FireMountain
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How thematic are the displays there? I think we should make ours more thematic, more immersive. That would draw more people in to see the animals along with immersive environments.
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D Hulk
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Both parks seem to have SeaWorld-level immersion. Think that's the right call for an area where we can outdo the competition.
Chimelong in particular also goes all-in on scale, which seems to be a Chinese obsession right now (to display their economic might). They have big, big rockwork that's well-done, but then the ride elements are simply slapped over it. Animal displays are like at a zoo with obvious enclosures; the DAK approach of hiding those elements will serve us well.
Hong Kong Disneyland feels very small scale - though its castle will evolve and get larger.
spacemt354
Chili's
For animals and such, Disney parks have very strict regulations...depending on how many you'd have, they would need animal facilities and enough distance from loud noises and such.
When Pandora opened, animals in the Oasis (entrance gate) were getting frightened by the increased volume of traffic through the area, as well as later hours, so just something to consider for the placement of animals and the number of them.
Do we want this to be more like Animal Kingdom, or more like DisneySea?
When Pandora opened, animals in the Oasis (entrance gate) were getting frightened by the increased volume of traffic through the area, as well as later hours, so just something to consider for the placement of animals and the number of them.
Do we want this to be more like Animal Kingdom, or more like DisneySea?
FireMountain
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Personally, I want this to be more like DisneySea, or at least on the thematic level of DisneySea. But AK would help out a lot in fighting the competition, but the issues you brought up may lean us towards DisneySea.
spacemt354
Chili's
It wouldn't be an issue persay, just something to consider - maybe have a section dedicated to animals (like the Living Seas in Epcot) rather than the entire park. If you have a boardwalk for instance or a harbor setting, you wouldn't necessarily need animals to make it more immersive.
Also you'd have to have no plastic lids/straws
FireMountain
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Maybe between the myth and sea sections is a "mini-zoo" of sorts.It wouldn't be an issue persay, just something to consider - maybe have a section dedicated to animals (like the Living Seas in Epcot) rather than the entire park. If you have a boardwalk for instance or a harbor setting, you wouldn't necessarily need animals to make it more immersive.
Also you'd have to have no plastic lids/straws
spacemt354
Chili's
It could - though that might be a little congested - I would suggest putting the animals away from big E-tickets and noise, or at least walling it off.
The Maharajah Jungle Trek is probably the closest to 'noise' and really DAK does a great job at walling it off from attractions like Kali and Everest even though its in the same land
PerGron
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I’m a zookeeper so if adding backstage areas for the animals is a problem, I’m very familiar with how to design/build them (as I have many times built both backstage and onstage exhibits) and could make it very easily fit into the plans for any park if we want to spread it out amongst the park. I’m very familar with AK’s animal care policy as well.
spacemt354
Chili's
Also you wouldn't want to have a zoo just to say you have a zoo - it should serve a purpose and be a part of the natural environment, as if your transported to the animals' home...and not the animals moved to you.
Furthers the immersion of everything
Furthers the immersion of everything
spacemt354
Chili's
That's fantastic and would be extremely useful!
FireMountain
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How about in each continent-land, there is a section where you can see animals from each continent.
PerGron
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Like a maharajah or gorilla falls for each land? I could draft up a comprehensible list of all the species we could reasonably have in a walking trail style area that would fit the theme. That way we know what we’d be working with.
D Hulk
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So to reiterate, our park takes as its theme the entire world - specifically its culture, myth and natural beauty.
Think a good organizing principle and source of inspiration could be the UNESCO World Heritage Sites. They catalog the world's greatest natural sites, cultural/historical sites, and mixed sites.
Rather than dividing by continent like we're discussing, the World Heritage people have 5 "cultural region" categories: Africa, Arab States, Asia & the Pacific, Europe & North America, and Latin America & the Caribbean. (Following this, we could make 7 regions by splitting "North America" and "the Pacific AKA Oceania" into their own "lands.") This breakdown helps keep Aztec and Incan monuments (for example) grouped together even though they're on different continents.
Here's a list of all existing World Heritage Sites by country. Duplicating many of these would hopefully give us a very "Animal Kingdom meets EPCOT" flavor of edutainment with the potential for DisneySEA quality immersion.
Think a good organizing principle and source of inspiration could be the UNESCO World Heritage Sites. They catalog the world's greatest natural sites, cultural/historical sites, and mixed sites.
Rather than dividing by continent like we're discussing, the World Heritage people have 5 "cultural region" categories: Africa, Arab States, Asia & the Pacific, Europe & North America, and Latin America & the Caribbean. (Following this, we could make 7 regions by splitting "North America" and "the Pacific AKA Oceania" into their own "lands.") This breakdown helps keep Aztec and Incan monuments (for example) grouped together even though they're on different continents.
Here's a list of all existing World Heritage Sites by country. Duplicating many of these would hopefully give us a very "Animal Kingdom meets EPCOT" flavor of edutainment with the potential for DisneySEA quality immersion.
spacemt354
Chili's
That could definitely work much better
BlakeW39
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I think a 25/25 and 50% of our own elements seems cool in terms of DAK and DS.
I’m loving this idea to incorporate live animals into the park. It add to the thematic richness, plus it’s responsive to our Asian guests’ interests. A few questions on how we’ll implement this:
What sort of infrastructural/backstage elements do we need to create for the animals? I assume a large care facility like at Planet Watch, maybe in the land east of guest parking. What else is needed? (Full disclosure: never been to DAK.)
And how do we want to distinguish ourselves from competition like Ocean Park and Chimelong Ocean Kingdom? (The latter in Mainland China opened in 2014 and is the world’s 11th most visited already!) How do we improve on those parks’ animal displays?
Well, as far as animal care goes, that really depends upon which animals we decide to include. So which species and how many should determine the care.
I think that Disney's Animal Kingdom has already mapped out a great blueprint for this, in that instead of having obvious exhibits you have immersive exhibits that feel like they are park of the environment, and thus, the animals feel as if they are a part of the land and that gives said land a feeling of really being alive with a real ecosystem. So if we integrate the exhibits into the land like at DAK, making it feel like the animals are just there in their natural habitats, then I think our thematic quality will skyrocket.
I think those 7 continent based lands plus the entrance Harbor would make an amazing Theme Park! I really like the idea!So to reiterate, our park takes as its theme the entire world - specifically its culture, myth and natural beauty.
Think a good organizing principle and source of inspiration could be the UNESCO World Heritage Sites. They catalog the world's greatest natural sites, cultural/historical sites, and mixed sites.
Rather than dividing by continent like we're discussing, the World Heritage people have 5 "cultural region" categories: Africa, Arab States, Asia & the Pacific, Europe & North America, and Latin America & the Caribbean. (Following this, we could make 7 regions by splitting "North America" and "the Pacific AKA Oceania" into their own "lands.") This breakdown helps keep Aztec and Incan monuments (for example) grouped together even though they're on different continents.
Here's a list of all existing World Heritage Sites by country. Duplicating many of these would hopefully give us a very "Animal Kingdom meets EPCOT" flavor of edutainment with the potential for DisneySEA quality immersion.
spacemt354
Chili's
@SukaVayne33 welcome again! I read from your intro post that you enjoy Planet Coaster and RCT, I do as well! As do a lot of folks in the imagineer forum.
Would you be interested in helping us brainstorm Hong Kong Disneyland's 2nd theme park?
BlakeW39
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Totally agree!
Fantastic, and also props to you for working as a zookeeper
Bravo haha