EPCOT Remy's Ratatouille Adventure coming to Epcot

Missing20K

Missing20K

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I just couldn’t get past the obviously plastic props. If just that portion had been executed more successfully I would have a much better opinion of the attraction. But, at least for me, it was highly incongruous and immediately broke the illusion. Stainless steel should look like stainless steel, not like medium gloss gray-silver paint, irrespective of the scale differential between object and observer. A plastic sausage looks plastic even when you’re moving past it and it’s 10 feet above your head.

If they had to clone a DSP ride it should have been Crush’s Coaster.
 
DonaldDoleWhip

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Missing20K said:
I just couldn’t get past the obviously plastic props. If just that portion had been executed more successfully I would have a much better opinion of the attraction. But, at least for me, it was highly incongruous and immediately broke the illusion. Stainless steel should look like stainless steel, not like medium gloss gray-silver paint, irrespective of the scale differential between object and observer. A plastic sausage looks plastic even when you’re moving past it and it’s 10 feet above your head.

If they had to clone a DSP ride it should have been Crush’s Coaster.
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Completely agreed. The props aren't convincing, and there aren't even that many of them. Neither are the screens.

Also, I loved Crush's Coaster! Getting on it was rough, due to frequent downtime (maybe that situation has improved after 7 years?), but it's such a fun take on the wild mouse coaster. I wouldn't be opposed to seeing it in The Seas one day, though there might not be room.
 
DonaldDoleWhip

DonaldDoleWhip

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UNCgolf said:
I think that's an unfairly harsh assessment. There's a lot more going on in NRJ than there is in Pirates before the first drop.
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It's more like if you removed the first drop, added DL's extended cave scenes, reworked the score to organically crescendo as you move along, incorporated some neat screen-based effects, and finally topped things off with the greatest pirate AA ever built.

I also feel NRJ has its redeeming qualities. More than Rat, in my opinion.
 
UNCgolf

UNCgolf

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DonaldDoleWhip said:
It's more like if you removed the first drop, added DL's extended cave scenes, reworked the score to organically crescendo as you move along, incorporated some neat screen-based effects, and finally topped things off with the greatest pirate AA ever built.

I also feel NRJ has its redeeming qualities. More than Rat, in my opinion.
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I think NRJ has the best use of screens of any ride I've been on. They add some depth and motion to the scenes but you don't ever feel like you're just sitting and watching something happen, because they're a complement to the detailed physical sets instead of the main focus.

It's exactly the right way to use screens IMO.

I think Rise uses them similarly, but I haven't been on Rise yet.
 
DonaldDoleWhip

DonaldDoleWhip

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UNCgolf said:
I think NRJ has the best use of screens of any ride I've been on. They add some depth and motion to the scenes but you don't ever feel like you're just sitting and watching something happen, because they're a complement to the detailed physical sets instead of the main focus.

It's exactly the right way to use screens IMO.

I think Rise uses them similarly, but I haven't been on Rise yet.
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Completely agreed. One of the bigger knocks I see toward NRJ is that it doesn't have a narrative, but does every ride need one? The premise of the attraction is you're boarding a river cruise during peaceful times and happen to observe a Na'vi celebration. It's perfectly fine that nothing goes wrong during the journey.

Same thing with Kilimanjaro Safaris - the poaching plot every single time was incredibly contrived, and I'm so happy they eventually decided to remove it. Sometimes it's just nice to go on a natural excursion and celebrate what you see.

Really all NRJ could have used is more AAs and props, but what it does is far more convincing than Ratatouille.
 
UNCgolf

UNCgolf

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DonaldDoleWhip said:
Same thing with Kilimanjaro Safaris - the poaching plot every single time was incredibly contrived, and I'm so happy they eventually decided to remove it. Sometimes it's just nice to go on a natural excursion and celebrate what you see.
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I wasn't happy that they were removing the poaching plot because I liked the teaching/awareness aspect, but in retrospect I was very wrong.

It absolutely improved the ride. The poaching plot made all the animals seem like set dressing; once it was removed they became the stars. You're able to focus on seeing the animals and maybe learn a bit about them as you go.

DonaldDoleWhip said:
Completely agreed. One of the bigger knocks I see toward NRJ is that it doesn't have a narrative, but does every ride need one? The premise of the attraction is you're boarding a river cruise during peaceful times and happen to observe a Na'vi celebration. It's perfectly fine that nothing goes wrong during the journey.
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Especially since people don't ever mention that as an issue with a ride like Frozen Ever After. Sure, FEA has a plot (come to a party!), but it's about as simple a plot as you could possibly imagine and it's almost irrelevant to the ride. It's certainly not really telling you a story.
 
The Empress Lilly

The Empress Lilly

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marni1971 said:
I don’t. The sense of disappointment you get rounding the bend, waiting for the ride to really begin, and see unload is huge.

I even rode it again to double check.

But we digress.
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That sums up my Tron experience. Wow, great start! Wow, neat screen effects! Whooo, let's see what will happen next, I'm now so ready for a great ride and...wait, wut, unload!?
 
UNCgolf

UNCgolf

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marni1971 said:
I don’t. The sense of disappointment you get rounding the bend, waiting for the ride to really begin, and see unload is huge.

I even rode it again to double check.

But we digress.
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I think what's there is quite good and better than almost anything else Disney has built in the past 15 years. It would be nice if it was longer and had more AAs, but isn't that somewhat the difference between a C ticket and an E ticket?

We'll definitely have to agree to disagree on this, though, since I think Rat looks tremendously disappointing even just compared to NRJ and you're a fan of Rat!
 
UNCgolf

UNCgolf

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marni1971 said:
I don’t. The sense of disappointment you get rounding the bend, waiting for the ride to really begin, and see unload is huge.

I even rode it again to double check.

But we digress.
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You've probably said this at some point before, but I'm curious as to your thoughts on Frozen Ever After?

Ignoring that it replaced Maelstrom and doesn't belong in EPCOT, that is. Just thoughts on the ride itself.
 
The Empress Lilly

The Empress Lilly

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DonaldDoleWhip said:
It seems the consensus here is that everyone will be disappointed by at least one of the newest attractions!

Really liked Tron myself.
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I loved Tron, that's the problem! ;) It's a really good first half of a ride.

Rat is good and will be a success. 🐀

FEA sucks. A ride that's just a protracted M&G with Elsa singing Let It Go, because that's what the princess wants to see on her holiday and not Phoenicians or dinosaurs or astronauts or other difficult boy stuff. On top of which Elsa is one of those weird projection face AAs that make her look like Michael Jackson, but then after he died.

NRJ is mixed, it's got atmosphere but lacks a certain something.
 

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