't exactly do that.
PhotoDave219
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I respect people for wanting high ideals and principles for their park, especially those who were actually alive and saw the park back in the day.
All things change.
PhotoDave219
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Those were outside guest relations, right?
ParksAndPixels
Well-Known Member
- In the Parks
- Yes
I'd gladly throw in a few bills to sponsor something else... It's not like ticket prices are going u..... Oh nvm