“Something major” coming to DHS???

[Animaniac93-98]

The "Villain Land" concept has been armchair-imagineered for so long, it's grown to a Beastley Kingdomme-like mythos. Lovely material for a coffee table book, but impossible to meet expectations as a real place.

Universal's more or less building it right now. Hope it turns out good and we get the rumored boat ride some day.

 

[TheIceBaron]

I feel like whatever major expansion they add to DHS will be geared more to kids. I still think there isn’t enough for young ones to do at that park. So I don’t think they would put villains there.

Hate to say it but I could easily see them cloning the World of Frozen and just dump it where animation courtyard is and call it a day. I think the IP princesses print so much money that they think there should be a major princess (or equivalent like Encanto) presence in almost every park.

I think that’s the direction they are going for DHS but I will forgive them if they just give me a Star Wars dinner show with an animatronic Jabba the Hut.

 

[Indy_UK]

DHS certainly needs more kids rides. Ive said it 100 times now but just build out Toy Story land and stick in a couple of the play land rides like Army drop from Paris. Lower capacity but easy wins for the park. However, STOP with spinners as the only option.

 

[Club Cooloholic]

Dr. Facilier... conspicuously missing from TBA... would be prime to lead a "new" Villians land... couple him with Yzma/Kronk, Bowler Hat Guy, and Mother Gothel and I think you could have a solid group! (Though personally. I feel it would still be lacking without Malificent)

Maleficent used to be found doing random meet and greets at HS, sometimes near the old streets of New York, often around the Tower of Terror. Does she still appear anywhere there?

 

[Brer Panther]

Hate to say it but I could easily see them cloning the World of Frozen and just dump it where animation courtyard is and call it a day.

What would that mean for Frozen Ever After?

Actually, y'know what, they'd probably just keep it. I wouldn't put it past 'em to have two Frozen attractions in two different parks (heck, they already do).

 

[Zummi Gummi]

Maleficent used to be found doing random meet and greets at HS, sometimes near the old streets of New York, often around the Tower of Terror. Does she still appear anywhere there?

Wasn’t that part of the old Characterpalooza?

 

[ToTBellHop]

Universal's more or less building it right now. Hope it turns out good and we get the rumored boat ride some day.

If it doesn’t go well, I hope they can still return those monsters costumes to Spirit Halloween. There’s a new location located conveniently down the street.

 

[Club Cooloholic]

Wasn’t that part of the old Characterpalooza?

Not sure, I just know anytime we ran into her it was untimed

 

[mysto]

The "Villain Land" concept has been armchair-imagineered for so long, it's grown to a Beastley Kingdomme-like mythos. Lovely material for a coffee table book, but impossible to meet expectations as a real place.

If an Imagineer were to take this on there's a chance they would get NO credit for it. Half the internet would proclaim "that's my idea". That's no way for an ambitious Imagineer to put their stamp on a major project.

This may contribute more to the unattractiveness of this project than we realize.

 

[UNCgolf]

What would that mean for Frozen Ever After?

Actually, y'know what, they'd probably just keep it. I wouldn't put it past 'em to have two Frozen attractions in two different parks (heck, they already do).

I think they'd have to retheme Frozen Ever After because it and Frozen Journey are too similar -- they even have the exact same scene. Frozen Journey is obviously better, so FEA would stop being any kind of draw for EPCOT.

But I don't think they're going to put World of Frozen into DHS.

EDIT: Actually I guess World of Frozen would mean the upgraded version of Frozen Ever After rather than Frozen Journey, so even moreso that they'd have to get rid of EPCOT FEA.

 

[Animaniac93-98]

EDIT: Actually I guess World of Frozen would mean the upgraded version of Frozen Ever After rather than Frozen Journey, so even moreso that they'd have to get rid of EPCOT FEA.

Fine with me if it means Norway goes back to being Norway and we get a better Arendelle as a true expansion to DHS

 

[DisneyDean97]

AFAIK the working concept was a sort of anti-Fantasyland (in the style of "new" Fantasyland / Fantasyland Forest)... a dark, skewed village outpost where different characters had set up shop, with at least one castle looming in the distance.

This sounds like a perfect idea, and probably the only way a villain land would work.

 

[James Alucobond]

Fine with me if it means Norway goes back to being Norway and we get a better Arendelle as a true expansion to DHS

I’m sure they’re super eager to revert a ride that constantly has 60min+ wait times to one that was frequently a walk-on.

 

[Animaniac93-98]

I’m sure they’re super eager to revert a ride that constantly has 60min+ wait times to one that was frequently a walk-on.

A misinterpretation of Maelstom's history and my post.

Wanting the pavilion to be about Norway again is not the same as saying I want the exact same ride/movie from 1988.

 

[UNCgolf]

Fine with me if it means Norway goes back to being Norway and we get a better Arendelle as a true expansion to DHS

I said the same thing elsewhere. I'd love if they brought Frozen Journey to the US parks just because it would mean they'd have to get rid of Frozen Ever After.

 

[James Alucobond]

A misinterpretation of Maelstom's history and my post.

Wanting the pavilion to be about Norway again is not the same as saying I want the exact same ride/movie from 1988.

I liked Maelstrom better too, but it’s just not happening. The ride will not be Norway-focused unless some seismic changes occur. I am also unsure how it’s a misrepresentation of its history; I remember walking on it over and over and over again even in the 90s.

 

[mickEblu]

I said the same thing elsewhere. I'd love if they brought Frozen Journey to the US parks just because it would mean they'd have to get rid of Frozen Ever After.

No it wouldn’t.

 

[Sirwalterraleigh]

It's big, and the number is safe. They haven't pulled back funding.

Somewhere, a group of execs are pacing around a conference room table... dropping beans on project printouts.

There are only so many beans.

It’s just a marker number…trust it at your peril

If the low WDIs are full in on that being a guarantee…they’re setting themselves to look stupid as usual

wasn't the final number closer to 17B for WDW....to be split up between 4 parks and resorts.... and not necessarily attractions..... So honestly we could be looking at a very small number for actual attraction expansion and development.....

It’s also not guaranteed to go to anything people crave…could be mostly just update and infrastructure stuff

 

[Sirwalterraleigh]

I liked Maelstrom better too, but it’s just not happening. The ride will not be Norway-focused unless some seismic changes occur. I am also unsure how it’s a misrepresentation of its history; I remember walking on it over and over and over again even in the 90s.

Because there were slow days then when the parks were built for growth

Hasn’t been that way for awhile

 

[James Alucobond]

Because there were slow days then when the parks were built for growth

Hasn’t been that way for awhile

There are still walk-on rides at EPCOT. If FEA were still the Maelstrom (or something different of about the same level with a strict Norway focus), it would not draw the wait times of FEA even with today's crowds.