Figment2005
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For who? Disney is making money, what is embarrassing about it?
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2014 Mickey's Not So Scary Halloween Party dates and tickets now on sale
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lebeau
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That's one of those questions where it's hard to give an honest answer when you are not in that position. I can tell you that in my past I have turned down money before on matters of principle. It's not an exact comparison. I would like to think I would turn down short term profits in favor of a better customer experience which would pay out more in the long term. But if I were part of the current Disney corporate culture, I would probably need to conform or update my resume.
lebeau
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There are many ways to embarrass yourself while making money. I think that is exactly what Disney is doing with this barrage of upcharges.
Figment2005
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If Disney was holding a gun to everyone's head and saying "buy this or else" I can understand being upset, but they are not. It is a choice that you have to make regarding whether or not it is worth the money. I am absolutely defending Disney on this and I'm not afraid to admit it. There are people willing to pay for such event and Disney is giving them the opportunity. Those of you not buying, enjoy the party, but don't get ed just because you either don't want to or can't go to the other event.
Disney Villain
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As someone who goes to at least 2 MNSSHP a year, my bf and I are definitely going to pay for this package. We're huge Villains fans and it will be nice to do something different. Getting to have a different experience and meet my favorite characters, without the chaos, is worth the extra money. We had a great time at Villains Unleashed, and I'm willing to pay to get a different experience and not have to deal with crowds.
lebeau
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I'm not ed. I'm not going to the party. I have no dog in this fight. But way Disney is aggressively reaching into guests' pockets these days for any loose change that may be left leaves a bad taste in my mouth. It's an ugly trend that makes me worry for the future of the resort. Where does it end? Disney keeps pushing the line back. Eventually, they will reach a point where even you might say they have gone too far. But probably not.
In principle, I approve of upcharge events, in whatever form, that give to those paying the upcharge things that don't take away from what's available to those not paying the upcharge. Harambe Nights is a great example. You pay, you get a special show, food and a party. You don't pay, you get the same part you otherwise would have gotten with all the same opportunities (although if they close Africa early for it, that's a problem).
This one, I don't mind the special dessert party. It's in the castle, which you otherwise pay to eat in anyways. And by doing it late at night, after dinner, they aren't, I don't think, even taking away the opportunity to buy dinner there. What bugs me is the special viewing location, because that takes away from viewing that would otherwise be available to guests not paying the upcharge. It's minor perhaps, but that's the part I don't like.
I also don't like the hard ticket Halloween Party in the first place, because I think it causes MK to close earlier than it otherwise would close, thereby taking away from day guests. But that's water under the bridge, as the Halloween Party has been around for so long.
This one, I don't mind the special dessert party. It's in the castle, which you otherwise pay to eat in anyways. And by doing it late at night, after dinner, they aren't, I don't think, even taking away the opportunity to buy dinner there. What bugs me is the special viewing location, because that takes away from viewing that would otherwise be available to guests not paying the upcharge. It's minor perhaps, but that's the part I don't like.
I also don't like the hard ticket Halloween Party in the first place, because I think it causes MK to close earlier than it otherwise would close, thereby taking away from day guests. But that's water under the bridge, as the Halloween Party has been around for so long.
note2001
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Opinions are not always geared toward "it's all good" or "it's all bad". Most of us can see both points of view here and understand why Disney is offering this. It's about money and offering a product that will sell. I like watching the Disney stock continue to climb even on difficult days for wall street.
Is this action embarrassing to the company? Most definitely: Disney has been edging more and more into the Virgin Airline's "Charge for everything that you don't have to have" category for some time. IMHO, it's not a move in the right direction, socially speaking.
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Animaniac93-98
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All MK TS restaurants close at 7pm on party nights. CRT would be empty if the party wasn't happening.
Reserved or payed viewing of parades and fireworks are part of regular MK days.
The only real take away is the mix and mingle going from 4 to 3 shows a night.
lebeau
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I fixed that for you.
The first two are still take-aways. They are just take-aways we have all become accustomed to as Disney has systematically lowered everyone's expectations.
sxeensweet
Love a little Disney every day!! ;)
Yep we were willing to pay too for this added to our party night! I just called and booked ours for Halloween Night when we are going to the party already. Can't wait for this and a cool evening with the Villains!! Worth every penny for me and DH! Why get upset at Disney! They know people will go and willingly pay so why not! Me and DH have quite a few added events to our upcoming trip including the new Food and Wine premium package. So excited for all new events!
Animaniac93-98
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I was speaking within the context of this add-on, which hasn't affected much of the party offerings for everyone else.
Far worse were the cuts to Hallowishes and raising the ticket above $50/person. If there ever was a "straw that broke the horse's back" moment, that was it, not this upcharge event.
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Reserved viewing doesn't bother me, as all can take advantage of the opportunity. Paid viewing bothers me (although far less then, for example, the ability to pay for extra fastpasses would), including the Wishes dessert party, although I do take advantage of it.
lebeau
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I'm not looking at individual straws any more. They have piled up to the point where I can no longer see the poor horse on which they have been piled.
DisUniversal
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Televangelists get people to send them money...often people who have very little to give. People in Vegas are suckered in by "Double Your Paycheck" advertisements by some of the seedier casinos. Sometime's relieving fools of their money isn't the right thing to do...even if it is legal and doesn't involve a gun to ones head.
wannabeBelle
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I have been discussing this with a friend for some time now. It seems like the upcharge type of events are becoming more and more common. How long is it before the "average" guest starts to wonder what they are missing out on by not being able to/wanting to pay the upcharges. Does this make the guest feel that they are getting less of a quality product because they didn't pay the extra for a particular party/special event? I think if anything it can be perceived that this cheapens the "regular" park experience. Probably not a great idea to inundate the parks with that. Just my opinion!! Marie
And now WDW is being equated to televangelists, scam artists and casinos. Good to know....