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20,000 Demolition Coming April 19, 2004
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DarkMeasures
New Member
I agree, that I why I say storybook land.
Captain Hank
Well-Known Member
I heard a rumor to this effect, and took a picture of the lagoon during my trip last week. I'll try to post a picture, but I'm having some trouble. I'm working on it.
Just A Big Kid
Member
As much as it saddens me to hear this news about them taking it out finally, it makes more happy to know SOMETHING is coming to fill in the void. I'll all for something original "never done before" in that spot. The lagoon and cave took up a decent amount of room so we have room for something better than another Dumbo spin-off.
Let's work on a list of what movies currently DON'T have rides for them yet...
First one I can think of is Pinoccio(or how ever you spell it..LOL)
Anyone else???
Let's work on a list of what movies currently DON'T have rides for them yet...
First one I can think of is Pinoccio(or how ever you spell it..LOL)
Anyone else???
Does it not strike anyone as odd why they are doing it now (after 9 1/2 years) and not to build anything significant there? In the CM memo it states something like `for the pleasure of our guests and to demonstrate our commitment to improving the park` or words to that effect - in that case why didn`t they do it sooner, or wait until they had something to go there??
Having a visually pleasent lake for a few more years after all this time surely wouldn`t matter to most people if its not being replaced with anything important? Has something happened to the lagoon structurally to nesessitate this hastily announced project? Or am I just thinking too much of Horizons (RIP)??
Having a visually pleasent lake for a few more years after all this time surely wouldn`t matter to most people if its not being replaced with anything important? Has something happened to the lagoon structurally to nesessitate this hastily announced project? Or am I just thinking too much of Horizons (RIP)??
ToTBellHop
Well-Known Member
that's what I was thinking...it is going to cost a lot of money to demolish the lagoon, so I don't see any logic in doing that to build a meet and greet, unless, as you said, they need to remove the attraction before the Utilidoors are flooded.
Maybe because they are acutely aware of what kind of message is being sent by looking at the now defunct classic ride and knowing that everyone is looking at it remembering 20K and thinking how they closed it, whatever the reason may be? Either that or they want more retail space.
Personally, I think they probably still have several options going and havn't narrowed it down yet.
CTXRover
Well-Known Member
Seems like a lot of time and money to reclaim the land just for the fun of it. Although it isn't apparent now, there has to be a more substantial reason to finally reclaim this land after almost 10 years. I doubt it is an eyesore thing. If you didn't know there was a ride there, it was just a nice body of water. I don't know about the flooding utilidor thing, but I have my doubts. People love their meet and greets, but it seems like a lot of money and time just to expand the area for meet and greets.
I just have a feeling that they are finalizing what they want to do with that land among many, many possibilities, some of which have been touched on and others that probably we aren't thinking of. However, they know that when they finish those plans, that land first needs to be reclaimed. They could have done this a long time ago. To finally do it now may signal that something is perhaps getting final approval. It makes no sense to announce what EXACTLY will be done with the land now since it seems like its going to take 7 months just to get the land ready before any type of "real" construction can start.
Of course, all this could just be to plant more trees.
I just have a feeling that they are finalizing what they want to do with that land among many, many possibilities, some of which have been touched on and others that probably we aren't thinking of. However, they know that when they finish those plans, that land first needs to be reclaimed. They could have done this a long time ago. To finally do it now may signal that something is perhaps getting final approval. It makes no sense to announce what EXACTLY will be done with the land now since it seems like its going to take 7 months just to get the land ready before any type of "real" construction can start.
Of course, all this could just be to plant more trees.
Goofster
Member
Wow, and I thought this day would never come. I remember a couple of years ago when there was this massive series of articles on some website chroniclling the story of Fire Mountain and Bald (Villian) Mountain. Does anybody else remember that one site, maybe I'm the only one. Anyway, I suppose I can take a second to explain the difference between the Fire and Bald Mountains (not that either one has any hope of being built now).
Fire Mountain is a plan for a roller coaster based on Atlantis: The Lost Empire. The planned ride for Adventureland would be a giant Volcano, able to be seen easily from the Polynesian Resort. The exciting aspect of this ride was that the coaster track started below your train, but as you went through the "erruption" the track moved above your head and became a suspended coaster.
Bald Mountain, the Villian Mountain, was planned for the new Villian Land to be built on the 20K site and behind Fantasyland. The ride would be a huge flume ride, like Splash Mountain, where you would ride in those gondolas in the canal in the underworld that Hades rides in Hercules. The ride would probably be a lot like Fantasmic in a boat with big effects and a rising climax until.......surprise, the biggest flume drop on Disney property.
Anyway, I'm not claiming that I know anything about whats going on in the lagoon now, but thats what the plans were a good six or seven years ago. I know Fire Mountain was killed because of money and Atlantis flopping at the box office, but I'm not sure what ever happened to Bald Mountain.......
:drevil:
Ok, sorry if I'm getting off on a tangent, but for anybody that's interested in this stuff, I couldn't find the exact page i was thinking of, but steve's got a good compilation of news on the mountains from back in 1999 here http://www.wdwmagic.com/magic2.htm. Scroll down to the very bottom and thats where the news starts. Now I know everybody's probably thinking, what, no way, that was so long ago, thats not gonna happen, but we all do know the story of Eisner's son and the Splash Mountain model, do we not?
anyway, check it out, whether it's true or not, it's still interesting.
Fire Mountain is a plan for a roller coaster based on Atlantis: The Lost Empire. The planned ride for Adventureland would be a giant Volcano, able to be seen easily from the Polynesian Resort. The exciting aspect of this ride was that the coaster track started below your train, but as you went through the "erruption" the track moved above your head and became a suspended coaster.
Bald Mountain, the Villian Mountain, was planned for the new Villian Land to be built on the 20K site and behind Fantasyland. The ride would be a huge flume ride, like Splash Mountain, where you would ride in those gondolas in the canal in the underworld that Hades rides in Hercules. The ride would probably be a lot like Fantasmic in a boat with big effects and a rising climax until.......surprise, the biggest flume drop on Disney property.
Anyway, I'm not claiming that I know anything about whats going on in the lagoon now, but thats what the plans were a good six or seven years ago. I know Fire Mountain was killed because of money and Atlantis flopping at the box office, but I'm not sure what ever happened to Bald Mountain.......
:drevil:
Ok, sorry if I'm getting off on a tangent, but for anybody that's interested in this stuff, I couldn't find the exact page i was thinking of, but steve's got a good compilation of news on the mountains from back in 1999 here http://www.wdwmagic.com/magic2.htm. Scroll down to the very bottom and thats where the news starts. Now I know everybody's probably thinking, what, no way, that was so long ago, thats not gonna happen, but we all do know the story of Eisner's son and the Splash Mountain model, do we not?
anyway, check it out, whether it's true or not, it's still interesting.
MKT the Alice in Wondeland Maze sounds like a great idea-- even if temporary--- How about another play area/with water that works for the kids?? It is "SO" hot in the summer and MK does not have a water play area for the kids except Donald's Boat and that has not been working Maybe a live theater/show? The Story Book canal's at Disneyland is also something we miss here-- I guess time will tell- BUT! how much??? time :lol: :veryconfu
DarkMeasures
New Member
How about raise Villiage Haus also and expand Fantasyland where is swings back behind Small World and goes all the way to the Railroad tracks.
How fantasyland is currently used up, there is plenty of extra space. Especially if Toontown was moved behind the tracks...
How fantasyland is currently used up, there is plenty of extra space. Especially if Toontown was moved behind the tracks...