“Something major” coming to DHS???

PREMiERdrum

Well-Known Member
How does Villains fit into Hollywood Studios other than it being aimed more at an older audience?

They once had a villains event and it was mobbed ergo.......

Because Hollywood Studios is now their "this has to go somewhere" park.
There were champions of the MK project who forced a quick pivot in an attempt to save the concept.

Hopefully the art makes it into books in a decade or so. Maybe a D+ exclusive doc?
 

MisterPenguin

President of Animal Kingdom
Premium Member
So what you’re saying is Villains is dead in either park?

From what I can tell, the outlook isn't good.


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Tha Realest

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Original Poster
From what I can tell, the outlook isn't good.
Well, they tactically retreated from dinosaurs altogether after the guys across town had a much stronger grasp on the marketable IP. Maybe they figure villains - what with Universal Monsters, HHN, and the new Vegas thing - is going to be a core competency of Universal.
 

UNCgolf

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It’s amazing how the idea that got the literal largest response outside of Star Wars at a D23 - something that would be an absolute home run if they did it correctly - keeps getting tabled/killed.

Iger did mention wanting to use current IP (and specifically said that no IP or old IP wasn't a worthwhile investment), and a Villains land would almost by necessity rely on older IP. Disney doesn't really have many (any?) memorable villains that would work well in a villains land from this century; they'd likely need to go Renaissance and/or older. I guess the remakes help to an extent, but they're generally not leveraging the live action version of films in the parks (thankfully, IMO).

I doubt that's the main reason it's not happening, but it might be a factor.
 

Zummi Gummi

Pioneering the Universe Within!
Iger did mention wanting to use current IP (and specifically said that no IP or old IP wasn't a worthwhile investment), and a Villains land would almost by necessity rely on older IP. Disney doesn't really have many (any?) memorable villains that would work well in a villains land from this century; they'd likely need to go Renaissance and/or older. I guess the remakes help to an extent, but they're generally not leveraging the live action version of films in the parks (thankfully, IMO).

I doubt that's the main reason it's not happening, but it might be a factor.

This is the problem, if Bob's mandate is to be obeyed. Who would be featured? The Grandmother from Encanto? When was the last time a Disney or Pixar film had a great, unabashed villain? King Candy? Lotso? Mother Goethel?

The great villains (Maleficent, the Queen, Jafar, Ursula, Lady Tremaine, Cruella, Scar, etc.) probably mean nothing to Bob because their IP's aren't relevant enough.

It's short-sighted, because their villain events have all been extremely popular- the Villains Sinister Soiree at DHS, the Villains event at Royal Table during MNSSHP, and of course the infamous Villains Night at DHS that caused traffic backups resort-wide and parking routed to Epcot. But I guess they're content to have those villains be "sighted" during MNSSHP.
 

MisterPenguin

President of Animal Kingdom
Premium Member
This is the problem, if Bob's mandate is to be obeyed. Who would be featured? The Grandmother from Encanto? When was the last time a Disney or Pixar film had a great, unabashed villain? King Candy? Lotso? Mother Goethel?

The great villains (Maleficent, the Queen, Jafar, Ursula, Lady Tremaine, Cruella, Scar, etc.) probably mean nothing to Bob because their IP's aren't relevant enough.

It's short-sighted, because their villain events have all been extremely popular- the Villains Sinister Soiree at DHS, the Villains event at Royal Table during MNSSHP, and of course the infamous Villains Night at DHS that caused traffic backups resort-wide and parking routed to Epcot. But I guess they're content to have those villains be "sighted" during MNSSHP.
Given Inside Out 2 and Turning Red, the next big monster will be: Puberty.

And who says Disney parks aren't for teens?
 

Bocabear

Well-Known Member
The Disney Villains would be extremely popular full stop. Seriously there is absolutely NO RISK to building a villains land. They just invested a billion dollars in a Star Wars land that is about a galaxy at war... with an evil empire where people make weapons and the major action in the rides is to avoid getting shot or put in prison. THe Disney Villains at least are quirky and whimsical and as someone else pointed out, sing. We would also get unbelievable eye candy with the different settings, and the variety of experiences could be really interesting... 4 year-olds would probably not get ROTR or the other Star Wars attraction either.....and Adults and kids over toddler age would love a mysterious Villain's Lair....
 

doctornick

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This is the problem, if Bob's mandate is to be obeyed. Who would be featured? The Grandmother from Encanto? When was the last time a Disney or Pixar film had a great, unabashed villain? King Candy? Lotso? Mother Goethel?

The great villains (Maleficent, the Queen, Jafar, Ursula, Lady Tremaine, Cruella, Scar, etc.) probably mean nothing to Bob because their IP's aren't relevant enough.

It's short-sighted, because their villain events have all been extremely popular- the Villains Sinister Soiree at DHS, the Villains event at Royal Table during MNSSHP, and of course the infamous Villains Night at DHS that caused traffic backups resort-wide and parking routed to Epcot. But I guess they're content to have those villains be "sighted" during MNSSHP.

I tend to agree with it being short sighted but I’d also suggest that limited offerings may not be the best gauge of the popularity and sustainability of a product. When something is rare, you have a concentrated push to experience/buy.
 

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